Yes. This is much more likely and the new base station is a good indicator of that. The new iPhone will have a faster processor, unthrottling the g connection, making it at least as fast as a netbook on g.
That would be more than acceptable, IMHO.
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Next Generation iPhone: 7.2Mbit, Video Camera, More?
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Yes. This is much more likely and the new base station is a good indicator of that. The new iPhone will have a faster processor, unthrottling the g connection, making it at least as fast as a netbook on g.
That would be more than acceptable, IMHO.
Hmm. The Marvell PXA168 is a nice SoC certainly, however it does have some potential shortcomings:
* It's based upon the Intel XScale, which itself was based upon Digital's StrongARM ARM implementation. As an architecture license (not a core license) this meant that StrongARM was brilliant and fast ... 10 years ago. It's an ARMv5 architecture, whereas ARM cores are now ARMv7 (Cortex A8, etc) and get higher performance per clock. Of course this one is clocked at 1.2GHz.
* The on-board graphics are an unknown. I can see that there is video decode acceleration, but is the 3D good enough to match and exceed the PowerVR MBX in the iPhone?
The Freescale iMX515 SoC, and the Qualcomm Snapdragon, both look like more suitable solutions for a media pad/tablet/netbook system.
* It's based upon the Intel XScale, which itself was based upon Digital's StrongARM ARM implementation. As an architecture license (not a core license) this meant that StrongARM was brilliant and fast ... 10 years ago. It's an ARMv5 architecture, whereas ARM cores are now ARMv7 (Cortex A8, etc) and get higher performance per clock. Of course this one is clocked at 1.2GHz.
* The on-board graphics are an unknown. I can see that there is video decode acceleration, but is the 3D good enough to match and exceed the PowerVR MBX in the iPhone?
The Freescale iMX515 SoC, and the Qualcomm Snapdragon, both look like more suitable solutions for a media pad/tablet/netbook system.
Apple killed the FireWire 400 port... the iPhone won't have one. Maybe a FW800 if we're lucky.
And on our new iPhones, we'll be able to remotely access a DVD drive to install software...kind of like the MacBook Air !!!
So I would say no to a superdrive being standard.
The iPhone 3G supports 3rd gen UMTS and HSDPA 3.6, not HSDPA 7.2 or HSUPA (faster uploads). The current aspect ratio is 3:2 - they might change that to 16:9. It's just a little longer. There is room at the top and bottom for this without extending the over-all length. The home button can be smaller and lower down. The resolution can be bumped as well. They may add a second camera in front for iChat. That would make for a great TV Ad. Imagine you're at your computer having an iChat session with a friend. On your monitor is her face in the upper right corner and she's talking to you. The rest of the screen is what she is recording from the other side of the phone. YouTube might launch a Quik type live streaming service... iReport, etc... live streaming video...
iPhone Video +
Not sure if anyone said this yet (haven't read all the posts), I believe the one feature Apple will push in the next generation iPhone will indeed be Video except with one giant leap... In phone video editing.
Think about it. The possibility of an "entry-level laptop" capabilities, just screams for such an advanced feature. If you really want a phone to be this convergence device everyone screams, whines and grasps for, the last thing you want to do is upload crappy unedited clips to youtube, or remember to sync your phone to your computer so you can edit and then upload to youtube.
Bleh, bleh, bleh, BLEH!!!!
After 8 yrs of blogging, I can't tell you how many times I don't bother to blog something anymore because of the hassle of having to deal with media and bring it up to spec before publishing. 5-8 years ago when blogging was still new + cool it was worth the hassle, now that everyone is doing it, its just not worth it.
Also this type of features isn't just for dedicated bloggers or tech-o-philes. More and more people are posting media from their phones directly to facebook, or myspace or what ever other social media platform that is the in thing. What better way to woo your friends but with nice clean content, that you created while waiting for an appointment or in a meeting because whoever was talking was a complete bore.
If this new social media based web 2.0 is to take off, we need small devices that make publishing quality, fast and simple. Syncing to a home computer first is one too many steps in the chain.
I bet Apple sees this and is positioning themselves accordingly. The video quality will also be very good I suspect, if this is the direction apple takes.
Finally, for all the feature-creature trolls who obsessively count specs, but no where in their OCD assessments consider usability, yes video has been around forever and then some on even the most basic phones, but so far in pretty much every case its implementation has basically been useless. Yes they could capture video, in the same what you can get work done in windoze.
For better or worse apple often waits until they can advance a feature before releasing it. Otherwise, really, why pay the Apple premium?
Not sure if anyone said this yet (haven't read all the posts), I believe the one feature Apple will push in the next generation iPhone will indeed be Video except with one giant leap... In phone video editing.
Think about it. The possibility of an "entry-level laptop" capabilities, just screams for such an advanced feature. If you really want a phone to be this convergence device everyone screams, whines and grasps for, the last thing you want to do is upload crappy unedited clips to youtube, or remember to sync your phone to your computer so you can edit and then upload to youtube.
Bleh, bleh, bleh, BLEH!!!!
After 8 yrs of blogging, I can't tell you how many times I don't bother to blog something anymore because of the hassle of having to deal with media and bring it up to spec before publishing. 5-8 years ago when blogging was still new + cool it was worth the hassle, now that everyone is doing it, its just not worth it.
Also this type of features isn't just for dedicated bloggers or tech-o-philes. More and more people are posting media from their phones directly to facebook, or myspace or what ever other social media platform that is the in thing. What better way to woo your friends but with nice clean content, that you created while waiting for an appointment or in a meeting because whoever was talking was a complete bore.
If this new social media based web 2.0 is to take off, we need small devices that make publishing quality, fast and simple. Syncing to a home computer first is one too many steps in the chain.
I bet Apple sees this and is positioning themselves accordingly. The video quality will also be very good I suspect, if this is the direction apple takes.
Finally, for all the feature-creature trolls who obsessively count specs, but no where in their OCD assessments consider usability, yes video has been around forever and then some on even the most basic phones, but so far in pretty much every case its implementation has basically been useless. Yes they could capture video, in the same what you can get work done in windoze.
For better or worse apple often waits until they can advance a feature before releasing it. Otherwise, really, why pay the Apple premium?
I was waiting till the 129 gig storage, 50 gigawatt megapixel unlocked verizon, data tethering for free, iPhoneInvisa...
But this will do...
and don't forget the built-in oscillating over-thruster with the trans-warp inducers across a 50 Jigawatt range. Otherwise it's just a piece of crap.
You can also sink it to your music library on your phone and shave according to the beat of the music.
I was just in Zurich, Switzerland last week and I walked by an Orange store in downtown that was advertising iPhones, complete with the huge window displays like they have at apple stores. You're in europe, so you probably don't have a 2-yr contract. Just head over there and get one!
iPhone Photo
If there is any of you that fancies a flutter - I will put good money on them calling it the iPhone Photo - it would be in line with their previous range names and Steve doesn't like to do anything by halves. Either the camera is a feature that rocks - or it gets a mention and not much else. He is not going to stand up there and say "this very marginal improvement rocks!" - nope - no way. It will be a decent camera, with a video function, and possibly a video editing app to go with it. Fo' Shizzle...
If there is any of you that fancies a flutter - I will put good money on them calling it the iPhone Photo - it would be in line with their previous range names and Steve doesn't like to do anything by halves. Either the camera is a feature that rocks - or it gets a mention and not much else. He is not going to stand up there and say "this very marginal improvement rocks!" - nope - no way. It will be a decent camera, with a video function, and possibly a video editing app to go with it. Fo' Shizzle...
aw..I have a feeling us Canadian won't be seeing this on launch(if) it does but this brightens up my day
It won't be called iPhone 3.0 because that will confuse it with the software. The iPhone 3G wasn't called iPhone 2.0. They singled out the new phone's most distinguishing feature for the moniker.
I would except iPhone video or something like that.
I would except iPhone video or something like that.
Don't Buy Apple Care for iPhone
As I recall, the iPhone without Apple Care has a one year warranty - Apple care will extend this by another year; if Apple produces a new phone every year (as it has done) and if you buy the latest phone - then why buy Apple Care? Look for a shorter warranty period from Apple - otherwise its just free money to Apple - but love the phone....
As I recall, the iPhone without Apple Care has a one year warranty - Apple care will extend this by another year; if Apple produces a new phone every year (as it has done) and if you buy the latest phone - then why buy Apple Care? Look for a shorter warranty period from Apple - otherwise its just free money to Apple - but love the phone....
iPhone could have two cameras. The whole Video Calling concept would finally take off.
As for the name, iPhone Pro and iPhone Classic ?
iPhone Shuffle. No screen, just have your contacts read out to you via speaker until the one you want appears.
I do miss being able to use FireWire for my iPod. It was one less USB port consumed on my PC and Mac. FW800? I'd like that.
As for the name, iPhone Pro and iPhone Classic ?
iPhone Shuffle. No screen, just have your contacts read out to you via speaker until the one you want appears.
Apple killed the FireWire 400 port... the iPhone won't have one. Maybe a FW800 if we're lucky.
And on our new iPhones, we'll be able to remotely access a DVD drive to install software...kind of like the MacBook Air !!!
I do miss being able to use FireWire for my iPod. It was one less USB port consumed on my PC and Mac. FW800? I'd like that.
Except 3G networks in high-density places in the US still don't compare to equivalent places in Europe (except maybe Sprint's network).
So no, US cell sucks balls however the way you dice and slice it. And it's not like Europe rocks either on that front, if you want impressive wireless check Korea and Japan (now those are densely populated)
The current iPhone 3G supports HSDPA 7.2. What it doesn't support is 14.4 (or HSUPA, or HSPA+)
That's a very logical argument, but people have also been making logical arguments for the xmac/mac pro mini/mac mini pro/headless imac, and we've yet to see any hint that apple cares.
For better or worse, apple's execs don't think like most of us. They deliberately ignore certain sections of the market (gamers, netbook users) simply because it's not their vision for apple.
Multitouch seems to be a big part of that vision, and maximum "value" (dollars per GB/Ghz/fps) does not. I hope I'm wrong, but I've thought since the last time they upgraded the ipods that this was the end of the line for the classic, and I still think so.
fleshman03 said:
I'll take any bet you want. The chance of a slide out QWERTY on an iphone while Steve Jobs is still breathing is zero.
Actually, if they killed the border between the bezel and screen, either by making the screen bigger or the case smaller - you're looking at a 10% increase in screen size (or decrease in physical dimensions).
Not bad if you ask me.
I think faster internet (both HSUPA or HSPA+ and draft-N) and video recording are a given in the next device. I'm really hoping for a return to the metal back, as well.
I think the next iPhone will probably just be called 'the new iPhone', unless they decide to keep the 3G around as the low-end, in which case it will probably be either iPhone AV, iPhone Video, or - just maybe - iPhone HD.
Speaking of iPhone HD. Did a quick mockup. If they decide to go 16:9 640x400 is the most likely resolution. They could keep the same form factor and easily put a 4" screen in the device, like so:
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I doubt Apple would go with iPhone video or photo. It's not an iPod. A more likely name, and keeping with current Apple naming conventions would be iPhone Pro. That would also take it to where Apple really wants to go... corporate to compete w/ the Blackberry.
+1/2
I agree that generally it'll be called the iPhone, but with a "technical" name of something else. Commercials will call it iPhone, but here at MR and fellow nerds will call it by it's full name. And it will also be called by its full name when it's in trouble (like when your mom yells at you when you get into trouble)