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Ridly said:
This should be solar powered.

Maybe not solar powered but chargeable via solar or assisted by solar would be nice providing it doesn't add too much bulk. That said, solar is a bit too expensive and not really wanted by many people on a phone right now.
 
So what is on this list ( besides a 3.2 mega pixel camera ) that would make me go out and upgrade my current 3G iPhone?

Am I missing something? I've read a lot of "can't wait until this is on the phone." But I'm not seeing where the hardware is matching up with the wish lists.

This is a serious question.

You're not missing anything. Nothing here is worth an upgrade, although a lot of people are getting stimulated about the camera.

If you want to know the real reason to upgrade, ditch this thread and check out these two previous threads:

Video-In and Magnetometers Could Introduce Interesting iPhone App Possibilites

iPhone Video Recording Interface, Digital Compass, Voice Control and Auto-Focus Camera

The digital compass (magnetometer) is the real reason to upgrade. The 3G and original can still take pictures, however, they won't be able to touch what's in store for the new model, in terms of AR apps.

iPhone AR (Augmented Reality)
 
I just think it's bizarre they're not offering a higher mega pixel camera. I think with the iphone they have actually just been holding back on certain features so we all want to upgrade to each new model. Probably the only reason people will upgrade is for video/higher pixel and surely they could have offered that on the first 3G phone. :(

I will definitely not be upgrading if that's all there is to the upgrade. Actually unless it's a bit faster, and has an FM transmitter, there isn't anything temping in the update for me at all.
 
This should be solar powered.

Maybe not solar powered but chargeable via solar or assisted by solar would be nice providing it doesn't add too much bulk. That said, solar is a bit too expensive and not really wanted by many people on a phone right now.

This may be closer to reality than you think.

Solar LCD Powered iPods, iPhones and Laptops?


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Patent Application
 
I will definitely not be upgrading if that's all there is to the upgrade. Actually unless it's a bit faster, and has an FM transmitter, there isn't anything temping in the update for me at all.

I agree, there is nothing that I see listed that gets me exited about upgrading.

I was really hoping that there would be.

Let's see what else they have up their sleeve.... netBook or Tablet perhaps.
 
I will definitely not be upgrading if that's all there is to the upgrade. Actually unless it's a bit faster, and has an FM transmitter, there isn't anything temping in the update for me at all.

I agree, there is nothing that I see listed that gets me exited about upgrading.

I was really hoping that there would be.

Let's see what else they have up their sleeve.... netBook or Tablet perhaps.

Guys, as Voidness pointed out to me:

This is obviously an incomplete list. No mention of CPU, screen, battery, enclosure, accelerometer, ambient light sensor, proximity sensor, vibrator, etc.

I'm also hoping for a magnetometer. A lot of interesting applications can be developed for it. :)

Again, check out some very recent threads to see what may be in store:

802.11n

FM Reception/Transmission


Video Recording, Digital Compass, Voice Control, Auto-Focus

Augmented Reality Apps

If any of this is true, there's definitely a reason to upgrade.
 
this is by no means a completed list and shouldn't be treated as such.

In addition to the better camera the new iphone will have a magnetometer, 32GB and the ability to record videos. These things are virtually guarenteed. Also I have heard talking about faster wifi speeds and a faster processor speed. In addition to this, who knows what else apple has up their sleeves.

You can rest assured that Apple will make an iphone which causes all us simple minded 3G-ers out there to run out, break our contracts, and buy the new iphone.

But not I. I shall hold strong! Summer of twenty-ten bring my iphone dreams to a reality!!! :)

Edit: You beat me! haha. Oh and good catch about the fm transmitter. I almost forgot about that
 
this is by no means a completed list and shouldn't be treated as such.

In addition to the better camera the new iphone will have a magnetometer, 32GB and the ability to record videos. These things are virtually guarenteed. Also I have heard talking about faster wifi speeds and a faster processor speed.

You heard talking?

it was literally all over the news :confused:
 
SAW Filter

Does anyone understand what the SAW filter is for?

I only know Surface Acoustic Wave for touchscreens but I thought the iPhone has a capacitive touchscreen, or doesn't it?
 
Does anyone understand what the SAW filter is for?

I only know Surface Acoustic Wave for touchscreens but I thought the iPhone has a capacitive touchscreen, or doesn't it?

SAW filters

SAW (surface acoustic wave) filters are electromechanical devices commonly used in radio frequency applications. Electrical signals are converted to a mechanical wave in a device constructed of a piezoelectric crystal or ceramic; this wave is delayed as it propagates across the device, before being converted back to an electrical signal by further electrodes. The delayed outputs are recombined to produce a direct analog implementation of a finite impulse response filter. This hybrid filtering technique is also found in an analog sampled filter. SAW filters are limited to frequencies up to 3 GHz.


It's a type of electronic filter technology.

Electronic filters are electronic circuits which perform signal processing functions, specifically to remove unwanted frequency components from the signal and/or to enhance wanted ones.
 
The camera I could really care less about (I have digital camera for that). 3.2 would be a slight upgrade, but nothing that's going to make me go out and replace my current iPhone 3G.

I'm kind of "hoping" that the new iPhone is only just a "slight" to the current 3G, not enough to warrant me upgrading my current iPhone a year into my AT&T contract. It would be nice (for me) that a whole new, "beat-the-hell-out-of-the-current-3G-iPhone" iPhone would be released June 2010. :D
 
The camera I could really care less about (I have digital camera for that). 3.2 would be a slight upgrade, but nothing that's going to make me go out and replace my current iPhone 3G.

I'm kind of "hoping" that the new iPhone is only just a "slight" to the current 3G, not enough to warrant me upgrading my current iPhone a year into my AT&T contract. It would be nice (for me) that a whole new, "beat-the-hell-out-of-the-current-3G-iPhone" iPhone would be released June 2010. :D

All of us day-one iPhone classic users beg to differ. Our contracts are up on June 29 and we can't wait to get a "beat-the-hell-out-of-the-current-3G-iPhone" right now. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll release a "beat-the-hell-out-of-the-2009-iPhone" in 2010.
 
I wonder if its the same shell, i was kind of hoping for a new shell, a different look.

There was a story a while back that was supposed to be a spy shot of the new case. It looked like halfway between aluminum and plastic (not as shiny) maybe even some kind of graphite alloy. It also looked like they were using the unibody production technique. I think that would be pretty cool, some kind of ceramic or graphite material so radio still goes through it but a little higher quality and stronger than plastic.
 
people who thought that there was going to be a 5.0MP camera just had too-high-in-the-sky-pie expectations. i'll see it the same day they put a dedicated GPU in the macbook line.
 
SAW filters

SAW (surface acoustic wave) filters are electromechanical devices commonly used in radio frequency applications. Electrical signals are converted to a mechanical wave in a device constructed of a piezoelectric crystal or ceramic; this wave is delayed as it propagates across the device, before being converted back to an electrical signal by further electrodes. The delayed outputs are recombined to produce a direct analog implementation of a finite impulse response filter. This hybrid filtering technique is also found in an analog sampled filter. SAW filters are limited to frequencies up to 3 GHz.


It's a type of electronic filter technology.

Electronic filters are electronic circuits which perform signal processing functions, specifically to remove unwanted frequency components from the signal and/or to enhance wanted ones.

Nice quote from wiki explaining the technology but do you also know what it is used for in the iPhone?
I only know SAW-technology for making touchscreens (also implementing the piezo technology as described in wiki) but I don't think that is what it is used for.
 
people who thought that there was going to be a 5.0MP camera just had too-high-in-the-sky-pie expectations. i'll see it the same day they put a dedicated GPU in the macbook line.

I seriously thought that the 3.2MP sensor would be for the iPod Touch 3rd Gen and the 5MP sensor would be for the iPhone 3rd Gen. That would be really sweet for us Touch users.
And I'm still kinda clinging to that thought.
Seeing as these are still just rumours, I'm hoping to be dazzled by [insert name]'s keynote on WWDC '09.
 
Constructive input.


Seriously though, 3.2MP will be fine as long as the lens etc is good enough. If it can takes pictures like that chap's Sharp phone, it'll be great.

I'd really like to hear some info about battery life, and the casing of the phone itself.

Yeah it is constructive.. 3.2MP would be yet another let down.. Might need to ask some of the slaves who are making it about the other parts.. Everything else is rumours
 
Why are you lot still arguing about megapixels? 3.2 is AMPLE for anything viewed on screen, and even prints fine up to A4. The only reason you need more pixels is if you want the latent detail there if/when want to zoom in and blow up parts of the image. Other than that, it's the lenses and quality of the optics that govern the image quality.
 
The camera I could really care less about (I have digital camera for that). 3.2 would be a slight upgrade, but nothing that's going to make me go out and replace my current iPhone 3G.

I'm kind of "hoping" that the new iPhone is only just a "slight" to the current 3G, not enough to warrant me upgrading my current iPhone a year into my AT&T contract. It would be nice (for me) that a whole new, "beat-the-hell-out-of-the-current-3G-iPhone" iPhone would be released June 2010. :D
Right, and for the rest of us, I really do hope that your selfishness is rewarded with a great new phone in 2009 that you are pathetically jealous of.
 
Nice quote from wiki explaining the technology but do you also know what it is used for in the iPhone?
I only know SAW-technology for making touchscreens (also implementing the piezo technology as described in wiki) but I don't think that is what it is used for.

I'm not exactly sure, but my guess would be that it's used to cut out unwanted wireless noise (both audible and data). Maybe more specifically to analyze, interpret and manipulate digital signals into recognizable sound or images.
 
people who thought that there was going to be a 5.0MP camera just had too-high-in-the-sky-pie expectations.

Yes, it *is* too much to ask for Apple's high end phone to be competitive with a now-discontinued two year old Nokia.

Although really they need to worry about the picture quality (guessing a lens issue) rather than just pixel count. I just don't see a huge demand for a higher density smudge.
 
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