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Personally, I don't care what it looks like, as long as it provides some more expansion. I'd prefer a second hard drive bay, more RAM slots, and a removable GPU. But I don't think that's even in the realm of possibility, so I guess I'm stuck pricing Mac Pros that have more power than I'll ever need.

That's the sad truth if I ever heard it.

-Clive
 
Guys,

"Striking new industrial design" ! = evolution of current design.

...provides some more expansion. I'd prefer a second hard drive bay, more RAM slots, and a removable GPU.

Maybe it will be a mini-tower!

(Seriously, an all-in-one mini-tower with the screen mounted to the system box - so that the screen hides most of the box.)
 
ACD are considered Pro and the Mac Mini hasn't been redesigned in years. But look at it's cousin the Apple TV, it uses one and is even smaller than the mini.

What makes the ACD pro? Both apple.com and the retail stores show the mini hooked up to a 20".

I think the Mini still has a bigger external PS because it uses more power than an Apple TV would? If apple could make every power supply internal, I'm all for it!
 
Oh please! There is an equal and opposite mentality that says "xyz feature is useful to me, why doesn't everybody use it?". The same argument applies.

Touchscreens are a bit of a niche interest at the moment, and I don't see the iMac using one. Yes, the can be useful, but only for a small proportion of computer users.

Why:confused:
 
Guys,

"Striking new industrial design" ! = evolution of current design.

All this talk about thinner, chin-less iMacs doesn't make sense. That's not a new design; if anything, that's the way the current iMacs should have been released. It's just a revision of the current one. I get the feeling we're going to see an equally drastic shift from the current Macs to the new ones like we saw during the G3 to G4 transition.

Well the iMac has always been about "Where did the computer go?" from day one. The lampshade G4 iMac sure was wicked original, and I'd be more than happy to have a revival of that idea. Problem is, you can't really fit much hardware into the base and Apple has gone away from all round shapes to square shapes with rounded edges one one axis and sharp edges on the othe axis. This design is already there on pretty much all Apple products except maybe the power bricks, mice and keyboard and servers.

I can imagine something similar to the current iMac design with a longer chin and no base as such, the whole thing would hold itself and stand on a slight angle. think of the original iMac (that also had no stand), but with a TFT display. the back would go straight down, slightly cylindrical in shape and the front would be on a light angle. I'll try to photoshop somthing up.
 
What makes the ACD pro? Both apple.com and the retail stores show the mini hooked up to a 20".

I think the Mini still has a bigger external PS because it uses more power than an Apple TV would? If apple could make every power supply internal, I'm all for it!

The Mini is hooked up to a cinema display because Apple doesn't make consumer displays anymore. I don't think too many of the Mini owners can afford to spend $700 on a monitor.
 
That's the sad truth if I ever heard it.

-Clive

Ditto. I think 2 HD bays is minimum. I mean, what do most people do now if their computer has only 1 drive bay, and want to switch that drive a few months or a year down the road? How can they transfer all the old drive's info to the new one, without buying an enclosure of some sort?
 
Exactly - you hit the nail on the head. I cannot imagine why I could ever want a touchscreen on a computer - neither desktop nor notebook

Have you ever used one?
You might be suprised by how fast and intuitive they are.
I'm not saying that they are right for everyone.....but some people prefer keyboard shortcuts etc to mousing around......others prefer a track ball.
It is possible to have a computer that caters to both camps.

I do agree that this technology should not add unneccesary cost or complication to the system...but it would be an interesting move.
As for the dirty finger brigade out there...your habits should not impact the rest of us who like to clean up after our KFC..what up? you got gravy on yer keyboard:p
 
Touchscreens are a bit of a niche interest at the moment, and I don't see the iMac using one. Yes, the can be useful, but only for a small proportion of computer users.

Well, the problem with your argument is that you are looking at how things are right now. We had touchscreen in cell-phones before iPhone. They were pretty ho-hum. And still iPhone was something really, really different. And really, really great.

Yes, we have computers right now that have touchscreens. And they are pretty ho-hum. What makes you think that IF Apple releases an iMac with touchscreen it will be as boring as current touchscreen-machines are? Was the iPhone as ho-hum as the multitude of touchscreen-phones the preceded it?

And what to do with the touchscreen? Well, maybe Apple is moving in to a whole new UI-paradigm? Maybe they feel that the multitouch-tech in the iPhone could be used in general purpose computers as well? From the top of my head, that touchscreen would be very useful in apps like GarageBand, Logic, Reason, iPhoto, Aperture, Cubase and so forth.

Just because touchscreens are a niche right now, does not mean that it NEEDS to be niche, espesially on Macs.
 
Could this solve the dirty-fingers-on-screen problem? :rolleyes:

One large sheet of aluminium which folds under itself at the bottom. The profile looks like the letter 'L' on the mac keyboard.

Sorry about the handwriting :eek:

 
Maybe it will be a mini-tower!

(Seriously, an all-in-one mini-tower with the screen mounted to the system box - so that the screen hides most of the box.)

As much as I want a Mini-Tower, somehow I see a thicker iMac as a step backwards. A mini-tower will have to be it's own entity.

Before Apple became as popular as it is, its userbase were divided into three groups: students, professional, and prosumers. No one bought a Mac unless they knew what they were doing with it. Now Apple has completely forsaken the Prosumer market, forcing them to buy more or less hardware than needed. This is where I am, and it ticks me off.

-Clive
 
I can imagine something similar to the current iMac design with a longer chin and no base as such, the whole thing would hold itself and stand on a slight angle. think of the original iMac (that also had no stand), but with a TFT display. the back would go straight down, slightly cylindrical in shape and the front would be on a light angle. I'll try to photoshop somthing up.

I think the new iMac is going to be Triangle Shaped :D

The iMac Pyramid! They'll call it the Oasis. It'll come in brown and feature marketing along the lines of the ancient Egyptian obsession with cats.

Oh and it'll wirelessly Zap songs to the pathetic Zune so Microsoft doesn't sue them for monopolistic practices! LOL

Have you ever used one?
You might be suprised by how fast and intuitive they are.

Yep, they aren't faster and the applications need to be designed around big fat fingers! The gestures they showed off on the iPhone are kinda nice, but if you notice, the keypad for data entry took the whole screen. Touch isn't especially accurate, which is partly why in wasn't more popular. Ever try holding your arm up and extended for more than 5 minutes at a time? Try it for a few days and you'll look like Popeye!

The purpose built 5 and 6 foot displays you see on youtube are pretty cool, but they are just that "purpose built".

We have handhelds that are touch sensitive, but most folks use a special pen or stylus (which big Steve admitted to hating during the keynote). The reason they use them is because their fingers hurt after a while. There's something that gives the users some comfort in hearing that click of the pen hitting the surface. When people are agitated or excited, you hear that click get louder and louder. I can't believe the pen doesn't go through the surface some times!

I just don't see it being useful in anything outside a tablet form for a consumer device.
 
Nice design concept but, IMO, way too big a visual footprint with chin extending all the way to desk, especially for 20" and 24" widescreen formats.
 
Maybe it will be a mini-tower!

(Seriously, an all-in-one mini-tower with the screen mounted to the system box - so that the screen hides most of the box.)

Aiden, I must say you are strong in that idea...congrats..! :rolleyes:

But it's not gonna happen, sorry...Apple makes AIOs for people...and absolutely great ones for that matter, priceless in comparison with any other PC...:rolleyes:
 
Well, the problem with your argument is that you are looking at how things are right now. We had touchscreen in cell-phones before iPhone. They were pretty ho-hum. And still iPhone was something really, really different. And really, really great.

Yes, we have computers right now that have touchscreens. And they are pretty ho-hum. What makes you think that IF Apple releases an iMac with touchscreen it will be as boring as current touchscreen-machines are? Was the iPhone as ho-hum as the multitude of touchscreen-phones the preceded it?

And what to do with the touchscreen? Well, maybe Apple is moving in to a whole new UI-paradigm? Maybe they feel that the multitouch-tech in the iPhone could be used in general purpose computers as well? From the top of my head, that touchscreen would be very useful in apps like GarageBand, Logic, Reason, iPhoto, Aperture, Cubase and so forth.

Just because touchscreens are a niche right now, does not mean that it NEEDS to be niche, espesially on Macs.
You said it all. A touchscreen Mac should not be expected to look and feel and act like a touch Windows machine.
One more benefit would be the possibility for a infinitely adjustable and customizable keyboard for each app. If doing work in Photoshop, you could have macros assigned, labeled, and grouped according to the way you want to use them, and a completely different keyboard layout for another task. I know that typing on a screen would not be as easy as a physical keyboard, so if you are writing a novel then by all means use one, I doubt they would stop making keyboards.
If any of this does come true, I'm sure it would be met with sceptics, crying that the earth should remain flat, but it could just be a true revolution for computers, not a speed bump with a black paint job and a facelift.
 
You said it all. A touchscreen Mac should not be expected to look and feel and act like a touch Windows machine.
One more benefit would be the possibility for a infinitely adjustable and customizable keyboard for each app. If doing work in Photoshop, you could have macros assigned, labeled, and grouped according to the way you want to use them, and a completely different keyboard layout for another task. I know that typing on a screen would not be as easy as a physical keyboard, so if you are writing a novel then by all means use one, I doubt they would stop making keyboards.
If any of this does come true, I'm sure it would be met with sceptics, crying that the earth should remain flat, but it could just be a true revolution for computers, not a speed bump with a black paint job and a facelift.

That is a wonderful keyboard idea! I could really use that in a Garageband situation...
 
Buildin tv tuner

I'd like to see to make the iMac to be more multimedia centered. A build-in television tuner and a wide screen would be great.
 
Possibly -- or perhaps it shares the same fate as the 15" Titanium PowerBook that was the last join it's updated brethren, the 17" and the 12". People are generally cheap and want "the experience" as cheaply as possibly. Apple could get around that by forcing those interested enough in the product to buy the 20 or 24 inch models before offering the 17".

Appleinsiders.com said:
It's likely for these reasons that the firm's entry-level 17-inch iMac model will reportedly become the subject of considerable neglect. People familiar with the matter are confident that the forthcoming iMac redesign will grace only the 20- and 24-inch models, which are outfitted with widescreen displays comparable to smaller living room television sets. The 17-inch iMac, those people say, will enter a state of limbo that could ultimately phase it out of the lineup entirely, condemning it to the same fate as the 12-inch PowerBook.

I think it would be a mistake to drop the 17", unless they drop the price on the 20". But maybe the 20" and 24" are selling better than I imagine?

They're not dropping the 17", they are just (if the rumor is true) not going to use the new case design on the 17".

i can see apple dropping the 17" like they did the 15" long ago. 20" and 24" imac prices might drop enough to warrant the discontinuation of the 17" model. hopefully, the new designs will really make people wonder, "where did the computer go?"
 
It's a two-piece all-in-one

But it's not gonna happen, sorry...Apple makes AIOs for people......

The mini-tower would have a mount that integrated power and signal for the screen.

The screen could detach for shipping (or repair), and then click - it's back.

Apple could even offer upgrades (get a larger screen, or faster system), but probably wouldn't.

And what about BTO options, so that the screen size was just a check mark on a menu - so you could get a fast system with a small screen, or a big screen on an otherwise modest system.

You're right though - it makes too much sense, Apple wouldn't do it.
 
I'd like to see to make the iMac to be more multimedia centered. A build-in television tuner and a wide screen would be great.

That's an interesting thought. Apple my try to reclaim the iMac as the center of the digital hub. The TV tuner is a fine idea but then we encounter the problem of people crowding around the computer to watch TV or a movie. That seems like an unpopular idea. Their other option is to make the iMac more of a ":apple:TV Pro." It would have to have:

1) Throughput to a TV including HDMI or something of the sort (to emphasize the push for HD).
2) TV-Mode FrontRow (obviously)
3) TV-Mode Live Browsing of the iTS
4) TV-Mode easy DVR capabilities

Seeing as how this device would immediately suffocate :apple:TV itself, I highly doubt this is the route Apple would take, but I'd surely love a computer that could output to a TV with a decent resolution. Yum!

-Clive
 
This doesn't effect me in any way other than the fact that i love Apple and their innovation in style and amazing software/hardware ! I can't wait to see what they have in store for the new iMacs. :D :D :D
 
wouldn't it be a companion to iTV, not a replacement

1) Throughput to a TV including HDMI or something of the sort (to emphasize the push for HD).

Seeing as how this device would immediately suffocate appleTV itself


Doesn't iTV already provide all of that - putting a tuner in the iMac just makes it a better server for iTV.
 
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