Next-Generation 15-Inch MacBook Pro Shows Up in Benchmarks

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Last month, a new entry in the results database for popular benchmarking tool Geekbench 2 appeared to reveal Apple's next-generation 13-inch MacBook Pro. Many observers had expected the update to come at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference last month, but Apple has yet to release the new machines.

    A new Geekbench result posted earlier today now appears to reveal Apple's next-generation 15-inch MacBook Pro, carrying a code name of "AAPLJ45,1". As with the 13-inch model, it is not clear whether this machine is a Retina or non-Retina model, although Apple has been rumored to be leaving the non-Retina models without any further updates as it seeks to phase out the line in favor of an all-Retina lineup.


    The benchmarked 15-inch MacBook Pro, which carries one of Intel's new Haswell processors and 16 GB of RAM, received a Geekbench score of 12497, roughly in line with the current generation of the machine. But as was seen with the MacBook Air released last month, Haswell's biggest benefit comes in efficiency, with Apple being able to boost the battery life on those machines to up to 12 hours.

    The chip included in the benchmarked machine is a Core i7-4950HQ running at 2.4 GHz and offering Intel's new high-end Iris Pro 5200 integrated graphics. Intel's promotional materials for Iris previously showed graphics performance gains of 2-2.5x for this i7-4950Q with Iris 5200 compared to the i7-3840QM with HD Graphics 4000 found in the current stock high-end Retina MacBook Pro.

    Apple's 15-inch MacBook Pro has, however, historically also included a dedicated graphics chip for improved performance, although it is unclear exactly what Apple's plans are in this regard for future generations. With Intel's integrated graphics seeing significant increases in performance, it is possible that Apple could, at least on some models, forego a dedicated graphics chip in order to push battery life even higher.

    As with the 13-inch model benchmarked earlier, this 15-inch model is running a custom build of OS X Mavericks, in this case 13A2052. The machine is also running a Boot ROM dated June 24.

    Apple's 15-inch MacBook Pro currently offers 7 hours of battery life, and while Apple may not be able to duplicate the 80% increase in battery life seen with the MacBook Air's switch to Haswell due to other power-hungry components such as the MacBook Pro's Retina display, the company may still be able to offer substantial battery life improvements in its new machines.

    Update 8:53 AM: Primate Labs' John Poole tells MacRumors that Geekbench does collect GPU information, and that this machine does NOT appear to have a discrete GPU in addition to the integrated Iris 5200 graphics from Intel. Poole notes that it is possible that Geekbench could have failed to pick up the presence of a discrete GPU, as Primate Labs is still working out issue with that feature of the software, but that all testing so far has indicated that Geekbench should see the discrete GPU if it is present, even if it has been turned off for the benchmarking run.

    Article Link: Next-Generation 15-Inch MacBook Pro Shows Up in Benchmarks
  2. CristobalHuet macrumors 65816


    Jan 18, 2008
    This is too much.

  3. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    I'm butt-clenchingly excited to see what the new MBPs bring to the table, especially when it comes to battery life. Things I'm sure we expect are PCIe Flash and possibly 3-4 hours more juice. But a GPU upgrade from the 650M would really seal the deal for me.
  4. newdeal macrumors 68020

    Oct 21, 2009
    it wouldn't really push the battery life higher by leaving out the discrete gpu because their estimate of battery life uses the integrated gpu anyway. It would just be like using integrated only so the battery life would only be pushed higher from haswell
  5. polee macrumors 6502a


    Jul 22, 2008
  6. johnhw macrumors 6502

    Jun 16, 2009
    The new MBPs would look slick if they had the black anodized aluminum of the black iPhone 5. A la BlackBook :D
  7. longofest, Jul 9, 2013
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2013

    longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    This seems to be pure speculation. The graphics capabilities on the Retina MacBook Pro can barely keep up with the number of pixels it has to drive. I'd expect the 15" model to continue to use dedicated graphics for the foreseeable future.

    UPDATE: In an update from Eric, it does appear that geekbench could only see an Iris and did not see a dedicated chip, which makes this much less speculative.
  8. Xteec macrumors regular

    Sep 21, 2012
    I'd love to see a 13 inch rMBP with no discrete GPU to fill that gap between the high end MBP and the MBA.

    My 2007 MBP is really struggling these days...
  9. Ssysol macrumors newbie

    Jul 9, 2013
    Anyone know rumors on release date?

    Timed with Mavericks release?
  10. Qaanol macrumors 6502a

    Jun 21, 2010
    The "Stream" score looks low. Do we know what 2013 Airs get on that section?
  11. e-coli macrumors 68000


    Jul 27, 2002
    I have the current generation, and it is definitely underpowered graphically. The battery life isn't great either. Can't wait for this update.
  12. fivedots macrumors 6502a

    Jun 29, 2011
    None of the existing 13" rMBP models include a discrete GPU. Unless you're saying you hope it continues this way.
  13. bmunge macrumors 6502

    Mar 7, 2012
    Until it got hundreds of tiny scratches on it after a few months of normal use.
  14. ATDistinction macrumors newbie

    Oct 18, 2011
  15. finnns2000 macrumors regular

    Jun 29, 2006
    Pineapple under the sea
  16. ka-spot macrumors 6502a

    May 23, 2012
    Sofia, Bulgaria
  17. auero macrumors 65816

    Sep 15, 2006
    Iris actually scores better than the 650M if not just as close with almost half the power usage in many tests.

    But I do agree that I don't see Apple leaving dedicated graphics on the 15". For 13" retina users, it'll sure be a treat.
  18. Eithanius macrumors 65816

    Nov 19, 2005
    According to Wiki and MacTracker, previous Ivy procs for 15" MBP are rated as 45W up to 2.8GHz, used on the current high-end rMBP...

    This one is rated at 47W, at only 2.4GHz Wiki listed the 4950HQ procs as the fastest in Intel's arsenal. Hot and slow...? :D:D
  19. DavidBlack, Jul 9, 2013
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2013

    DavidBlack macrumors 6502a


    Jan 27, 2013
    Somewhere In Apple's HQ ;)
    The rMBP is already fast. I hope this new update includes:
    • Lower Price Point
    • New SSD Like what the Macbook Air got
    • Longer battery life 10 hours will be good
    • And lower SSD Prices
    • And maybe a HD 1080p FaceTime camera (The Macbook Pro was the first Mac to get a HD720p FaceTime camera)
    I can't wait I wanted to buy a 13" rMBP but the Intel HD 4000 graphics really held me back.
  20. Shaggymax macrumors member


    Jun 8, 2013
    Lancaster, PA USA
    Guess we have to wait for Back to School to end...
  21. Koulie macrumors regular


    May 19, 2013
    Melbourne, Australia
    Interesting, no dedicated GPU. Will be interesting to see if this is consistant with the whole rMBP line-up...
    Anyhow, small performance bump, and (presumed) battery life improvement. I guess that is all people have been holding back for :p
  22. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
  23. needfx macrumors 68040


    Aug 10, 2010
    macrumors apparently
    2nd gen is 2nd gen

    i.e. ironed out issues
  24. Snowshiro macrumors 6502

    Jan 12, 2008
  25. dagamer34 macrumors 65816


    May 1, 2007
    Houston, TX
    You need to stop thinking that dedicated graphics are magically more performant than "integrated ones". And the Retina MacBook Pro can barely keep up because the CPUs have to suddenly decode 4x image sizes, it has little to do with the GPU. I mean, think about it, we've been able to run multi-monitor setups on the MacBook Air with far fewer pixels and that has a far weaker GPU.

    Anyway, performance specs on Iris 5200 Pro:

    Basically, GPU performance is slightly weaker than a GT650M. Could they include a dedicated GPU? Maybe. But that extra $100 from the eDRAM which Intel is charging likely means no dedicated GPU. For those looking for better GPU performance, you're going to have to wait for Broadwell.

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