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Next Generation iPhone: 7.2Mbit, Video Camera, More?

NightFox said:
Personally, I'm in no need of a video camera. If they do add one, fine, but I just hope it isn't to the detriment of the whole iPhone thing. There's a difference between convergence (which is where I think Apple have done a beautiful job) and a device that tries to do everything, and ends up doing everything crap, even the basics.
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I agree. If apple pushes the video most people in TV land will be thinking so what. I'v had video on my phone for years, big deal. If it's HD video people will pay attention.
 
I would also love a Front Facing Camera for iChat!

Seems a natural for the iPhone. Apple has been really wasting its iChat technology which is already great on a laptop, and would even be more fantastic and useful on the iPhone!
 
7.2 Mbps would be nice for people that live in areas (EU/Asia metro areas) that have had it for years.

What has taken Apple so long?
 
yetanotherdave said:
Some people have 32Gb+ of songs/podcasts/video. Some people like to carry all their music in their pocket and have ditched their ipod for their phone.
I have 40Gb+ of music, and use smart playlists to manage what's on my phone, but I wish there was more capacity. 16gb is days of music, but when that one track you want isn't on there at the time it's really irritating.
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I have 40+ Gb of music and podcasts and tv shows... I have 2.8 TB of ripped dvd's that I can dump into H.264 encoder for travel... my point is that it's ridiculous to think you need all of that. Perhaps my old age is showing... but I just don't think more is necessary and I don't want to pay a premium for it. But that is just my opinion. At some point everything will be on demand and this will be moot, but until then, maybe do a better job with your smart playlists and 2500 songs.
 
dewser35 said:
Seriously, what the hell do you need 32GB of storage for? 16GB gives me all the music I could ever need while traveling, all my pictures that I would want to show someone, all the apps I need and plenty I use SOMETIMES, all of the podcasts I listen to and there is still 3GB left to dump a movie on there when I travel for work.
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My current iPod Video 5G 60GB doesn't hold all my music to begin with. I'm going to be replacing it with an iPhone, so I'll take all the space I can get.
 
Small White Car said:
But as other posters have shown, what the actual name will be is tricky. I can't come up with anything either.
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Why not just "the new iPhone?" They never refer to any other hardware by the version. New iMacs are called "the new iMac," new Macbooks are "the new Macbook," new :apple:TV is called "the new :apple:TV," etc. I'm sure we'll call it the G3 iPhone and everybody else will call it the iPhone, just like every other Apple product.

Or they could call it "the Quad-Core iPhone." :cool:
 
bigchief said:
I agree. If apple pushes the video most people in TV land will be thinking so what. I'v had video on my phone for years, big deal. If it's HD video people will pay attention.
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HD video on a mobile platform is a supercharged lawn-mower. The iphone doesn't have higher resolution like some of its competitors because the ROI is small and it makes for a much more laggy UI.
 
chrmjenkins said:
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From the product brief PDF
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Yowza! Good stuff.
 
chrmjenkins said:
This was limited by the size of NAND chips they could get. In the iPhone, they can only fit one (as opposed to two in the touch), and the max size is/was 16 GB. If that has been upped to 32, you'll see 32 GB versions. Don't expect 64 GB soon though.
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I actually had a thread about this. (Shameless thread promotion)

Anyway, I posted these two facts:
I found these two articles. The first is from this week. The second is from August.

As four of these chips are often stacked together in a single package, the technology potentially doubles the amount of storage available on a high-end flash memory die to 64GB but should remain small thanks to SanDisk's more recent 43 nanometer manufacturing process. Toshiba only just started making 32GB packages this past fall.
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Extra bit from cNet:
"It is a 64-gigabit single die (chip), which is 8GB (per die), the highest capacity point in the industry," said Khandker Quader, senior vice president, memory technology & product development, SanDisk, in a phone interview Monday.
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The combined storage is explicitly intended for cellphones, portable media players, video cameras, and other devices where a large amount of storage is necessary in one package. Toshiba doesn't name individual customers, but is a key supplier of Apple and through the design would enable a 32GB iPhone as well as a 64GB iPod touch. Toshiba also produces its own electronics, including Gigabeat media players, and frequently sells its memory for competitors and manufacturers of MMC and SD cards.
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I'd like to hear some thoughts given the wider audience of this thread.
 
Spock said:
I wouldn't think adding that feature would be worthy of the name and tv spots, I think they will drop the 3G off the name.
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Does anyone think Apple will start adding the year for the iPhone model? Like iPhone 2009 or iPhone '09, like iWork '09 or iLife '09.

It definitely will simplify the matter regarding the model release and thus the feature set of the phone at the time.

What ever the model name, the feature set for this release has to be BIG and somewhat special, because isn't the iPhone scheduled release due about the same time Steve Jobs, hopefully, comes back to work? And does anyone think Steve will be the one to introduce the new iPhone this summer?

Or am I just being too, oh, I don't know, but I'm sure someone will inform me! :D
 
"Entry-level laptop"?

So... the iPhone... is like... A MINIATURE TOUCH SCREEN NETBOOK! PRAISE STEVE JOBS! He has answered our cries of pain! :rolleyes:


Seriously, though. Perhaps they'll be increasing the screen resolution and the amount of RAM, too. Background applications, running faster, at higher resolutions (and the OS can take advantage of the extra CPU cycles to scale up older apps). I just worry about battery life... =/
 
I just hope AT&T will lower their rates. With all the bells & whistles (unlimited voice, data, text, etc.) is over $100/month. And considering I don't get/make many phone calls, I'd have a LOT of rollover minutes for my voice so it's a waste for me. Plus I don't make much so I can't afford it. But, on the bright side, no one's forcing me to buy one so I think I'll wait until either the plans are cheaper, I come into a lot more money or both.
 
Sky Blue said:
I'm going to cry about not being able to put a picture on the home screen or change the icons to some crappy scheme of my own choosing
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that's the spirit!

;)

hugodrax said:
Rumor is you will be able to attach a USB powered electric shaver and control the settings via an application and keep track of your shaving history so you can post automatically on twitter every time you shave.
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That was actually pretty funny. Thanks. :)

This all sounds like great news. Can't wait to replace my trusty 2G with this beauty.
 
Rot'nApple said:
Does anyone think Apple will start adding the year for the iPhone model? Like iPhone 2009 or iPhone '09, like iWork '09 or iLife '09.

It definitely will simplify the matter regarding the model release and thus the feature set of the phone at the time.

Or am I just being too, oh, I don't know, but I'm sure someone will inform me! :D
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That actually sounds like a good idea. Anything else just seems confusing. They can't use 1G, 2G, 3G like they did for the iPod because here 3G refers to the cell network. And using plain numbers would also seem weird (e.g., the iPhone 3 is newer than the iPhone 3G?).
 
fleshman03 said:
I actually had a thread about this. (Shameless thread promotion)

Anyway, I posted these two facts:


I'd like to hear some thoughts given the wider audience of this thread.
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Ok, I wasn't up to date on that. Clearly, it means 32 GB is possible. It will just depend on whether or not Apple can get it at a price that is good for their margins. Granted I doubt they are $100 more expensive than 16 GB chips, so it would matter what the 16GB chip cost was as it would (presumably) become the new low-end unless they went for a 8/16/32 offering structure. If they want to create a new pricing level for it, then I would be surprised to not see it come the hardware update.
 
MrCrowbar said:
iPhone AV (like iChat AV) would make sense since you could communicate via audio (normal phone call) and do video calls. I can already imagine Phil Shiller demoing that feature when he calls some Apple employee from iChat and the employee sends video from his iPhone. It would even be kind of practical when you're using the headset and holding the phone in front of you.
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I have a strong feeling that Steve is going to want to be back to introduce the new iphone, at least I hope so... not that there is any problem with the way things are going now though. If he is back, I can imagine him showing off this feature with Phil just like he did with leopard. That is of course if we get this feature.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Ok, I wasn't up to date on that. Clearly, it means 32 GB is possible. It will just depend on whether or not Apple can get it at a price that is good for their margins. Granted I doubt they are $100 more expensive than 16 GB chips, so it would matter what the 16GB chip cost was as it would (presumably) become the new low-end unless they went for a 8/16/32 offering structure. If they want to create a new pricing level for it, then I would be surprised to not see it come the hardware update.
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You're right about the pricing structure and it's questions. However I would make another point.

If they bump the iPhone to 64 using these new single die chips and bump the iPod Touch to 64*2 128gb, then you can kill off the iPod Classic. The iPod Touch would finally be at the point that it equals the regular iPod. (In terms of storage.)

(I honestly like the iPod classic, btw.)
 
fleshman03 said:
You're right about the pricing structure and it's questions. However I would make another point.

If they bump the iPhone to 64 using these new single die chips and bump the iPod Touch to 64*2 128gb, then you can kill off the iPod Classic. The iPod Touch would finally be at the point that it equals the regular iPod. (In terms of storage.)

(I honestly like the iPod classic, btw.)
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I don't see them killing off the classic soon. It still has a big GB/$ advantage and not everyone wants the fancy touch interface and apps. Some people still just want a plain old iPod.
 
MacRumors said:
Another interesting possibility is that Apple may have settled on the Marvell PXA168 ARM chip as the heart of a future device. Some unconfirmed claims point to Apple buying up supplies of this chip which is reportedly also due in the July timeframe. The Marvell PXA168 CPU was announced in January of this year and aims to provide "entry-level laptop" capabilities to consumer electronic devices.
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Mini-tablet? ;)

iPhone2,2: Updated existing iPhone
iPhone3,1: New iPhone (7.2 Mb, video recording)
iProd0,1: Mini-tablet (PXA168, larger display)

?
 
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