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The images show various next-generation CarPlay instrument cluster and interface designs, including a few with what appears to be the logo for German automaker Audi.
Don't get too excited Macrumors,..its just used as an example and means absolutely nothing.

It's required for EU submission. Apple could literally have used ANY logo.
 
Interesting... considering Audi's parent company VW just crafted a deal with Rivian for software development and Rivian has no plans to integrate CarPlay whatsoever...
That doesn't mean that VW might not want CarPlay and make that a requirement. It's not hard to implement. GM decided not to support CarPlay on their new EVs, the the Honda EV that GM builds for Honda based on the same platform has CarPlay because Honda wanted it.
 
No thanks, I can't ever get a consistent connection with regular CarPlay. I do not want this, this is not a selling point to me on either the Apple-side or the car-side of the equation.
AFAIK CarPlay 2 runs on the vehicle, not the phone. Though they are connected. It doesn't need the phone connect and the software stack is very different. You're experience connecting a phone with CarPlay 1, isn't the same at all.
 
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Interesting... considering Audi's parent company VW just crafted a deal with Rivian for software development and Rivian has no plans to integrate CarPlay whatsoever...

I believe the deal is about a wider software system in the car, not infotainment particularly.

Since that announcement, Scout CEO commented that there will be Car Play support.

Scout is already very exciting due to actually listening what people want to buy, but could over deliver by embracing Next gen Car Play.

Reserved both Scout and Rivian R2. Scout looks way more exciting due to Car Play.
 
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I’m looking to buy my first car with my partner finally and of courseee this dang CarPlay 2.0 isn’t out yet lol.

was hoping to get a new Honda with it built in by now…
 
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Apple this month filed next-generation CarPlay images with the EU's Intellectual Property Office, as it seeks to protect the design of the upcoming software system there. It is yet another sign that next-generation CarPlay might finally be nearing launch, after a few redesigned icons for the system showed up in iOS 18.2 beta code earlier this month.


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Porsche's preview of next-generation CarPlay from December 2023

The images show various next-generation CarPlay instrument cluster and interface designs, including a few with what appears to be the logo for German automaker Audi. When it first previewed next-generation CarPlay in June 2022, Apple said Audi was committed to offering it, but the automaker has yet to confirm any specific plans.


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A few of the next-generation CarPlay images filed in the EU

The database entries were discovered by MacRumors contributor Aaron Perris.

Apple has already shown off what next-generation CarPlay looks like several times, so the images do not show anything we have not seen before, but the timing of the filings is notable. Apple's website continues to say that the first vehicles with next-generation CarPlay support will "arrive in 2024," but it has yet to provide a more specific timeframe. Aston Martin and Porsche previewed next-generation CarPlay vehicle designs in December 2023, but neither automaker has released any vehicles with support yet.

With just over a month left in the year, some are beginning to wonder if Apple will still meet its stated 2024 timeframe for next-generation CarPlay. So, it is reassuring that Apple is still working towards a launch behind the scenes.

Article Link: Next-Generation CarPlay Images With Audi Logo Appear in EU Database
So.. I recently jumped ship from Audi (had a Audi S8 2020) and bought a Volvo EX30.. call it a mid-life crisis (I'm 47) but something attracted me to the minimilist and simple light feel of the EX30. Overall, I love the driving and comfort of the car, quite a zen- or spa-like feel to it. The one single, and I see it as a major disappointment, for me is the Android Auto ecosystem, especially coming from CarPlay. First off, I can't call using Facetime from the car's user interface as Facetime doesn't exist. I have to pick up my iPhone and call that way (I primarily use Facetime audio calling to call my family). Secondly, the app ecosystem in Android Auto is quite light compared to CarPlay. Lots of apps which I normally use can't be found. Finally, the syncing between the apps on Android Auto and my phone are horrible. I have to literally manually sync where I left off on my podcast before driving or leaving the car. At this point, I can only dream of a day of owning a next-gen Apple Carplay-powered car, and it looks like I'll be coming back to Audi at some point in the future.
 
So.. I recently jumped ship from Audi (had a Audi S8 2020) and bought a Volvo EX30.. call it a mid-life crisis (I'm 47) but something attracted me to the minimilist and simple light feel of the EX30. Overall, I love the driving and comfort of the car, quite a zen- or spa-like feel to it. The one single, and I see it as a major disappointment, for me is the Android Auto ecosystem, especially coming from CarPlay. First off, I can't call using Facetime from the car's user interface as Facetime doesn't exist. I have to pick up my iPhone and call that way (I primarily use Facetime audio calling to call my family). Secondly, the app ecosystem in Android Auto is quite light compared to CarPlay. Lots of apps which I normally use can't be found. Finally, the syncing between the apps on Android Auto and my phone are horrible. I have to literally manually sync where I left off on my podcast before driving or leaving the car. At this point, I can only dream of a day of owning a next-gen Apple Carplay-powered car, and it looks like I'll be coming back to Audi at some point in the future.
Didn't Volvo say that they were launching CarPlay on that car? Maybe still in-progress?
 
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I want a CarPlay (device) that runs fully on Apple CarOS (or something). Not on some sort of Android OS as almost any system in a car seems to use.
 
No thanks, I can't ever get a consistent connection with regular CarPlay. I do not want this, this is not a selling point to me on either the Apple-side or the car-side of the equation.
I agree.
Even though I love my wireless CarPlay in my car, IMHO essential driving info (like speedometer, warnings, etc.) should not be part of CarPlay (Apple, Android whatever) which is dependant on the phone and its (never 100% reliable-)connectivity.
Infotainment and navigation is fine, and works great.

Besides, if all car manufactures use the same CarPlay features... nothing will set them apart on that front....
 
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205 km/h… I think Germany is the only place where you're allowed to drive that fast on highways. In the rest of the world, having a Porsche is basically 1 % circuit-driving and 99 % bragging.

Indeed, only in Germany. And the highways where it's allowed are getting more and more restricted.
 
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I'm a keen technologist and a regular wireless-CarPlay user without issue in multiple vehicles, but as I write this I'm starting to grow tired of screens just stuck to car dashboards like giant iPads. I'm starting to wish for the return of "proper" dials in front of the steering wheel, along with a nice big screen in the middle for CarPlay integration. Proper knobs for the HVAC controls. I'm not sure that an all-digital approach to dashboard design is sensible... Everybody's opinion is valid though!
 
205 km/h… I think Germany is the only place where you're allowed to drive that fast on highways. In the rest of the world, having a Porsche is basically 1 % circuit-driving and 99 % bragging.
It's totally fine to have that false perception not having driven a real Porsche sportscar ( not the SUVs and business sedans which are no real Porsches to begin with )
I own a Porsche Sportscar and a luxury sedan with even more horsepower and acceleration speed but my Porsche is my king of the B-roads - lightweight, agile and nimble movements and ultra precise steering and feedback from the road with a mechanical steering and stick shift.
I love my Porsche - but I rarely use it on the German Autobahn - it is not fun driving 300 km/h - in fact it is frightening and dangerous and most of all it consumes lots of tire and fuel without any benefit - I like to leave the rubber driving sideways in curvy roads much more - and all other Porsche drivers I know are likewise.

Indeed, only in Germany. And the highways where it's allowed are getting more and more restricted.
Do you have statistics for that? My perception is that most of the speed limits are done with electronic signs and most of the static ones are there for years if not decades. I can not confirm that there are less unlimited Autobahn areas - at least not in my backyard :cool:
But I like to drive these roads more with my luxury sedan instead of my Porsche - the Porsche is by far to easily following grooves on the road while the sedan is just silent and comfortable at ( ultra ) high speeds and far less frightening to drive fast. Fun fact - my V8 with almost 2 ton dry weight consumes less fuel than my lighter and much smaller Porsche with two less cylinders and less power.
 
Apple’s strategy for CarPlay makes no sense.

Why would an automaker invest a lot of time both building their own UX and hooking into Apple’s APIs and having to test and validate a second UX?

It only makes sense if they are selling a hardware kit to go in cars and they are taking over the UX.
 
205 km/h… I think Germany is the only place where you're allowed to drive that fast on highways. In the rest of the world, having a Porsche is basically 1 % circuit-driving and 99 % bragging.
But they've got to get to their design meeting at 11:30 which only 55km away, but the satnav says they have somewhere to go at least 200km away. They need to be driving at 200+km/h
 
I want a CarPlay (device) that runs fully on Apple CarOS (or something). Not on some sort of Android OS as almost any system in a car seems to use.

I want my car to run it's OS, I want my phone to run it's own OS, and I want both to fully compatible with each other, no matter what company produces them.

I'm been strictly a VW/Audi owner for several years now, and I'm going to have to wait and see how this system does independent of my iPhone before purchasing.
 
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Has Apple said that CarPlay 2.0 will work without an iPhone?

I thought it was just a way for car related information to be passed to the phone for reprojection back onto the car screen. So you don't have to leave the CarPlay interface to do in car stuff.
 
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Has Apple said that CarPlay 2.0 will work without an iPhone?

I thought it was just a way for car related information to be passed to the phone for reprojection back onto the car screen. So you don't have to leave the CarPlay interface to do in car stuff.
Usually, there is a fallback to a non-Carplay interface.
 
I agree.
Even though I love my wireless CarPlay in my car, IMHO essential driving info (like speedometer, warnings, etc.) should not be part of CarPlay (Apple, Android whatever) which is dependant on the phone and its (never 100% reliable-)connectivity.
Infotainment and navigation is fine, and works great.

Besides, if all car manufactures use the same CarPlay features... nothing will set them apart on that front....
With this new CarPlay, the car will actually be rendering those parts of the instrument panel. The rest of it will be rendered by the phone and the car will composite it all together.

 
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I’m affraid Apple’s closed CarPlay system will go the same route as tv’s. Nobody wants to get dependent on Apple by Apple rules. That’s why most TV’s run some sort of Android. LG has its own WebOS (which is great by the way).

If Apple wants a bigger part of the automotive business they have to learn to play nice with them. But I’m afraid Apple is too late for that already and Android has been the system of choice for most.
 
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