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3D is so 2010-ish.

Holograms people... we want holograms.

Beyond 3D and holograms, I want an iPad that replaces Facetime with a real Transporter Room app. I want to be able to beam friends and relatives to my current location and time continuum.

Apple, stay ahead of the game.
 
off switch or not, you have to realize that the more companies will be manufacturing 3D devices, the more companies will create 3D content for these devices

it's a crappy circle...

Who cares if someone creates 3D content for a device? Again, explain the negative here? How does this hurt you as a 2D viewer. Unless they start making 3D only content, your experience should not change.

As much as I don't like 3D stuff being shoved down my face, I also like the choice of being able to view something in 3D, rather than not having the choice at all.

I find it strange how there's so much angst against something that is completely optional to the user. That's like me being annoyed someone else is able to turn on Bluetooth.
 
Because it's a ridiculous feature that only retards, who have been brainwashed into thinking it's cool, want, but the rest of us who will never use it (or even go out of their way to avoid it) will pay for.

The human brain is capable of decoding depth out of an image using a myriad of other clues (such as occlusion) and the use of the stereoscopic effect is, in my opinion, overrated. It just results in blurred or jarred motion and a crap viewing experience.

Just because you might find 3D fun doesn't make you "brainwashed". In fact... because you seem to be so anti-3D... you might be the one that is brainwashed :eek:
 
If you want to see an example of 3D tech done right, go look at the lenticular screen on the Fujifilm W3. Everyone I've shown this camera to has been amazed.

I wouldn't mind if the iPad incorporated a 3D display. The thing is, the 3D industry is so new there's not a lot you can do with it besides take pictures and watch movies.

The tech is also expensive and anything that needs glasses (99% of the viewers out there) is just crappy technology trying to capitalize on early adopters. Lenticular displays, eventually with face tracking, are where the tech will grow towards. And the number of devices with good lenticular displays on the market right now is pitiful
- Fuji W3
- Nintendo 3DS
- Sony Bloggie 3D
- JVC GS-TD1
- Toshiba's Glasses Free TV

Usually Apple doesn't jump into markets for the hype so I'd think if they were gonna put a 3D display on an iPad, they'd have some additional plans in the background to make it worth their while.
 
I swore to myself When I bought iPad 2 that I'd wait for iPad 4 to upgrade again...don't know if I'll be able to pass up a 3d iPad tho!
 
This is what needs to go down.

With this 3D facetracking display being rumored, the first thing I thought of was the future of iPad gaming.
Imagine playing a game, where instead of moving the right analog to change the camera angle, you just move your head to look around the corner.
(come on everybodys tried it with there tv at least once :p)

But then I came upon the fact that the placing of the cam on the ipad would pretty much prevent landscape mode since your thumb would be in the way.
Then of course, theres the new smart cover or any docking system, you could prop it up in landscape mode and use some sort of bluetooth controller or maybe an iPhone as a controller to your iPad.

I would be so impressed.
 
LOL! This is just a Hollywood studio's desperate wet dream.
They are realizing that 3D is turning into a fad instead of the money cow they were expecting. With a few exceptions the studios are losing a lot of money with 3D and now hope Apple will turn their turd into gold...
 
LOL! This is just a Hollywood studio's desperate wet dream.
They are realizing that 3D is turning into a fad instead of the money cow they were expecting. With a few exceptions the studios are losing a lot of money with 3D and now hope Apple will turn their turd into gold...

I agree
 
Well that's interesting........and wouldn't that be an interesting reason for a smaller screen (to better accommodate "glasses free" 3D.

A lot of smoke here....I couldn't figure out why so many rumors had the iPad 2 at a smaller screen (despite Jobs stance on the issue at iPad 1 launch) and I could see that slipping first, without context to why.

7" iPad is meh.

7" 3D iPad is definitely less meh, but unless they bring more, it won't be enough for me to jump from the 2....check back though in 6 months....

P.s. Apple - I know a "game" system is coming...whether it's this mobile device or a console (ala Apple TV mutant)....bring it!
 
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There's nothing good about 3D, and nothing good about clueless bloggers who "think it's great!"
 
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There's nothing good about 3D, and nothing good about clueless bloggers who "think it's great!"

Totally...our eyes should only see 2D as well.
 
Time for the headaches.


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Well that's interesting........and wouldn't that be an interesting reason for a smaller screen (to better accommodate "glasses free" 3D.

For a glasses free screen, you wouldn't need a smaller screen. You'd just need a resolution with twice the width, because you'd have left/right images superimposed on each other.

And now that I've thought about it, a lenticular screen wouldn't work on the iPad because the 3D effect wouldn't work in both landscape and portrait modes.

So this 3D rumor is BS
 
When I look at the graphic (http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/) for the 2011 WWDC, it makes me think that the 3D rumor may be accurate. Note the many 3D patents that Apple has been awarded over the past couple of years for precisely this type of thing. And the fact that Apple has used their graphics on prior occasions to tease what would be revealed at the event - most recently, for the iPad2 and how they teased the SmartCover...

I dont know if 3D is dependent on hardware (most of Apples products have front facing cameras at this point at least), or if it can be driven by software alone on existing devices.

Thoughts?
 
When I look at the graphic (http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/) for the 2011 WWDC, it makes me think that the 3D rumor may be accurate. Note the many 3D patents that Apple has been awarded over the past couple of years for precisely this type of thing. And the fact that Apple has used their graphics on prior occasions to tease what would be revealed at the event - most recently, for the iPad2 and how they teased the SmartCover...

I dont know if 3D is dependent on hardware (most of Apples products have front facing cameras at this point at least), or if it can be driven by software alone on existing devices.

Thoughts?

If you're going to take a 3D picture, the best way to do it would be to use two cameras separated by a distance approximating the space in between your eyes. Both cameras take a picture at the same time. You now have two images taken at slightly different angles and after superimposing them, you get a 3D image.

If you want to display that image (or any 3D movie) without glasses, you need a lenticular screen, which would take the two images and using refraction, direct one image to the left eye and the other image to the right eye. This is what the Nintendo 3DS screen does.

So yeah, 3D is hardware dependent. To take a 3D picture/video, you'd need 2 cameras instead of 1. You'd also need a lenticular screen. And this is why I think the 3D rumor is BS: the iPad is made to be used in either portrait or landscape mode.

Once you rotate the iPad 90 degrees, the horizontally spaced cameras are now vertically spaced and no longer work. Which means you'd need to add a third camera. This means a 3D iPad would have 6 cameras built in - 3 on the front and 3 on the back. That's a lot of redesign and I doubt they have enough space to cram 6 cameras in the unit.

On top of that, once you rotate the iPad 90 degrees, the lenticular screen is no longer refracting images to your left and right eye - now they're going up and down so the 3D image doesn't work. I'm guessing it's possible to have a screen that refracts images in 4 directions but I don't think a screen like that has been invented yet.

Just my two cents
 
So many conservatives here...when did 3D become the new Osama?

3D = Very Good.

Whilst I sympathize for those with an eye disorder (very rare) and those who complain of headaches, others (overwhelming majority) do not suffer these conditions.

In any case, as with the 3DS and all other formats, the device or software would allow the feature to be turned on/off.

So be cool and look forward to the Holodeck. Mmm'kay?
 
So many conservatives here...when did 3D become the new Osama?

3D = Very Good.

Whilst I sympathize for those with an eye disorder (very rare) and those who complain of headaches, others (overwhelming majority) do not suffer these conditions.

People don't need an eye disorder to feel uncomfortable watching 3D films.
Evolution simply has not prepared us for the optical challenge of this artificial pseudo 3D technology which cannot be found anywhere in nature.

To quote Walter Murch (Apple fan and Oscar winning Final Cut Pro editing guru):

The biggest problem with 3D, though, is the "convergence/focus" issue. A couple of the other issues -- darkness and "smallness" -- are at least theoretically solvable. But the deeper problem is that the audience must focus their eyes at the plane of the screen -- say it is 80 feet away. This is constant no matter what.
But their eyes must converge at perhaps 10 feet away, then 60 feet, then 120 feet, and so on, depending on what the illusion is. So 3D films require us to focus at one distance and converge at another. And 600 million years of evolution has never presented this problem before. All living things with eyes have always focussed and converged at the same point.

Why 3D doesn't work and never will. Case closed.
 
As I said in another thread:

3D is a big, huge, massive, gigantic gimmick, and fad. It doesn't serve any practical purpose, it's just another useless "feature" to slap on the feature list to make the consumers think they're buying the greatest thing ever.

:cool:
 
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