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NEWS: 4.1 Users Wanting To Unlock Are $CREWED

What I don't understand is why apple updates the baseband if it's at&t's doing to have a locked iPhone. Is it in their contract to update it to prevent unlocks? What foreseeable benefits from apples side comes from changing the baseband.

I doubt 4.1 baseband will be unlocked any time soon. It was a struggle for planetbeing and he lost tons of sleep and weeks figuring it out.
 
thadoggfather said:
What I don't understand is why apple updates the baseband if it's at&t's doing to have a locked iPhone. Is it in their contract to update it to prevent unlocks? What foreseeable benefits from apples side comes from changing the baseband.

I doubt 4.1 baseband will be unlocked any time soon. It was a struggle for planetbeing and he lost tons of sleep and weeks figuring it out.
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At least not until a new baseband exploit is discovered. Then, the teams will begin the long process to see if an unlock tool can be developed from the exploit.
 
thadoggfather said:
What I don't understand is why apple updates the baseband if it's at&t's doing to have a locked iPhone. Is it in their contract to update it to prevent unlocks? What foreseeable benefits from apples side comes from changing the baseband.
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No one here knows for certain what's in the Apple/ATT contract but it's reasonable to assume Apple is responsible for closing any security holes in the baseband as well as correcting any errors in the code. So, the only 'benefit' to Apple is fulfilling a contract obligation.
 
krUnIzZlE said:
And how about the people that are buying new iPhones that come with iOS 4.1. What you think bout that???? Take your time answering the question. Dont worry.
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You know the answer to your own question and obviously I was only talking about people that have the ability to update their FW. Is there no common sense on this forum? And Mike needing a citation from the ATT document before he believes the issue of ATT not unlocking out of contract iPhones? It's not anecdotal if it's been a problem forever without a single exception...that's better proof than some document.
 
Kayan said:
You know the answer to your own question and obviously I was only talking about people that have the ability to update their FW. Is there no common sense on this forum? And Mike needing a citation from the ATT document before he believes the issue of ATT not unlocking out of contract iPhones? It's not anecdotal if it's been a problem forever without a single exception...that's better proof than some document.
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Ironic you'd decry the lack of common sense on this forum then not display any with your post. The authoritative source for whether any phone, not just an iPhone, will be unlocked is the carrier, not a poster, or posters, on an Internet forum who claim to have asked and been denied. That's like concluding because you've never seen a black swan and no one has ever posted they've seen a black swan that none exist.
 
Wow Mr. Poet, glad my "decrying" touched you (in a sore spot). It's not that I haven't seen "the black swan" (okay Shakespeare?), it's that NOBODY in the world, ever, has seen your swan. And countless individuals (not only me, my unread friend) that have posted their experience where they have fulfilled their contract well beyond 2 years and goes to request a code, gets shut down by ATT...That's not anecdotal, thats experience. It's how it is.
To each his own for interpreting reality, but I trust the actual practices of ATT more than a claim.
 
Applejuiced said:
Common Mike, you can do better than that.
You really dont know that nobody was able to officially unlock their US iphone thru AT&T for the past 4 years.
There's even a class action suit about this I believe against AT&T and Apple.



Thats false.
I have requested and received unlock codes for many phones that only AT&T sold in the US plenty of times. Even only a few months into the contract.
They will unlock all cellphones they sell but the iphone.
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Kayan said:
Was just about to inform Mr. Gates of the same thing.
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Are you two sure that they had exclusivity agreements on those handsets, that it wasn't just happenstance that only AT&T sold them?
 
Bill Gates said:
Are you two sure that they had exclusivity agreements on those handsets, that it wasn't just happenstance that only AT&T sold them?
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Im sure that only AT&T sold them in the US but not positive if they had an exclusive contract or not.
What other cellphones are you talking about that AT&T will never unlock like the iphone?
 
Dev team(s) may as well wait to try and unlock 4.2. 4.1 jailbreak isn't even out yet and in a month 4.2 will be out.
 
tehreflex said:
Dev team(s) may as well wait to try and unlock 4.2. 4.1 jailbreak isn't even out yet and in a month 4.2 will be out.
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they already said that the hard work is the same, 4.1 JB may jailbreake 4.2 with just minor changes, but the dirty hard work at the bootrom level would be the same, that's why they are hard at work and it will be released when it's ready.
 
This may be a silly question, but I wonder about the possibility of have a U.S. phone unlocked in Europe. Is the baseband service provider specific? In other words, if someone in Europe on o2 or whatever providers you use, which allows unlocking, restores their phone via iTunes are you getting a provider specific baseband?
 
lavrishevo said:
This may be a silly question, but I wonder about the possibility of have a U.S. phone unlocked in Europe. Is the baseband service provider specific? In other words, if someone in Europe on o2 or whatever providers you use, which allows unlocking, restores their phone via iTunes are you getting a provider specific baseband?
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No, there is no provider specific baseband.
The iphones are either locked to one provider or factory unlocked.
If your carrier provides an official unlock no matter how many times you restore or update it will never lock again and it will accept every sim you put in.
 
Applejuiced said:
No, there is no provider specific baseband.
The iphones are either locked to one provider or factory unlocked.
If your carrier provides an official unlock no matter how many times you restore or update it will never lock again and it will accept every sim you put in.
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Does this mean it is possible for U.S. AT&T locked iPhone to be unlocked via a European provider?
 
lavrishevo said:
Does this mean it is possible for U.S. AT&T locked iPhone to be unlocked via a European provider?
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Not Possible, if the baseband was lock to an specific carrier, only that carrier can provide the unlocking codes for that device.

An Unlock device can work on any compatible network


lol Ignus beat me to it and backed it up with some hard data :eek::eek:


ignus graius said:
EDIT: DISREGARD. INFO HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN POSTED
I'm assuming this hasn't been posted before, but if a mobile phone is subsidized by and locked to a specific carrier, then it's that specific carrier that provides an official unlock code to unlock the phone's baseband. AT&T in the U.S. doesn't provide unlock codes for iPhone users.

Sources:
Apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937
AT&T: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?solutionId=61097&t=solutionTab
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lavrishevo said:
Does this mean it is possible for U.S. AT&T locked iPhone to be unlocked via a European provider?
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No, like mentioned above by maturola.
Only AT&T for example can request an unlock on a US device.
You cant bring a USA iphone to Vodafone Italy for example and have them officially unlock it. They can only unlock phones that they sold locked to their network only.
 
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