New XPS 15 absolutely crushes MBP

[grennis]

Kaby lake CPU
32GB RAM
GTX 1050 GPU
4K Touchscreen

Looks like MBP badly needs a refresh or this could get embarrassing quick

 

[mag2001]

Kaby lake CPU
32GB RAM
GTX 1050 GPU
4K Touchscreen

Looks like MBP badly needs a refresh or this could get embarrassing quick

Still a windows machine!

 

[xmonkey]

Wonder what battery life you'd get if you spec it like that...

 

[tubeexperience]

Still a windows machine!

care to elaborate?

 

[goobot]

Comparing low tier kabylake to high tier skylake is pointless. The skylake chip is better.

 

[Tenashus1]

Competition is beginning to rip past Apple at this point. They have a great opportunity to get a leg up on Apple since Apple is so sluggish in the innovation department these days. It's just not the same company anymore.

 

[tubeexperience]

Comparing low tier kabylake to high tier skylake is pointless. The skylake chip is better.

And what are you using for this "comparison"?

 

[goobot]

And what are you using for this "comparison"?

Performance.

 

[Sanpete]

The XPS is and will remain a good value, but those who only look at the superficial specs will be more impressed than those who look at the details. The XPS already offered 32 GB RAM and a 4K touchscreen, so the main new parts are the processors. The Kaby Lake isn't a great leap from the Skylake in most respects, should save some power. Even with the larger battery, though, don't expect great battery life with DDR4 RAM, especially if you get 32 GB. The GPU looks like a solid jump. The MBP's ports will remain more powerful, with better external monitor support.

I think Macs will survive.

 

[tubeexperience]

Performance.

Just speculation here, but a Kaby Lake with higher clock speed probably have better "performance" than Skylake with lower clock speed.

 

[dk808]

Still a windows machine!

This.

And even worse, its a Dell

 

[goobot]

Just speculation here, but a Kaby Lake with higher clock speed probably have better "performance" than Skylake with lower clock speed.

There are currently only low wattage kaby lake processors which can't compete with high wattage skylake.

 

[WhiteWhaleHolyGrail]

Dell will have forums dedicated to the new XPS 15 where people will be ripping it to shreds due to its own unique teething problems and the odd poster will say - 'I'm returning it for the TBMBP as Dell have lost it'. The grass is always greener on the other side folks.

I personally prefer the Mac's far superior craftsmanship, OS, keyboard, balanced display, speakers and solid performance across all levels to Dell's offering. But that's just me...

 

[iKnowMr.Jobs]

Any reduction in power cunsumption from going to Kaby Lake from Skylake (which isn't much to begin yet, but admittedly, is worth mentioning) is undoubtedly offset by that GPU. More so with the 4K display.

 

[skids929]

care to elaborate?

Here we go!!!!! Prepare to lower your IQ everyone!

 

[mac_in_tosh]

Still a windows machine!

I'm afraid the days of knee-jerk dismissal of Windows are past us.

 

[tubeexperience]

There are currently only low wattage kaby lake processors which can't compete with high wattage skylake.

I wouldn't consider the Intel Core i7-7700HQ which is has a 45W TDP to be low wattage.
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This.

And even worse, its a Dell

Dell has been making very decent laptops as of the late.

 

[Howard2k]

Don't include any meaningful details at all. Good job.

 

[deany]

Does W10 still take ages to shut down like W7, while installing the often weekly updates?
and which is your preferred anti virus software, I find all of them a pain to be honest.

 

[tubeexperience]

Does W10 still take ages to shut down like W7, while installing the often weekly updates?
and which is your preferred anti virus software, I find all of them a pain to be honest.

It depends. I suppose if you have a 5400RPM hard drive.

 

[Savor]

I personally prefer the Mac's far superior craftsmanship, OS, keyboard, balanced display, speakers and solid performance across all levels to Dell's offering. But that's just me...

Apple makes the best computers, period. Software and hardware.

I was a huge phone fanboy for 12 years now. Everything related with phone news, I checked on it almost every day. Now all I care for are decent laptops. Why? Because the mobile industry is saturated and I can always pick up a sub-$100 Android that can do 90% on what any flagship can do except take better pictures or have a 2K display. I am more excited about the latest Mac refreshes than the latest rumor with iPhones.

i know people say their phone is their most beloved gadget. Everyone needs a phone as it can save your life. My first laptop was my used device over my phones from 2006-2010 before the smartphone phenomenon in this decade. Whatever laptop I enjoy using will be my favorite device because its online capabilities is far superior on it and media consumption seems more comfortable thanks to the screen not needing a kickstand, loud external speaker, and apps like VLC player to play any format. And Macs aren't easily replaced with cheaper alternatives compared to smartphones.

Give me a (post-Haswell era) MacBook any day over the latest Android flagship, iPhone 7 and SE, and iPad. Anytime I walk into an Apple Store, I look at the design of each Mac like the iMac and MacBook. I avoid looking at the iOS devices because I see so many people looking at smaller screens on a daily basis. Nothing new with them. But Macs get rarely updated which makes refresh announcement draw more anticipation.

iOS, been there, done that.
OS X for life.

Please give us an iPad Pro that can run OS X.

 

[deany]

It depends. I suppose if you have a 5400RPM hard drive.

We have SSD still seems to take ages .pvm to be fair.

 

[fs454]

I'm afraid the days of knee-jerk dismissal of Windows are past us.

Windows is not an acceptable replacement for an avid user of macOS. It just isn't. I use it daily for gaming and a couple select apps via boot camp, and it's just not there no matter how much you want it to be - the little things will anger the crap out of anyone used to the way a Mac works. I put up with it for IT purposes, but Adobe apps kind of suck on W10 and are horribly optimized, every single laptop trackpad and its corresponding drivers are terrible and scary bad compared to the trackpad in macOS, etc.

 

[rklinkhammer]

Does W10 still take ages to shut down like W7, while installing the often weekly updates?
and which is your preferred anti virus software, I find all of them a pain to be honest.

I have just got my 3rd dell laptop in 6 months at work due to poor quality, and hardware issues. Certainly would no longer buy dell on my dime.

 

[Howard2k]

I have just got my 3rd dell laptop in 6 months at work due to poor quality, and hardware issues. Certainly would no longer buy dell on my dime.

But it crushes the MBPro.

-crushes it-