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Methinks you're overestimating the "how far the thumb can reach" criteria for determining what consumers want in a phone. You and a few others...

I think you're overestimating how many iPhone users want a large screen. I would know 20 or so friends of family members who are not upgrading to the 6 for the same reason I'm not.

Neither of us have data here, only personal observations.
 
What about a second camera?

You mean, a second camera to capture 3D ? Or for what use ?

Yes, 3D could be clever, this means they don't go into a meaningless data sheet war (more pixels pleases the marketing department and makes engineers who know about optical laws cringe) but instead they add features without downgrading the product. The only problem with 3D is that it's easy to capture but not that easy to show.
 
Ok. Haven't seen a source for that but people keep bringing up the 5C as an utter failure like it's some stain and embarrassment on Apple. Context people, context.

It was the Q1 2014 earnings call, i think. I'm not calling it a huge failure but their so called market analysis was off the mark.
 
I think you're overestimating how many iPhone users want a large screen. I would know 20 or so friends of family members who are not upgrading to the 6 for the same reason I'm not.

Neither of us have data here, only personal observations.

I'm not overestimating anything. I haven't proposed to know the exact wants and needs of any market segment. I'm refuting those that seem to think they do. Your anecdotal experience does not equal reality as any statistics professor will tell you.

As far as anecdotes go, I was pretty convinced that the 4" phone was the ideal size for me but once I started to play around with the 4.7" I liked it so much better that there is no way you could get me to go down to a 4" again, even with the same specs.
 
I really hope the 12MP camera happens. While 8 is more than sufficient for great photos, I want to be able to shoot 4K video.
I'm shooting 2k 2048x1152 (16x9) with the filmic pro app. I think 8 mp is enough for 4k. I think the vizzywig app you can shoot 4k
 
As it happens it is a phone that is widely used in the corporate world. It successfully filled the demand of employees asking for an Apple option while keeping the costs to the organization low.

Yes, exactly. The 5c is very popular in corporations. It's also popular with phone companies as a low cost entry point into the Apple world.
Moreover, it's a phone that didn't cost much to Apple. It's made of cheap plastic and recycled internals from the previous products. There is little R&D there, the materials are cheaper than usual...
 
I wonder what feature(s) would Apple put into the 6S/6S+ that would make the other Android OEMs put into their devices? Last time, Siri led to Google Now through Google. In 2013, Touch ID led to other OEMs using fingerprint scanners as a mainstream function.

As for 2014, I say it differently since it's not a "S" model. That led to Apple Pay, which Samsung saw as a threat, so they made Samsung Pay with the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge.
 
Better low-light, concert photos

What I really want to see is the camera's low-light ability improve. As it stands, the iPhone takes really crappy concert photos. No desire to carry another camera when my iPhone should be up to the task. I've not seen Apple mention this issue, at least where I've been reading.

Anyone else know?
 
...and hopefully UK Apple Pay to make the wait worth it for me.

An iPhone 6S or 6S Plus that will hopefully last me for as long as possible.
 
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion so quick. Apple has not published any profitability information on the 5c. As it happens it is a phone that is widely used in the corporate world. It successfully filled the demand of employees asking for an Apple option while keeping the costs to the organization low.

I work as a management consultant and several Fortune 500 companies that I have visited over the past year use them as the default employee phone.

And sure market research is not always accurate and sure also Apple makes mistakes. Many would argue that their entry into large screen phones was (too) late. But the entire market movement is away from small phones. Even low-tier budget phones (Android and Microsoft) now increasingly appear in larger sizes. This says a lot about the addressable market for 4"phones. It is becoming smaller and as the entire industry moves away it becomes ever more expensive to produce a 4"phone.

Android users may prefer larger screens, but as I've said, the iPhone was the choice for a small but premium phone. The results of removing that option won't be seen immediately though.

People also supposedly moved away from large screen tablets, then back again and now apparently small tablets are back out, yet Apple isn't discontinuing the iPad Mini because more people buy the full sized iPad.

It truly doesn't hurt anyone to produce a 3rd iPhone model, they would sell. I can almost guarantee that. The 4 inch screen sold when they had it available, and it would again.

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I'm not overestimating anything. I haven't proposed to know the exact wants and needs of any market segment. I'm refuting those that seem to think they do. Your anecdotal experience does not equal reality as any statistics professor will tell you.

As far as anecdotes go, I was pretty convinced that the 4" phone was the ideal size for me but once I started to play around with the 4.7" I liked it so much better that there is no way you could get me to go down to a 4" again, even with the same specs.

And I never said my evidence is reality, but you seem to have been saying yours is - I said directly after giving my observations, that neither of us had evidence of anything, seeing as Apple has never put the 4,4.7 and 5.5 inch iPhones on a level playing field and let consumers choose.
 
I'm not overestimating anything. I haven't proposed to know the exact wants and needs of any market segment. I'm refuting those that seem to think they do. Your anecdotal experience does not equal reality as any statistics professor will tell you.

As far as anecdotes go, I was pretty convinced that the 4" phone was the ideal size for me but once I started to play around with the 4.7" I liked it so much better that there is no way you could get me to go down to a 4" again, even with the same specs.

And I never said my evidence is reality, but you seem to have been saying yours is - I said directly after giving my observations, that neither of us had evidence of anything, seeing as Apple has never put the 4,4.7 and 5.5 inch iPhones on a level playing field and let consumers choose.


Just as there is no way you could make me go to a 4.7 inch phone. Its just too cumbersome and provides no real advantage for me.
 
No this is false. With jailbreak can the current iPhone the features from LG Knock

How is any of what I said false? I didn't say you couldn't do this on iPhone with jailbreak, I explained what gestures were on Android.
 
Is 12 MP enough to shoot 4K? I feel like that's the only real advantage the S6 offers over the iPhone 6/6+ camera. Unless you want the quick camera shortcut function (nifty in of itself, but not groundbreaking), or some of the editing tools.
 
It truly doesn't hurt anyone to produce a 3rd iPhone model, they would sell. I can almost guarantee that. The 4 inch screen sold when they had it available, and it would again.

Not trying to attack you, but it seems you lack some background in economics. There is a world of data that directly contradicts that this is a viable market for the foreseeable future. A bit of knowledge of production capacity would show you that it is not a matter of "just producing some 4"phones" but a real matter of opportunity cost. Apple had a choice: Churn out as much iPhone 6 out as they can because their market research showed that consumers will gobble them up (as they do. There is ample evidence for this) and sacrifice the lowe profitability 4"production capacity. OR keep some less profitable 4" production lines active while having even more difficulty keeping up with iPhone 6 demand (remember the usual complaints about initial stock of the new models?).

In addition you ignore that as a market becomes smaller, the product becomes more expensive to produce while the price of the product goes down. That is a very rapid decrease in profitability and we all know how much Apple likes its profitability to be in excess of somewhere around 27%.

You keep saying that there is a market. Well, there might be, but it is shrinking and all indicators show that 4" consumers are jumping on larger screens and not looking back (and this is fact). True some people will remain with tiny hands, but it is not like Apple needs to produce a product for every minute group of people that demands something.
 
What I really want to see is the camera's low-light ability improve. As it stands, the iPhone takes really crappy concert photos. No desire to carry another camera when my iPhone should be up to the task. I've not seen Apple mention this issue, at least where I've been reading.

Anyone else know?

Low light situations prove challenging for even the most expensive, technologically advanced cameras. A dark concert theater seems to be about a worse case scenario for low light. What you're wanting in a phone that doubles as a camera and fits in your pocket is probably technologically impossible--at least in today's world.
 
I'm holding off until Apple adds inductive (or whatever method they come up with) charging to their phones. I'm tired of plugging in a cable all the time.

Inductive charging erodes the battery like nothing else. It's a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. I for one hope Apple never goes this route.

On top of that, if you're too lazy to plug in a charging cable, you may want to rethink some of your life choices.
 
What the hell is Rose Gold ?. ??

I guess using multiple lenses to get a sharper image can only go so far at the same MP. afterwards, u have to increase.

...or perhaps its just to keep up to date with everyone else *shrugs*
 
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