New WikiLeaks Series Details CIA's 'Specialized Unit' Dedicated to Creating iOS Exploits

[Raid]

Dear CIA:

Please get working on exploiting the Apple TV 3; I really want to jailbreak mine!

Yours

<Well let's face it you know everybody's name, so putting here would be redundant>

 

[Col4bin]

'But you should care......even if you have nothing to hide, do you really want the government to know everything about you? I may not matter now, but in 10 years you want something and a ping comes back.....denying you whatever you wanted because they kept tabs on you previously. Privacy is and should be a fundamental right in our society. It should be well preserved.

Again, I don't care. Come look at me and be bored to tears. I have nothing to hide.
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The point isn't that I'm personally being surveilled.

@the underlined: Historically the CIA has not been allow to operate domestically.

And we need to take this report with a grain of salt, here. The report is stating that the CIA is "allegedly" employing experts to crack iOS. (Not that we'd ever get the truth of it either...)

 

[NT1440]

And we need to take this report with a grain of salt, here. The report is stating that the CIA is "allegedly" employing experts to crack iOS. (Not that we'd ever get the truth of it either...)

I'm not sure what this means?

"Report"....are you referring to the documents themselves?

And of course they're employing people to try to crack into devices, that's been a whole division of their for decades.

 

[Col4bin]

I always like this quote when someone says that

"Privacy? I don't have anything to hide."

"Over the last 16 months, as I've debated this issue around the world, every single time somebody has said to me, "I don't really worry about invasions of privacy because I don't have anything to hide." I always say the same thing to them. I get out a pen, I write down my email address. I say, "Here's my email address. What I want you to do when you get home is email me the passwords to all of your email accounts, not just the nice, respectable work one in your name, but all of them, because I want to be able to just troll through what it is you're doing online, read what I want to read and publish whatever I find interesting. After all, if you're not a bad person, if you're doing nothing wrong, you should have nothing to hide." Not a single person has taken me up on that offer."

So assuming the CIA has cracked iOS, you're suggesting that some government official is stealing citizens' private information and recklessly letting hackers have complete and unfettered access to it? Kind of like what has happened to Yahoo email accounts recently not to mention the myriad of retailers who have been hacked and customers personal information stolen.
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heh, you probably should be less concerned with being spied on and more concerned with being controlled by an outside entity. (which you most certainly are)

humans are very easily manipulated though that's a tough one to admit/realize to oneself.

your idea of 'reality' is so far off base from a real reality that it's not even funny.
'reality' is just mainly what you've been told is real. that's all.

for the record, i'm not trying to say i'm personally immune to this behavioral/thought control. i play the game just like the rest of us. just saying i might be a tad bit more aware of it than many.

What??? I don't even... I think your tin foil hat is a little crooked.
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I'm not sure what this means?

"Report"....are you referring to the documents themselves?

And of course they're employing people to try to crack into devices, that's been a whole division of their for decades.

And tell me who's iPhone and iPads would the US government most likely want to gain access too?

 

[NT1440]

And tell me who's iPhone and iPads would the US government most likely want to gain access too?

Not mine or yours, we're not high value targets. That doesn't make not disclosing an exploit (if the CIA found it, anyone else can too) acceptable. That's compromising businesses everywhere to state-sponsored hacking.

 

[dk001]

So assuming the CIA has cracked iOS, you're suggesting that some government official is stealing citizens' private information and recklessly letting hackers have complete and unfettered access to it? Kind of like what has happened to Yahoo email accounts recently not to mention the myriad of retailers who have been hacked and customers personal information stolen.
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What??? I don't even... I think your tin foil hat is a little crooked.

This is not my saying. Do you know who Glenn Greenwald is?
I just happen to intellectually agree with his viewpoint on privacy and security. This was from his talk in Oct 014 and is as relevant today as it was then.

 

[JamesPDX]

On a theme of the various recent protests, I wonder what "A Day Without Internet/Cell Phones" would look like.
Only symbolic, yes. But irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

 

[dk001]

On a theme of the various recent protests, I wonder what "A Day Without Internet/Cell Phones" would look like.
Only symbolic, yes. But irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Had an outage last year after a bad storm. Systems and electric were out for 18-24 hours.
Kids freaked. I grabbed something to drink and grabbed a good book. Fired up the grill.
Teased the kids over this one. OMG!!! No PS4!!! No Cell!!! No laptop!!! No tablet!!!
LMAO!!!

 

[Tech198]

Deserves a quote, I don't know why people are taking this so lightly. I also can't understand why people are taking a partisan approach to this issue...

Because there are two sides to the story..

People will give up when there 'exception' to say a law, that "must be done, otherwise u'd be commuting a federal crime"

Well, my argument is always, "If you choose which yo wanna protect, then that is not privacy... Privacy is plain and simple, You do not give it to *anyone*

I also believe many say these those types of quotes regarding privacy, but they do give all info when it cannot be tracked back to them... Again, I would say,, that is sill not privacy.. because u just gave it up. hiding behind a VPN is not a valid reason to give up anything.. as its still public eventually.

It's really not that complicated..that we make it out to be...

 

[JamesPDX]

Because there are two sides to the story..

People will give up when there 'exception' to say a law, that "must be done, otherwise u'd be commuting a federal crime"

Well, my argument is always, "If you choose which yo wanna protect, then that is not privacy... Privacy is plain and simple, You do not give it to *anyone*

I also believe many say these those types of quotes regarding privacy, but they do give all info when it cannot be tracked back to them... Again, I would say,, that is sill not privacy.. because u just gave it up. hiding behind a VPN is not a valid reason to give up anything.. as its still public eventually.

It's really not that complicated..that we make it out to be...

This one's for you: https://www.lawanswers.com.au/blog/data-retention-laws-australia/

 

[malexandria]

....Have you read anything on this? No.

If you had you'd realize that many of the documents in the leak come from 2015-2016.

no, because I don't care. It's like telling me a dog bit a man. I didn't care when Snowden revealed the documents and I don't care now. People are niave and stupid if they didn't know this has been going on for over a decade. Especially once 9/11 happened.

 

[flat five]

What??? I don't even... I think your tin foil hat is a little crooked.

heh, right, i need a tin-foil hat because i think humans are very easily controlled/manipulated.. ??

meanwhile, 84% of humans (like almost 6 BILLION people) are affiliated with a religion.. these religions have the most unbelievable and far fetched stories in them and most people believe these crazy stories simply because they were told to believe them.

if you don't think that's a great example of how easily controlled we are then i don't know what else to say.

 

[JamesPDX]

heh, right, i need a tin-foil hat because i think humans are very easily controlled/manipulated.. ??

meanwhile, 84% of humans (like almost 6 BILLION people) are affiliated with a religion.. these religions have the most unbelievable and far fetched stories in them and most people believe these crazy stories simply because they were told to believe them.

if you don't think that's a great example of how easily controlled we are then i don't know what else to say.

Tell the truth and run!

 

[Col4bin]

heh, right, i need a tin-foil hat because i think humans are very easily controlled/manipulated.. ??

meanwhile, 84% of humans (like almost 6 BILLION people) are affiliated with a religion.. these religions have the most unbelievable and far fetched stories in them and most people believe these crazy stories simply because they were told to believe them.

if you don't think that's a great example of how easily controlled we are then i don't know what else to say.

Uh huh.