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The current iMac form factor is 5 years old. What the computer can or cannot do hasn't *really* changed in that time.

If Apple expects people to upgrade their hardware, they're going to have to give them a compelling reason to do so.
 
They were recorded before Apple made the price cuts to the MBPs. And MS has since updated the as, and created some new ones. (The one with Matt, Jamey, ad Olivia (I think) is just sad: "And the ability to share pictures." WTF?)

And yes, it does show great weakness when you ask a competitor to stop running ads. It shows monumental weakness to ask a competitor to stop running ads, then do nothing special to counter.

Mate, they compared a professional line to a consumer line of laptops. Its so stupid I might as well say that my MacBook is cheaper and better value for money when compared to a Dell Precision Mobile Laptop.

Microsoft went out of their way to choose something Apple doesn't sell and then compare it to an Apple product which isn't even in the same market segment!

I mean, sure, talk about variety, talk about the fact that there is a huge range but to compare it to a niche player of 10% really shows Microsoft's insecurity. For Christ sake, Microsoft has 90% of the market, what more they do they want?
 
Mate, they compared a professional line to a consumer line of laptops. Its so stupid I might as well say that my MacBook is cheaper and better value for money when compared to a Dell Precision Mobile Laptop.

Microsoft went out of their way to choose something Apple doesn't sell and then compare it to an Apple product which isn't even in the same market segment!

I mean, sure, talk about variety, talk about the fact that there is a huge range but to compare it to a niche player of 10% really shows Microsoft's insecurity. For Christ sake, Microsoft has 90% of the market, what more they do they want?

100%

That includes the Console Market.
 
It's perfectly understandable, but the way the "anti-Gloss" brigade go on, and on, and on, and on, and on about the issue is more annoying than rusted sandpaper to the scrotum.

We get it, but the fact remains that unless you're a graphic designer or someone who lives in a glass house, the Gloss screen isn't an issue.

Having used matte screens on the G5 and first Intel iMac's, I couldn't go back now I've used the Gloss display. Yes, that may only be my opinion, but as I said it's more the way that people jump on the bandwagon and moan every, single time a Mac refresh is mentioned.

The hysteria in here at times is painful to read ... there's excitement, and then there's blind, morbid, zealousness.
FWIW, I am not a graphic artist, nor do I live (or work) in a glass house, yet I much prefer a matte screen.

I understand that you feel different and that is okay.

Please understand some of us would really prefer a matte display over a glossy display just because we like matte. That's it. Simple when you think about it.

Bottom line, it's called choice. Some prefer glossy. Some prefer matte. It would be wonderful if Apple provided customers the choice to choose the type of the display that they want.
 
Touch screen computers have no use as long as they are mounted VERTICALLY (resulting in a gorilla arm...), but why should Apple not equip their new iMacs with a cool new kind of hinge that allows you to swipe the machine into a stable, HORIZONTAL position. When flipping the machine, it will automatically invoke a kind of TouchFinder (similar to FrontRow), an overlay to the real Finder that has been optimised for touchscreen use (larger buttons, etc.)! Imagine sorting your images in iPhoto touch on that gorgeous 24" screen laying almost flat on your desktop! Imagine cropping a video in iMovie touch! And surfing the internet using Safari touch for the new iMac with onscreen overlay keyboard. And if you want to go back to regular use (egg. to write a paper), you just flip the machine into a vertical position again and you will be back in the regular Finder and are using your keyboard and mouse (that were just hidden by the machine in it's horizontal position).

Now, wouldn't that be genious? Toss in BlueRay and -- boom! A killer machine!!
I love the idea, although I am trying to imagine how exactly Apple could implement the tilting screen in a usable way, other than just being able to remove the screen and put it on a flat surface.
 
The two features:

1. Matte screen option
2. Ability to use iMac as external monitor. Preferably via hdmi, but probably some proprietary crap.

Since everyone expects bluray I fully expect it to not be there.

Going out on a limb I would say eventually a redesign to make it look like a big iPhone on a stand.
 
The two features:

1. Matte screen option
2. Ability to use iMac as external monitor. Preferably via hdmi, but probably some proprietary crap.

Since everyone expects bluray I fully expect it to not be there.

Going out on a limb I would say eventually a redesign to make it look like a big iPhone on a stand.

The iMac is already the perfect desktop for the masses, and doesn't need anything "groundbreaking" to continue as such. What will happen is the following:

- matte option;
- improved GPUs;
- quad-core option and SD;
- 30" screen option.

And NOTHING else, since it doesn't really need any redesign; it's the best desktop on Earth right now.
 
We all know apple hates full size keyboards

That explains why they made the MacBook Air unnecessarily huge just to fit a full size keyboard on there... :confused:

That AND, they REALLY REALLY REALLY NEED TO MAKE THE IMAC WIDESCREEN!!!

You haven't seen an iMac since 2003, have you?

Blu-ray is possible too.

How?

Why don't one of you pro matte screen people start an online petition??? If you make enough noise Apple will listen! ;)

No one listens to online petitions.

2. Ability to use iMac as external monitor.

You can do that now.

Since everyone expects bluray I fully expect it to not be there.

I don't expect Blu-ray! :D

Give me something as revolutionary to the Macs as the iPhone was to the telephones and i'm happy.

Gee, is that all? :rolleyes:

Microsoft went out of their way to choose something Apple doesn't sell and then compare it to an Apple product which isn't even in the same market segment!

Microsoft also went out of their way to choose something that THEY don't sell: Computers.

For Christ sake, Microsoft has 90% of the market, what more they do they want?

100%.
 
FWIW, I am not a graphic artist, nor do I live (or work) in a glass house, yet I much prefer a matte screen.

I understand that you feel different and that is okay.

Please understand some of us would really prefer a matte display over a glossy display just because we like matte. That's it. Simple when you think about it.

Bottom line, it's called choice. Some prefer glossy. Some prefer matte. It would be wonderful if Apple provided customers the choice to choose the type of the display that they want.

I agree with you completely that Apple should offer a choice of display, I've never disputed that part of the argument.

As I said it was more the way the "anti-Gloss" people jumped on the bandwagon when these stories of iMac refreshes come round, and start shouting that Gloss has to go, Matte is the way forward, etc.

A quick question, do the people who dislike the Gloss iMac displays also have issues with their iPhone screens? They're pretty much identical, but the iPhone is more prone to reflection problems due to it being outside more.

Personally, as I said, I think HD video, photos (viewing good quality ones, not actually working on them), and just everything in general has a lovely sharpness and richness to it with the Glossy display. I love looking at my iTunes library even more than usual, simply because the album art looks simply stunning with the display (I use the grid album art view).
 
I keep trying to preach this to the "long live downloads!" faithful, but they don't get it. The average HD movie sold on iTunes takes up about 4 GB of disk space at 720p. The movies are maybe $5 cheaper than a Blu-ray Disc version, which has 1080p uncompressed with a bitchin' load of quality audio formats (Dolby Digital is NOT high-tech anymore), a lot of good/bad extra features, and the durability of a disc.

If you like downloading movies, fine. But don't try to push that discs are a dead format. The iTunes Music Store just became the top music seller LAST YEAR. I buy almost all music online, but I'm not stupid enough to suggest that CDs are dying. We occasionally do a music swap at work in which we put 15 or so songs on a CD and rotate them around every week. Most of us have an iPod of some sort, but we can't do anything like that.

Digital downloads and optical media are probably going to co-exist for a LONG while. If Apple were to add BD to new Macs, I'd be backing up my music library and photo library on a BD pretty darn quickly.

Until we all have terabit fiber to our homes, there will have to be some form of optical media, be it cubes or discs, it's too early to kill off ANY media. I've heard people poo-poo Blu-ray as a 'way point' between standard DVD's and something else apparently to slow its adoption. That kind of talk, in the short term, is rather misguided and farcical. The truth is, in the long term that everything is a way point but that doesn't mean that companies shouldn't adopt certain formats that are widely available.

My opinion is that Apple will release quad-core imacs and will probably support at least a Blu-ray reader. Those changes however would be 'evolutionary' rather than 'revolutionary'. More USB ports would be great. Anything else is just bizarre. Like adding a fiber optic network port or fibre channel or some other such exotic bits would be jumping the shark and prove to be of rather limited usefulness.

Hey, how about Apple adding an expansion slot to the imac? That would be earth shaking... Being able to change video or add on different ports/cards, etc... Now that would be 'revolutionary'. Especially considering Apple's corporate dislike of slots and ham-handed history with them. Although the Nu-Bus was a great slot IMO but is obviously severely dated now.
 
Using the iMac as an external monitor?
How?

I know earlier iMacs you could, but they haven't had that built in ability for quite a while...

Software makes it possible today, but not in the same good way it would be with a dvi-in or hdmi-in port.
 
A quick question, do the people who dislike the Gloss iMac displays also have issues with their iPhone screens? They're pretty much identical, but the iPhone is more prone to reflection problems due to it being outside more.

I don't do critical image editing on my iPhone. Besides, it's easy to mitigate reflections on an iPhone by changing its orientation or shading it with you other hand or body.

Personally, as I said, I think HD video, photos (viewing good quality ones, not actually working on them), and just everything in general has a lovely sharpness and richness to it with the Glossy display.

Unfortunately, those attractive features on a glossy display usually result in low contrast and flat prints.
 
Software makes it possible today, but not in the same good way it would be with a dvi-in or hdmi-in port.

Using software isn't using it as an external monitor, that is just screen sharing.

Thought I missed them adding back in a feature... or that the mini DisplayPort connection on the back could also be used for input now...
 
How about....

BluRay - all but a certainty
Quad Core - likely, but not certain
Firewire 1600 - if not "1600", the next-generation of firewire
eSATA - at least one connector
SD card slot
A _choice_ of either glossy or matte display on the 24" models
and finally,
EASIER ACCESS to get inside the back when necessary!

- John
 
Nothing more. No nonsense Blu-ray, no radical case change, maybe not even LED screens.

You act all knowing but the iMac needs an overhaul. First thing Apple needs to do is make the iMac more of a desktop. I mean it sits on a desk and you use it on a desk. By putting more power or storage options under the hood they'll keep up with the software. Blu-ray as much as the Apple loyalists contest is a selling point. People who buy iMacs are savvy media types and the iMac should be a media center and not an oversized laptop.
 
I didn't read any replies, so maybe this has been mentioned

Could Apple be redesigning their iMac line to cover more of the middle ground?

A Mac Pro Mini has been long wanted and needed.
A redesign of the iMac with monitor is due for a refresh.

Maybe we will see all new iMacs with a new look and new tech.
Possibly OLED screens with a screen curvature in movie watching mode? Surprise us Apple:D

If Apple added in a real desktop with desktop CPU and video card to the upper iMac line they would gain a significant percentage of a now lost market.
In other words we may see a couple all-in-one iMacs and possibly at least one mac pro mini at the top.

With SSD getting affordable very soon count on seeing SSD's coming standard to a mac near you.
 
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