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New Yorkers, we have little chance of getting an iPad 2 from Apple store anytime soon
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They are re-selling right in front of thestore at a hefty premium. That sir is called scalping and is illegal in New York City. So it's not thier right at all to break the law.
Depends if they are on Apple's property, private or public property. If they're breaking NY scalping/peddling laws, I'm sure the cops would've been involved by this point.
The cops have bigger problems to deal with. If they went after scalpers, the jails would fill to capacity. Too bad too, something needs to be done.
So you are saying it's illegal, it's happening in mass numbers and the cops are refusing to do anything about it?!
I doubt they would arrest everyone. More like serve them citations.
The only "problem" here is that we live in a capitalist free market economy. To me this is a very good thing.
Here is my take on it. I didn't want to double post.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1120975/
Here is my take on it. I didn't want to double post.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1120975/
I think the word "scalping" only refers to tickets. Certainly the laws only refer to tickets. Please cite a New York law that makes this behavior illegal. You won't find one, because it's not illegal.
So you are saying it's illegal, it's happening in mass numbers and the cops are refusing to do anything about it?!
I doubt they would arrest everyone. More like serve them citations.
5th ave store is filled with cops outside the plaza. They knew what the Asians are doing and don't do ****. Heck they are "dealing" with cops just literally feets from them.
Yeah lets make the cops come over and validate what every person in line is going to do with their purchase. That seems like the very best use of a NYC cop.
So I'm curious..are all scalpers "Asian" or are all "Asians" scalpers? Just want to make sure the cops know who to focus their racial profiling on.
And I hope that once they get done they will let us know...so we can ALL get the ipad model that we want. Problem solved!
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Well technically smuggling goods and subverting a country's tariff laws are both illegal, but they're certainly not the jurisdiction of city cops. They're just there to keep things orderly.
I was referring specifically to those who are reselling in the city. Smuggling iPads out of the country is a difficult thing to prove. While I'm sure it's happening, unless you catch someone in the act, at the border say, it would seem to me to be damn near impossible to prove intent.
I think everyone just needs to face up to the fact that this is the 'new normal' (I hate that phrase) when it comes to Apple product launches. Unless Apple decides to change it's policies or reinstitute pre-orders, be prepared for more of this.
djkinetic,
no one is lumpsumping a particular group. have you BEEN to the 5th ave store and not use your reasoning by pictures? im filipino too, but thats irrelevant. what IS was that when i was at the 5th Ave store they day after launch, there were ALOT of chinese people in the lines trying to push forward. I was patiently biting my tongue from saying anything because you had people who kept walking to the front of the line on the side where it was roped off who were yelling at the groups of chinese people. now what they were saying i have no clue, but i did see one NON-asian sneak into the line. I was a lucky one in snagging a 32gb wifi. when i went up to the counter, I was told there were only 4 left.
I dont think this is a racist thread but honestly, what can anyone do about it?
If I may ask, out of my own curiousity.
How many- or how, do these folks hop on a flight to china w/ x many iPads? Is there not limits in customs? The flight alone must be pretty expensive assuming the individual flying need the ticket in their name.
You get what I am saying. How many can actually legally be taken onboard by one person?
How many- or how, do these folks hop on a flight to china w/ x many iPads? Is there not limits in customs? The flight alone must be pretty expensive assuming the individual flying need the ticket in their name.
You get what I am saying. How many can actually legally be taken onboard by one person?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/technology/23iphone.html
It's about the iPhone, but it details a bit of the problem.
Thanks for the link. I thought I had read somewhere that people were actually flying to China with these; must have been mistaken.
There you go!
HTH is this allowed? Anyone with experience in air travel or security want to chime in on this?
TSA has no problems frisking young children and old ladies.. But if you are Chinese and have a suitcase full of illegal grey market goods.. Come on through
I've been on the road for some DJ gigs since a day before launch. Given the load-in/soundcheck times and the actual gigs, I haven't been able to grab an iPad while on the road like I wanted to. When I'm back home in NY for a few days next week, I plan on arriving at roughly 4 a.m. Standing for 6+ hours is quite normal for my profession. So I'll deal.
Good buddy is also coming with me, just to document the experience for his blog. If people are in line ahead of me, so be it, they got there first. If someone tries to cut however, they'll be hearing from me while he holds my place in line. I'm not about to get disrespected like that. Fair is fair. First come, first served is fair. Skipping the line because of some feeling of entitlement is NOT ok. I'm a bit surprised by how many people have said they were skipped in line. After getting up early to stand on line in the cold, there's no way in hell I'm letting that happen. I WILL be bringing a video camera to take a video of the line upon entering as proof of who was there first.
BTW, I know for a fact that not everyone doing this is Asian. Obviously, the ringleader is and as a result has sought assistance from the Asian community, but I personally know of more than one person who was approached. One of my friends lives in Chinatown, and his landlord asked if he wanted to make some extra cash by waiting. When he responded "I'm not even Asian", his landlord said "they don't care. You blend in better anyway". Let's not use something as silly as a gadget as a reason to condone racism guys. We're all better than that.
Good buddy is also coming with me, just to document the experience for his blog. If people are in line ahead of me, so be it, they got there first. If someone tries to cut however, they'll be hearing from me while he holds my place in line. I'm not about to get disrespected like that. Fair is fair. First come, first served is fair. Skipping the line because of some feeling of entitlement is NOT ok. I'm a bit surprised by how many people have said they were skipped in line. After getting up early to stand on line in the cold, there's no way in hell I'm letting that happen. I WILL be bringing a video camera to take a video of the line upon entering as proof of who was there first.
BTW, I know for a fact that not everyone doing this is Asian. Obviously, the ringleader is and as a result has sought assistance from the Asian community, but I personally know of more than one person who was approached. One of my friends lives in Chinatown, and his landlord asked if he wanted to make some extra cash by waiting. When he responded "I'm not even Asian", his landlord said "they don't care. You blend in better anyway". Let's not use something as silly as a gadget as a reason to condone racism guys. We're all better than that.