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Touch screen computers have no use as long as they are mounted VERTICALLY (resulting in a gorilla arm...), but why should Apple not equip their new iMacs with a cool new kind of hinge that allows you to swipe the machine into a stable, HORIZONTAL position. When flipping the machine, it will automatically invoke a kind of TouchFinder (similar to FrontRow), an overlay to the real Finder that has been optimised for touchscreen use (larger buttons, etc.)! Imagine sorting your images in iPhoto touch on that gorgeous 24" screen laying almost flat on your desktop! Imagine cropping a video in iMovie touch! And surfing the internet using Safari touch for the new iMac with onscreen overlay keyboard. And if you want to go back to regular use (egg. to write a paper), you just flip the machine into a vertical position again and you will be back in the regular Finder and are using your keyboard and mouse (that were just hidden by the machine in it's horizontal position).

Now, wouldn't that be genious? Toss in BlueRay and -- boom! A killer machine!!

Genius...in the land of fantasy. What you're talking about would require not only a complete rewrite of the OS, it would also require a complete overhaul of all hardware. Not to mention all the third party stuff which would have to be reconfigured. i.e. completely not something that would come out in September or anytime in the next few years. The problem with touch screen is that although some people and some devices have a use for it (iPhone etc), most people and most desktop devices do not. For Apple the problem is how to incorporate what would essentially be a new UI that is not only practical but universally implementable in the Mac platform. In my opinion they are going the right way about it by doing it via touchpads, not touch screens. The morph from mouse to touchpad is cleaner, easier and more ergonomically logical than that required from mouse/keyboard to touchscreen (not to mention the additional cost of physically producing touchscreens).
 
wasn't August the yearly mark for the iMac?

there was an update in late Feb/early March. I remember because I was getting ready to buy an imac and by luck they surprise released them right before I placed my order

Apple's hype department is at it again.
WOW!! Two new features, and you won't tell us what they are.

Apple didn't say this. this is all just the rumor mill claiming they heard from someone that heard from someone that perhaps maybe something is going to happen.
 
The people who complain about the Gloss screen are hilarious...and their only experience is of having a "look" in the Apple Store, and never actually owning one.

First of all, theres a gloss screen, like the ones Apple used to have as an option, and now there is the gloss screen with a piece of glass in front of it. It's obvious the majority of the people buying Apple computers don't know or don't even care about it, they just see that it looks nice.

The only real complaint from those people you find so hilarious is the fact that there isn't even an option to have a matte screen even when they used to offer that option. That's all we want, a choice.
 
If they "fix" the screen to go back to matte I'm definitely NOT buying one. iMacs are for consumers, not professional photographers

actually it is for both. which is why the move should be to have the option. even if they keep the glossy on the boxed version, be able to go online and order one with matte. all are happy.

could be the same move they use with the whole blu-ray thing.
 
Quite a bit more needed to help boost desktop sales!

1/ height adjustable stand
2/ lose the ugly black (dellesque) back
3/ lose the ugly black apple on the front - go chrome (no not google)
4/ extra cost option of matte screen (up to $60)
5/ introduce express card slot (yeap I know it's not a laptop), for easy upgrading eg USB3.0. Or at least a multi media card reader.
6/ consumer accessible for upgrading HDD (along with RAM of course)
7/ multi-touch "keyboard" external interface with software functions e.g a touch keyboard (when required) and other options eg piano keys for GarageBand etc
8/ as part of the multi-touch "keyboard" interface - lose the mouse(!) for a touch pad interchangeable with number keys.
9/ the idea of a slide-out tablet is interesting - or some kind of docking facility!
10/ OK Blu-ray
 
I still think this is a good idea:

macbook-imac-docked-setup.jpg


…but not for all circumstances of course.

I'm still really happy with my current iMac. But I'm not a big fan of the alu/black/glass like it is now, it somehow looks so hard and cold. Yet on the MacBook I think it looks great.
 
Touch screen computers have no use as long as they are mounted VERTICALLY (resulting in a gorilla arm...), but why should Apple not equip their new iMacs with a cool new kind of hinge that allows you to swipe the machine into a stable, HORIZONTAL position. When flipping the machine, it will automatically invoke a kind of TouchFinder (similar to FrontRow), an overlay to the real Finder that has been optimised for touchscreen use (larger buttons, etc.)! Imagine sorting your images in iPhoto touch on that gorgeous 24" screen laying almost flat on your desktop! Imagine cropping a video in iMovie touch! And surfing the internet using Safari touch for the new iMac with onscreen overlay keyboard. And if you want to go back to regular use (egg. to write a paper), you just flip the machine into a vertical position again and you will be back in the regular Finder and are using your keyboard and mouse (that were just hidden by the machine in it's horizontal position).

Now, wouldn't that be genious? Toss in BlueRay and -- boom! A killer machine!!

And for two person gaming...sweet.

Genius...in the land of fantasy. What you're talking about would require not only a complete rewrite of the OS, it would also require a complete overhaul of all hardware. Not to mention all the third party stuff which would have to be reconfigured. i.e. completely not something that would come out in September or anytime in the next few years. The problem with touch screen is that although some people and some devices have a use for it (iPhone etc), most people and most desktop devices do not. For Apple the problem is how to incorporate what would essentially be a new UI that is not only practical but universally implementable in the Mac platform. In my opinion they are going the right way about it by doing it via touchpads, not touch screens. The morph from mouse to touchpad is cleaner, easier and more ergonomically logical than that required from mouse/keyboard to touchscreen (not to mention the additional cost of physically producing touchscreens).

Ah well, maybe you're right. But a man can dream.

We get it, but the fact remains that unless you're a graphic designer or someone who lives in a glass house, the Gloss screen isn't an issue.

I'm not and don't but it is. If you see what I mean.
 
professional line to a consumer line of laptops.

There is nothing professional about it, unless a consumer can't buy it. They're the same components.

The certain iMac G3s had VGA ports on them. I can't seem to confirm that they would accept input though. I've heard mentions of it though.

I looked at that awhile ago. I can't remember which, but they needed either some special software (other than Screen Recycler) or a modification of hardware to do that.
 
Maybe I should proof-read and clarify

Transistor count alone doesn't affect computing power as much as it used to.

Would you like to explain how that makes sense, exactly? Transistor count is, in a sense, a "side-effect" of adding more computational units (or adding complexity to existing ones, i.e. giving AltiVec Units new instruction sets, or in post-2006 terms, adding SSE4.1 to existing Core architecture).

If you hadn't noticed... the original Pentium 4 (Willamette), had 42 million transistors. Its successor (Northwood) had 54 million, if I remember correctly (much of which had to do with the doubling of L2 cache from 256KB to 512KB). I believe they may have also added another ALU, but it's been a long time since I read about it. Anyway, the performance was significantly increased over the shoddy Willamette chip, which performed, at 1.4 GHz, about equivalently to a 1 GHz Tualatin Pentium III.

Since then transistor counts have risen very dramatically... obviously in no small part due to the exorbitant amount of L2 cache (512 KB used to be standard... large, even, and now, obviously, 3-4 MB is the norm) and more importantly the added cores. Even ignoring the cores and cache though, transistor count has risen dramatically. This has given us added vector (SIMD) units and sets, notably SSE3/4/4.2.

There's no necessary "direct correlation" between transistor count and performance, as we can clearly see with Prescott (~125m, more than double Northwood), which was an absolute failure. But the point is, more transistors give the ability for more performance, if the developers engineer the architectural advances correctly.

It's a balance. Prescott had ample transistor count, but that extra silicon was poorly utilized, and was tied up in additional execution units that did little to aid performance.. all whilst adding to the already considerably lengthy pipeline of the existing P4 architecture until it was so long and inefficient that even the high clocks it was allowed didn't make up for it.

Shorter pipes are more efficient but allow for lower clockspeeds. Hence the core architecture is faster but clocked lower.

Plus holy hell take a look at the GPU scene... we're pushing (and I believe we actually already reached) a billion transistors... notice what the addition of shader processors has done for computational power ;)

Wave behaviour or particle physics is classic theory. Because light and the spectra is dealing with Photons, it is classed as Quantum Physics. Yes it is related to that area, The layers would let light pass or reflect depending on the frequency and/or the wavelength of the light wave.

Interesting... and fair enough, I concede :)

So your printer is just a cute dream... nice.

Damn right. (I use an ink-jet printer though...)
 
I'm curious, but very few people seem to be addressing what the rumor was eluding to, features for the semi-professional audio/video people.

Many of the wish-list items talked about here would seem to have very little if any impact of those activities, other than: faster hard drives, Blue-Ray [possible, but no breath holding], possible quad-core high end, dedicated hardware encoding for high res codecs and/or SD card slot. We will see, no?
 
Blu-ray. Finally. Pro content creators can finally heave a sigh of relief.

And with the new FC and Logic Studios, a whole new world has finally reappeared. It's been a long time.

And matte screen options. Finally. Pro graphics users (and people with windows in their offices and houses) can finally heave a sigh of relief.

As far as an iMac pedestal redesign, whaddya want, antigravity? How about a nice strengthened Slinky with your monitor bobbing all over the desk like a Jack in the Box? Wish it into the cornfield, quick!!!!

Finally, all the Blu-ray and mattte screen naysayers can just shut up.

And the rest of us can say thanks and "See ya at the Apple Store Steve-O, with our grubby cash in hand!"

:apple
 
Blu-ray is a given, even if Apple's plan is to move away from optical media. To the average consumer, Blu-ray is the new "it" thing and its inclusion will help move units.
BD is dying on the vine. Check out your Netflix and Blockbuster cues.
Less and less BD available.
China is now committed to Toshiba and HD DVD.
But who cares anyway?

All physical media for music, film and tv is dead.
New AV features?

BD Fail
HDMI possible
 
I would really like to see Blu-ray but I don't think that it's coming. We would have seen some kind of evidence of it in Snow Leopard, which is going to be out in less than two months and so far there is no mention of Blu-ray whatsoever.

Shhh! It's a surprise.


:apple:
 
In the mean time, the Chinese have adopted and are running with HD DVD, selling them for much less and gaining much wider adoption than Blu Ray is.

The difference between Blu Ray and HD DVD is minimal. If HD DVD returns at an acceptable price, it is going to give Blu Ray a run for its money.

HD-DVD ain't coming back. The menu implementation was so awful it was stupid. I have an LG player that plays both, and HD-DVD is a pain to access any special features. No MENUS! Dumb.

The only reason HD-DVD is so cheap now is the chains are one step from dumping them in the trash.

:apple:
 
What IS people's problem with BD?

Apparently it's a gamer BS personal problem with Sony.

I'm not a gamer, so I could give a rat's ass.

When it comes to Apple's gamer base vs. Apple's FCS and LS pro content creator base, guess who's going to win?

:apple:
 
Matte Option? Absolutely!

Give us the option, Apple!

24" as the "entry level" screen with 26, 28 & 30 options

Lose the "chin"

Ditch the black!

Class it up!

You can do it! :)

Can this happen by the holiday selling blitz?
 
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