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I was just in Zurich, Switzerland last week and I walked by an Orange store in downtown that was advertising iPhones, complete with the huge window displays like they have at apple stores. You're in europe, so you probably don't have a 2-yr contract. Just head over there and get one!

Mine is Sunrise, the ONLY one not offering iPhones...Swisscom and Orange all have 'em...and I don't feel like terminating a contract, paying a fee and getting a new one...WAKE UP, Sunrise!
 
iProd refers to the new iPhone Pro, the will retain and keep selling the iPhone 3g and offer it at a cheaper selling price. Consumers will then have a choice between standard iPhone and the pro version much like their computers.

Just my thoughts they could easily soak up the market by having a cheaper and more expensive devicenwith only slight capability differences.
 
Like I said before, it'll probably not have OLED, but it will have a high rez screen 480x800 or whatever have background apps and better camera, and will be called iPhone Pro. I think.
 
Like I said before, it'll probably not have OLED, but it will have a high rez screen 480x800 or whatever have background apps and better camera, and will be called iPhone Pro. I think.

I wouldn't count on background apps. They wouldn't have put so much effort in putting down background apps if they were planning on doing it soon. Now maybe the next iPhone in 2010+ after enough developers have complained that they don't like the new Push, or the Push turns out to be as bad or worse than MobileMe was.
 
Personally, I don't think it will be called the iPhone pro. The may make a version called the iPhone pro which has better specs than another. I hope all of these rumours are true. The iPhone will dominate the mobile market!
 
IPhone Pro

It would make a lot of sense to have performance separation and not just a variation in disk space.

The thing is, if we follow the acronym rule around here... it might be called the I.P.P.?

cmon, that's funny.
 
Speaking of iPhone HD. Did a quick mockup. If they decide to go 16:9 640x400 is the most likely resolution. They could keep the same form factor and easily put a 4" screen in the device, like so:

Well, 640x400 is 16:10, not 16:9.

640x360 would be 16:9. That would fit in the same width as the current iPhone (at the worst you would have a slightly higher DPI on the screen), but maybe a little bit taller. The problem here is that it's not much different in horizontal pixels (360 vs 320) from the existing device, yet could disrupt many applications. Otherwise I don't think you need much more.

I simply don't have an idea what Apple plans with regards to the phone's screen. Maybe one model will keep the current screen, and the high end will have a higher resolution ~800x480 OLED screen ... nothing has been rumoured yet except maybe OLED.
 
Intel Atom

They should have put the Intel Atom into the iphone. Big mistake by apple on not putting the atom into the iphone.
 
Not sure if anyone said this yet (haven't read all the posts), I believe the one feature Apple will push in the next generation iPhone will indeed be Video except with one giant leap... In phone video editing.
I see mobile iMovie in the rumored mini-tablet ("iProd"?).
 
They should have put the Intel Atom into the iphone. Big mistake by apple on not putting the atom into the iphone.

No they didn't, the ARM CPUs are much much MUCH more power efficient. With Atom you would be looking at make the already not-so-great battery life of the iPhone even worse.
 
They should have put the Intel Atom into the iphone. Big mistake by apple on not putting the atom into the iphone.

Wrong. the Multi-Core ARM 9x is the future for the iPhone.
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9_MPCore.html

The Marvell looks to be more of the application chip for AppleTV and to offload from the CPU. The specs are targeting the AppleTV whereas the ARMCortex-A9_MPCore targets the iPhone with the upcoming GPGPUs from Imagination Technologies [http://www.imgtec.com/] PowerVR.

The AppleTV would use the Marvell for offloading from its Intel CPU to add more valuation/performance without having to move to the Core2Duo CPU and add considerable cost from the current set up.
 
Really? Most phones have had that functionality for years. How about iPhone MMS? :eek::p:D

Seriously though, I hope the next iPhone has a lot more than just a few catchup features. I mean, the current iPhone 3G is perfect for my needs right now (and will be even better once I get all the "catchup" features included in 3.0) but I'm looking forward to a faster chip and better screen res.

I'm just not sure what the next revolutionary thing is going to be.
Well all the iphone 3g had was "catchup features" but yet it sold.

This is silly, the 1st Gen. iPhone has a video camera too! Apple just has not released software to use it -- Jailbreak your iPhone, and you will find a few video capture applications -- obviously Apple's idea is planned obsolescence and they won't add all the features people thought they would eventually get with phone hardware that is capable! Greedy corporations as usual...

But yet you knew this but still went and bought it, very smart of you.
 
Its too bad there isn't a "build your own iPhone" page on Apple's website.

I have been holding out for the new iPhone for months, if the only real change is added video i will be pissed off i waited this long. That is one feature i really could not care less about. More storage space, faster connections speeds, maybe some improvements on the apps that are already out there...multi core..the important stuff! :D
 
They should have put the Intel Atom into the iphone. Big mistake by apple on not putting the atom into the iphone.

Just because Intel is the biggest name in CPUs, doesn't mean their stuff is the best. The Atom doesn't come close to the efficiency of ARM processors.
 
But yet you knew this but still went and bought it, very smart of you.

That is not right. Maybe he got it thinking Apple would be just a little less greedy than they usually are and unlock a feature that the device is capable of. I guess that would be asking too much?

It makes you feel hustled in a way. Its like buying an SUV and having a lock over the 4 wheel drive switch because the manufacture wants to hold out and have you buy next years model to get that feature. You still paid for equipment capable of doing the job, the technology is there, they just want to hit you for another 600.00 if you want to use it. Defend every move Apple makes if you want, someone always will...
 
It seems highly logical to keep the 8gb iPhone 3G, lower it to $99, and introduce an iPhone Pro. You may not like the same but it makes sense. The above features would characterize it as a Pro version of its former self. Double the connection speed, Video over Photo, larger capacities.

All of it sounds like an iPhone Pro to me. Would fit perfectly with the overall product line. Great stuff.

Too bad aluminum didn't work out because it would be nice to see a return. Hopefully a new chip is powerful enough to overwhelm the poor audio signal.
 
The US doesn't compare to Europe both in population density or geographic area. It's a lot more investment with less return to have 3G everywhere here. Same goes for broadband.
There is a difference between not covering sparsely populated areas and not offering high-speed in densely populated one. The former is fully understandable, the latter just means they are slow. If you look at the population density in the areas AT&T has 3G coverage and compare it with the population density in the areas where you have 3G coverage in a lot of European countries (+ certain Asian ones), the US population density is not lower anymore.
 
7.2Mbps mobile internet. That's as fast if not faster than what many Canadians have for wired home internet. Wholesale DSL ISPs in Ontario and Quebec are still stuck with 5mbps, which is actually 4.3mbps after overhead. Although 3.5G will likely have quite a bit of overhead, the speed will probably end up at around 6.1mbps.
 
That is not right. Maybe he got it thinking Apple would be just a little less greedy than they usually are and unlock a feature that the device is capable of. I guess that would be asking too much?

It makes you feel hustled in a way. Its like buying an SUV and having a lock over the 4 wheel drive switch because the manufacture wants to hold out and have you buy next years model to get that feature. You still paid for equipment capable of doing the job, the technology is there, they just want to hit you for another 600.00 if you want to use it. Defend every move Apple makes if you want, someone always will...

Defend, why don't you buy what you need now instead of hoping what a company will add later. If you wanted video and it didn't have it in the first place, you shouldn't have bought it period.
 
All I want is cut, copy, and paste!

Whaaaa? Its on its way? Ah crap! I need to find something else to bitch about. Damn it!

For the next iphone, I am pretty satisfied with the new additions to the OS Software that was my main hindrance with the phone.

On the physical side? Video recording, yes, will be nice as long as it comes with a more advanced better camera. At least 3mp please. Larger storage size definite.

Software end? Please block my IM if my phone is locked. It is annoying to see my messages blaring across the screen even though I have the phone locked. What kind of security is that? Just, at most, display "you have new text message" and allow me to get to it, not display who its from and the message. Same with voice mail. Also being able to run safari and another program at same time or the ability to save the web page and not have to reload it every time I leave the screen and come back would be nice.

I think they will still keep the 3G name around for at least one generation of the Iphone Video but then drop the 3g after it becomes standard across the board the following revision. Need to be able to distinguish with the public the changes and keep a lower price entry item/point, etc.

That feature is already there.

Settings > General > Passcode Lock > Show SMS Preview (set to Off).

" Name
Text Message"

That's how it looks.
 
They should have put the Intel Atom into the iphone. Big mistake by apple on not putting the atom into the iphone.

What? The iPhone came out a year before the Atom, the Atom uses 10x too much power for a phone CPU, it idles 100x higher, it requires about 20x more motherboard real estate (i.e., right now it can't fit into a phone form factor without destroying the form factor) because of the chipset, and the chipset itself uses 50x too much power for the form factor.
 
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