3.2 MP will be good if its a GOOD 3.2 MP sensor and lens. A good 3.2 MP would blow away the average 5 MP that you see in cell phones.
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3.2 MP will be good if its a GOOD 3.2 MP sensor and lens. A good 3.2 MP would blow away the average 5 MP that you see in cell phones.
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As to the amount of MP a camera sensor can produce this are important but the actual size of the sensor is the most important. A compact camera with a resolution of 15mp will not be as great as a DSLR with a 10MP sensor because the size of the sensor is much smaller, same goes with a canon 5D, the previous 12MP sensor was full frame so 35mm size and a 40D is AP-C sized so nearly half the size but had 10MP by the number you would think the quality is around the same but passed A3 the full frame sensor will show much better details. Therefore the more you cram on a small sensor the result is you can blow pictures past A3 size but the quality from a 15mp compact camera will be no where near close to that of a 10mp DSLR of the same size, same with the better models.
The hope is that apple has ordered a larger sensor so the images will look comparable to the 8mp sony equivalents at the same size, but i doubt it.
The size of these sensors also needs a distance ratio from the lens, so a thickness change would need to be made, also if a decent camera was added it would dominate the design on the rear ruining the simplistic comptemporary design on the back and aesthetics is more important to apple than a camera.
To be honest if you want a decent camera experience the mobile platform is far from it!
As to the amount of MP a camera sensor can produce this are important but the actual size of the sensor is the most important. A compact camera with a resolution of 15mp will not be as great as a DSLR with a 10MP sensor because the size of the sensor is much smaller, same goes with a canon 5D, the previous 12MP sensor was full frame so 35mm size and a 40D is AP-C sized so nearly half the size but had 10MP by the number you would think the quality is around the same but passed A3 the full frame sensor will show much better details. Therefore the more you cram on a small sensor the result is you can blow pictures past A3 size but the quality from a 15mp compact camera will be no where near close to that of a 10mp DSLR of the same size, same with the better models.
The hope is that apple has ordered a larger sensor so the images will look comparable to the 8mp sony equivalents at the same size, but i doubt it.
The size of these sensors also needs a distance ratio from the lens, so a thickness change would need to be made, also if a decent camera was added it would dominate the design on the rear ruining the simplistic comptemporary design on the back and aesthetics is more important to apple than a camera.
To be honest if you want a decent camera experience the mobile platform is far from it!
Yes, thats pretty obvious by now. All recent Apple iPhone related patents, WWCD conference, hacked features from iPhone OS 3.0 etc. Get ready your wallet for new iPhone this summer
While it is true megapixels aren't the only value to measure a camera quality (sensor size, dinamic range, noise, etc), 5MP is the absolute minimum.
And some form of focusing. The current fixed focus is bollocks =/
And some form of focusing. The current fixed focus is bollocks =/
I don't see a magnetometer in the list. The addition of "magnetometer" in the configuration files really had me convinced. I hope this is an incomplete list. The magnetometer was the single selling point for me.
The addition of "magnetometer" in the configuration files really had me convinced. I hope this is an incomplete list. The magnetometer was the single selling point for me.And I dont know about you guys, but who really wants/needs video calling? Unless of course you want to have naked phone sex.
For me and many others it will be killer feature. I love video iChat with my friends and especially with family. Now when I will be out I could show them where I am and what I do etc.
I am not asking you to understand this like no one ask you why are you Apple/Mac addict...well if you are. I am
Meh
If you go on a vacation to an exotic location you don't plan to visit again, do you use your iPhone to take pictures or a good camera that can arguably do much more for you?
I like that the iPhone can take pictures, but I don't need more than 2 Megapixels for casual shots. iPhone photography is spur-of-the moment, candid shot, spontaneous photography. I am not terribly interested in professional quality. Besides, the lens is the key to success with photography, IMO. I don't see the one on the iPhone becoming a priority for Apple anytime soon.
If you go on a vacation to an exotic location you don't plan to visit again, do you use your iPhone to take pictures or a good camera that can arguably do much more for you?
I like that the iPhone can take pictures, but I don't need more than 2 Megapixels for casual shots. iPhone photography is spur-of-the moment, candid shot, spontaneous photography. I am not terribly interested in professional quality. Besides, the lens is the key to success with photography, IMO. I don't see the one on the iPhone becoming a priority for Apple anytime soon.
That's AT&T mate. I've never had a dropped call in the UK. Ever.
Except when I swore at the person on the other end...
This is obviously an incomplete list. No mention of CPU, screen, battery, enclosure, accelerometer, ambient light sensor, proximity sensor, vibrator, etc.I don't see a magnetometer in the list.
I'm also hoping for a magnetometer. A lot of interesting applications can be developed for it.
Goodness....All you folks that want ichat and video cameras, why don't you buy a laptop? Do you know how bad video chat would suck on an iphone? think about it? you'd have a convex looking face/head holding the phone up to your face, and I can't imagine the quality being that great. And with AT&T's network, good luck having a conversation. It would be more like a picture slideshow then a video because of the constant video jerk caused by AT&T's slow shameful network. 3.2 mega for stills would be perfect. I too, don't understand why everyone wants a camera in their iphone that rivals a nikon D80. Get a grip folks, its just a phone.
Impressive.
I see Cell Phone Photography becoming an art in itself.
Agree on this. iPhone 3G make nice pictures especially outside. I know it hasn't got many pixels but technology behind colors, tones matter more than size of lens. On the end of the day its a phone; its not camera. Next thing you will moan about that it doesn't have a shaver too.
Bottom line for this forum is, as someone got that in his signature, that if Jesus would turn all available water into red wine, half of this forum will moan that they wanted white one.
If you go on a vacation to an exotic location you don't plan to visit again, do you use your iPhone to take pictures or a good camera that can arguably do much more for you?
I like that the iPhone can take pictures, but I don't need more than 2 Megapixels for casual shots. iPhone photography is spur-of-the moment, candid shot, spontaneous photography. I am not terribly interested in professional quality. Besides, the lens is the key to success with photography, IMO. I don't see the one on the iPhone becoming a priority for Apple anytime soon.
I like my spur-of-the moment, candit shot, spontaneous photography look "allright" not a bunch of pixelated, blurred noise.
I couldn't agree more. Before I got an iPhone 3G, I've been using a Sony Ericsson W880i. It's a 3G phone with a front facing camera. I tried video call a few times, and it just doesn't work. The video resolution is too low, and it was more like a slideshow than a video. Not just that, holding up the phone at a distance in front of my face for a while just doesn't feel very comfortable, not to mention awkward in public.
That's awesome.
Constructive input.
Seriously though, 3.2MP will be fine as long as the lens etc is good enough. If it can takes pictures like that chap's Sharp phone, it'll be great.
I'd really like to hear some info about battery life, and the casing of the phone itself.
I wonder how the pic would look if you had moving students...
Absolutely agree. I think most people who actually own iPhones who have commented think this too.
(yes that excludes all you people commenting who've not owned one yet
)I'd like to see a camera that can take pics in less than bright sunlight. I live in Manchester, UK. We get maybe 5 days of California-bright sunlight in a whole year
Basically my current Sony has a 8.1mp camera, it looks all rite, but to get a decent sharp image out of it, i need to make the picture 30% smaller in photoshop to increase the pixels per inch and the static.
so with a 3.2mp camera I'll have to decrease the size at least 40% to minimize the noise in the picture.
end of the day all camera phones are hopeless, great for quick snaps to remember something. so i rather a higher mp camera than a lower.
so with a 3.2mp camera I'll have to decrease the size at least 40% to minimize the noise in the picture.
end of the day all camera phones are hopeless, great for quick snaps to remember something. so i rather a higher mp camera than a lower.