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i wonder if someone could put together a source list with all of these companies and put together a price list.


if i see a thread saying the next iPhone contains 23$ worth of parts i will be disappointed haha
 
The camera issue...

3.2 MP will be good if its a GOOD 3.2 MP sensor and lens. A good 3.2 MP would blow away the average 5 MP that you see in cell phones.

As the typical Jesus-Phone-lovers arrogance crowd has glanced in here, let me show you some actual, real life pix of competitors:

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Sony Ericsson C905

Gallery

Shot

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LG KC910

Gallery

Shot

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Samsung S8300

Shot

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I know, that it's not about the pixels. I know it has an awful lot to do with the lens, the picturing algorithms and so on...but...

Don't try to argue down the issue, that a 3.2 MP camera is stoneage compared to the rest. Just like the 2 MP camera was 2 years ago.

And there was absolutely no need for those 'Facepalm' posts IMO.
 
Any runners out there?

7 pages in and no one has mentioned the Nike Plus sensor.

Does anyone know if the new iPhone will have this built in like the touch? I mean, if it doesn't, you're stuck using a different iPod to track your miles.

That doesn't make any sense to me. Doesn't anyone want the sensor built in??
 
Does this imply 1 camera or could they simply use one sensor to work with 2 lenses? Then just double the order of lenses.

Aside from that. If we are only talking about a better camera and the obvious more space/battery, I'm sticking with my 1st gen.
 
7 pages in and no one has mentioned the Nike Plus sensor.

Does anyone know if the new iPhone will have this built in like the touch? I mean, if it doesn't, you're stuck using a different iPod to track your miles.

That doesn't make any sense to me. Doesn't anyone want the sensor built in??

It would make sense if the sensor was built in in the next gen iPhone. There's not much that Apple would have only in the iPod touch but not in the iPhone.

And the iPhone is big enough as it is. I wonder how it would feel if you tried running with an iPhone and the Nike Plus adapter... Not very comfortable.
 
Nice quote from wiki explaining the technology but do you also know what it is used for in the iPhone?
I only know SAW-technology for making touchscreens (also implementing the piezo technology as described in wiki) but I don't think that is what it is used for.

SAW is all about filtering the RF spectrum to the frequencies you want to receive in as small of a package as possible. In cell phones they are generally used as bandpass filters with a center frequency dependent on you tech (gsm, cdma, etc) and your market. This filtering is to reduce the noise entering the receiver.
 
I'd like to see another button added to the side (below the volume up/down, perhaps) that could be programmed to be the camera snap. Using the on screen button is not real intuitive and I think it is a cause of most of my blurred iPhone pictures (not that I've taken a lot). Can't count how many (of the few) times I hit the home button instead of the snap virtual button when trying to take a pic in a hurry.

And it could be used by other developers for their own purposes. Just one is all that would be needed. I'm not looking for a slew of 4 or 5 buttons on each side.

I often use my phone in my car stereo by way of cable from headphone jack to aux-in jack on the stereo. With the phone sitting in the console tray it would be nice to be able use a button like that in the same way as the headphone button (pause/play and skip).
 
With all the new OLED-equipped toys spilling out of Japan I'm quite positive that there will be an OLED-screen in the upcoming iPhone. At least if Apple wishes to stay ahead of the crowd.

The possibility of an OLED display is one of the reasons I'm holding out for a new iPhone. Not the main reason, mind you - that would be a capacity upgrade to at least 32GB. And it's not a dealbreaker, either, just something I would love to see on an iPhone.

Thing is, how would having an OLED display affect outdoor visibility? Have they made any strides in that area?
 
nobody cares about megapixels, as long as they get rid of the fixed-focus lens and replace it by an autofocus system!!!

if they don't I won't get a new one!!! currently 1st gen.
 
New Name, Arn?

Did anybody just notice that this is the first post, ever to say arn's name is Arnold Kim? I knew his name from the NYTimes article, but he would still refer to himself as arn...

I wonder what spurred the change?
 
Did I just see CDMA?

You migth have. But not in this article.
It saids WCDMA
And if you read first page of this discussion you will know what that is.
But to summon it up, then it's a tecnoligi that is used in both 3G and CDMA.
 
the current 620mhz CPU in the iPhone & iPod Touch is underclocked.

it is set at 523 mhz in the 2G iPod Touch and
it is set at 412 mhz in the 2G iPhone.

All you have to do is turn up the current Samsung ARM processor, but then there goes battery life...
 
the current 620mhz CPU in the iPhone & iPod Touch is underclocked.

it is set at 523 mhz in the 2G iPod Touch and
it is set at 412 mhz in the 2G iPhone.

All you have to do is turn up the current Samsung ARM processor, but then there goes battery life...
What do you mean by "2G iPhone"?
2G iPhone = iPhone 3G?
 
Wonder if it would be usable on the CDMA networks we have here in the U.S....

I know you quoted a person saying what I'm about to say, but you missed the importance of what they said.

edit: Suffice to say - there are basically 2 networks
1) CDMA / CDMA2000
2) GSM / UMTS / WCDMA
They are not compatible.

edit: Yeah.. the below isn't very clear is it. Please ignore.
The phone supports WCDMA, and as such it is usable on the UMTS 3G like AT&T has (aka WCDMA). Same as the current iPhone 3G uses WCDMA.

For the sake of this discussion - WCDMA is an entirely different system to CDMA. AT&T's UMTS 3G network uses CDMA transmission technology (specifically Wideband CDMA)...
 
Wonder if it would be usable on the CDMA networks we have here in the U.S....

Well I haven seen any CDMA or CDMA2000 chips that is suppost to be uses in the next iPhone.
So I guess no.

Also remember WCDMA is a bad named becouse people think it is CDMA or CDMA2000

GSM, 3G and CDMA, CDMA2000 are still two differen systems.
one of the communication tectoligi used in both 3G and CDMA2000 is called WCDMA

very bad way to look at it is ie. 3G = Mac, and CDMA2000 = PC.
WCDMA is a codec to play MP3 files.
even if both machines can play MP3 files. you can not run a Mac program on a PC, and a PC program on a Mac (native anyway)
 
This may be closer to reality than you think.

Solar LCD Powered iPods, iPhones and Laptops?


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Patent Application

I would have to agree with many...there should be more solar technology on Apple's complete line of iPhones and iPods...it certainly does not have to be the main power source but with more and more devices being solid state and thus requiring (typically) less power, nobody can figure out how to plop on a few solar cells? Or include a small solar "pack" that you plug into the iPhone via USB or its power plug so you can get a free charge? Seriously. I know people aren't going to leave their $399 devices out in the sun for 5 hours unattended but what about all the times that you can be with the device in the sun such as at the beach or walking down the street or sitting on a bus/car getting sun? Or heck, just leave the thing on your car dashboard while you grab lunch for an hour.

I would like to point out that solar cells have been on calculators since the very early 80s. Granted calculators (then and now) don't compare to an iPhone in power consumption but come on...30 years hasn't improved solar cells' ability by 5 or 10 fold? Even 100 fold? :) But I would gather the flash based iPods use much less power than the iPhone.

Make 1/3 the back of the iPhone a solar cell/array that slowly (or quickly) charges the unit.

-Eric
 
Oled???

Any word on whether there will be a nice bright OLED screen on the new model?
 
I don't know if this list tells us that. But wasn't there some rumor lately about Apple orders for cameras of two different megapixel sizes? I want to say 3.2 and 5.0? If so, the big one could be in back and the small one for iChat on the front.

It would be very cool to have higher quality on the main camera, PLUS a user-facing camera, AND have both cams support video recording, editing and live transmission. (Wishful thinking.)

One of the articles a few days ago said the 5 megapixel camera they were ordering was for a future product, possibly a tablet? The list seems to have 1 lens and 1 sensor which would equal 1 camera.
 
3.2MP Camera

I did read Apple is making a China version of the Iphone, so maybe that is the one that will have the 3.2MP camera and the US version will have the 5MP. Everyone says MP dont matter, but i bet most people would buy the higher MP version if given a choice between the two, also Sony-Ericsson, LG and Samsung are all introducing 12MP camera phones this year. Granted, its all marketing but they do need to keep up in the spec wars, especially in the cell phone industry where all these other manufacturers are pumping out new phones every 3 to 6 months.
 
I did read Apple is making a China version of the Iphone, so maybe that is the one that will have the 3.2MP camera and the US version will have the 5MP. Everyone says MP dont matter, but i bet most people would buy the higher MP version if given a choice between the two, also Sony-Ericsson, LG and Samsung are all introducing 12MP camera phones this year. Granted, its all marketing but they do need to keep up in the spec wars, especially in the cell phone industry where all these other manufacturers are pumping out new phones every 3 to 6 months.

Should they keep up in these "spec wars" if it makes their phone worse?
 
As the typical Jesus-Phone-lovers arrogance crowd has glanced in here, let me show you some actual, real life pix of competitors:

----

Sony Ericsson C905

----

LG KC910

----

Samsung S8300

----

I know, that it's not about the pixels. I know it has an awful lot to do with the lens, the picturing algorithms and so on...but...

Don't try to argue down the issue, that a 3.2 MP camera is stoneage compared to the rest. Just like the 2 MP camera was 2 years ago.

And there was absolutely no need for those 'Facepalm' posts IMO.

I'm not sure the resolution of any of those cameras, but all of those pics look pretty lousy to me. If they're 8, 9, 10Mpix, they certainly bolster the argument that optics, processing, etc. make the image, not the resolution. Honestly, they don't seem as good as an old (very old) 2M pixel point and shoot...
 
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