Next iPhone Could Bring Dual Bluetooth Audio Connection Support

[curtvaughan]

You seem to be getting your wish. More lenses, notch. Where I don't think you will get your wish is firing Tim Cook, nor do I think you are prescient when you suggest Apple will fade into obscurity. And if it does, it is out of our hands.

When SJ changed the company name from Apple Computer Company to Apple, Inc., that was a predictor for where Apple is today. It is no longer really a "computer company". It is a seller of tech devices for the masses. It has gotten out of the server business, the Pro line computer business, hangs by a thread with Mac laptops and desktops, and mainly deals with iOS devices in the now, services and AI/electric cars/?? for the future. Steve was right. It's now Apple, Inc., and it has only peripheral and historical interest in the computer hardware and systems of Apple Computer Company. My take.

 

[code-m]

You can deny, till the cows come home, that touch id on the 5s in 2013, did not reshaped the biometric security on smartphones.

Reshape what, the evolution of security from the passcode on a mobile device. Laptops had fingerprint sensors and face recognitions sensors long before Apple incorporated either in iPhone. This is nothing new.

No, that's what you are claiming. While people have varied opinions on the matter, this is all in eyes of the beholder.

Fair enough.

My family broke the phones for various reasons and while, not free to replace, they were basically inexpensive to replace. Replacing a modern phone is not inexpensive or cheap. I have no problems holding my max with the silicon case, which not only looks nice, but protects the phone.

Modern phone, are we comparing iPhone to the many Android phones offered. If that is the case (pun) there are many Android phones with similar and premium design, build, features compared to iPhone.

You might as well admit you don't know why apple went back to glass. My old 6s barely lasted a day, but my max at the end of the is usually 50% or more, which means in theory, I can get two full days out of it. Is that everybody's use case. Does every phone last the same especially when the usages are different?

Not sure where your claim of form over function comes from, but your counter-arguments hold no water.

As per your own quote, is this the Apple battery silicone case for XS Max, if so you are adding additional battery capacity to your XS Max usage and you are comparing a present day silicone, LPDDR ram, iOS power management features, etc with what your Max provides you. This is comparing the 6S without battery degradation, I presume.

I have no problems holding my max with the silicon case, which not only looks nice, but protects the phone.

 

[Bawstun]

You seem to be getting your wish. More lenses, notch. Where I don't think you will get your wish is firing Tim Cook, nor do I think you are prescient when you suggest Apple will fade into obscurity. And if it does, it is out of our hands.

It is NOT out of our hands. Apple has gotten lazy and over-confident while sitting on their mountains of cash.

MARKETSHARE is all that matters. Brand image.

Are you going to be the “Starbucks” of tech, or not? That’s the question Apple needs to answer. If yes, then a new design team needs to be brought in and Cook needs to go. The focus on classic, pristine design and form function needs to return.

Know what makes it even worse? That the Pixel 3 will likely outrank it and take better photos. And their camera looks NOTHING like what Apple’s monstrosity does.

It’s literally already been proven that this horrible design isn’t necessary to take great photos. And yet, here we are. Another failure on Apple’s part.

Because make no mistake - that design is a failure. The housing is atrocious and is a complete failure on multiple levels of design, and frankly just should not be. That design should not exist, it should not be something we’ve ever discussed or put into our minds.

Yet here we are.

Why?

Tim Cook.

 

[I7guy]

Reshape what, the evolution of security from the passcode on a mobile device. Laptops had fingerprint sensors and face recognitions sensors long before Apple incorporated either in iPhone. This is nothing new.

So in essence, you do not think touch id raised the bar on biometric security on mobile devices? OK, YMMV comes to mind. Fully agree finger print readers existed before smartphones, as did most of the tech that was adapted.

Modern phone, are we comparing iPhone to the many Android phones offered. If that is the case (pun) there are many Android phones with similar and premium design, build, features compared to iPhone.

I wouldn't drop any modern phone as it is mostly possible it will get damaged and will be relatively expensive to replace, thin, thick, glass or aluminum. I wouldn't want to drop an $$$ device.

As per your own quote, is this the Apple battery silicone case for XS Max, if so you are adding additional battery capacity to your XS Max usage and you are comparing a present day silicone, LPDDR ram, iOS power management features, etc with what your Max provides you. This is comparing the 6S without battery degradation, I presume.

Huh, what? It's no secret bigger phones with bigger batteries will last longer than smaller phones with smaller phones. But this is about having great battery life on a phone that you are claiming is subject to a thin fetish. I'm not adding additional battery capacity, the silicone case is just a case.

It is NOT out of our hands. Apple has gotten lazy and over-confident while sitting on their mountains of cash.

MARKETSHARE is all that matters. Brand image.

Are you going to be the “Starbucks” of tech, or not? That’s the question Apple needs to answer. If yes, then a new design team needs to be brought in and Cook needs to go. The focus on classic, pristine design and form function needs to return.

Know what makes it even worse? That the Pixel 3 will likely outrank it and take better photos. And their camera looks NOTHING like what Apple’s monstrosity does.

It’s literally already been proven that this horrible design isn’t necessary to take great photos. And yet, here we are. Another failure on Apple’s part.

Because make no mistake - that design is a failure. The housing is atrocious and is a complete failure on multiple levels of design, and frankly just should not be. That design should not exist, it should not be something we’ve ever discussed or put into our minds.

Yet here we are.

Why?

Tim Cook.

Does market share matter for android, which is a collective of many manufacturers, each one scraping for the left overs from Apple. Maybe Apple will return or not to the "old school" apple...who knows such things. In the meantime I do enjoy my Apple products.

 

[code-m]

I wouldn't drop any modern phone as it is mostly possible it will get damaged and will be relatively expensive to replace, thin, thick, glass or aluminum. I wouldn't want to drop an $$$ device.

Glass displays/screens will crack and/or shatter; so what does Apple go an do, that's correct put glass on the back of the phone as well (brilliant)

Aluminum will not break, corners may dent or scratch, more durable. The iPhone with aluminum just needed a better texture and coating and it would be fine, however no Qi. Dropping a $50-$200 Android phone made of glass and a combination of either plastic or metal would not concern me if the XR were to fall and crack or shatter the rear glass or screen. I don't use a case for any of my Android phones, iPhone yeah its expensive that is the only reason. Drop the price and I would not care.

Huh, what? It's no secret bigger phones with bigger batteries will last longer than smaller phones with smaller phones. But this is about having great battery life on a phone that you are claiming is subject to a thin fetish. I'm not adding additional battery capacity, the silicone case is just a case.

Not necessarily, a bigger phone can have its battery shrink in physical size or capacity, take for example iPhone X compared to XS. Bigger phone does not equate bigger battery. Fair enough you don't have the battery silicone case, I was not completely sure thus I asked to confirm. Nonetheless you have not covered battery degradation, silicone, LPDDR, etc.

Does market share matter for android, which is a collective of many manufacturers, each one scraping for the left overs from Apple. Maybe Apple will return or not to the "old school" apple...who knows such things. In the meantime I do enjoy my Apple products.

Samsungs Galaxy Tab S5e is a great sAMOLED tablet, my biggest complaint with Samsung is to just stick with stock Android and get rid of the extra Samsung branded apps and store, not needed.

Yes, I have both an iPad and Android tablet.

 

[I7guy]

I suspect I'm about 10 or 15 years too old to have experienced the Renaissance of the Walkman. It was released in 1979, by which time I was in my late 20s, programming with PDP-11's and having a glancing acquaintance with some Apple "desktop" computer in the works. Before the advent of the Walkman, the cool kids were, in cliched manner depicted in movies like Cheech and Chong, walking down the street with boom boxes perched on their shoulders, blasting into their (and everyone else's in close proximity) ears. Memories.

As different as our views could be, it seems, we have a similar type of background. My first job I was entering programs in the switch register of the DEC PDP-11s. That company had it made and faded into oblivion.

 

[JamieLannister]

lol, trickle feeding you "features" in another iteration of that trash called iOS. What's next? USB mouse/keyboard support? Maybe 10 years later iOS will support a real "file system" and we'll come back and say how innovative apple is!

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

I thought we would have dual BT headphone support in all BT5.0 Apple devices by now. E.g. from the ATV4, kids sleeping and we wanting to enjoy full audio with wifey - still no go. Or when sharing a large iPad Pro with wifey while flying. Dual BT audio should be fully possible with BT5 already now, no? Only a software development away...

Well, of course, you still can achieve that. Lightning to headphone jack dongle. Headphone jack to double headphone jack splitter... Be courageous, embrace the Double Dongle!

 

[code-m]

lol, trickle feeding you "features" in another iteration of that trash called iOS. What's next? USB mouse/keyboard support? Maybe 10 years later iOS will support a real "file system" and we'll come back and say how innovative apple is!

Lol, one cannot insert a thumb drive into an iOS device without needing a manufacturers app, the built-in files app should mount this instantly, yeah that’s right the iPad is a computer, what a joke.

Use the cloud Apple says, then turns around and offers up a 1TB local storage option.

This company will turn on its words and forget it ever said a thing.
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Well, of course, you still can achieve that. Lightning to headphone jack dongle. Headphone jack to double headphone jack splitter... Be courageous, embrace the Double Dongle!

Sounds kinky

 

[Smartass]

Didnt Samsung Galaxy S3 or S4 have this feature like... 6 years ago? Why is a feature like this even news? Oh yeah thats right, it's because somebody in Apple finally realised that Not-Wanting-People-To-Share-Their-Apple-Music-Songs-with-friends-over-same-phone really isnt a good reason to omit this feature from a phone anymore.

 

[loybond]

I've actually used a splitter with an iPad on flights so my then gf and I could watch movies together.

Well, of course, you still can achieve that. Lightning to headphone jack dongle. Headphone jack to double headphone jack splitter... Be courageous, embrace the Double Dongle!

That's what I want most from an iPad right now... being able to plug in and use external storage. The cloud storage is meh... you need decent internet for it to work. iCloud for photos works pretty messed up imo... while traveling I ran out of space on my 128GB iPhone of the time, and turned on the icloud photos feature. It took forever to browse recent photos/videos and even longer to send them via imessage, if they were able to be sent at all. I can't understand how people can use that feature.

Lol, one cannot insert a thumb drive into an iOS device without needing a manufacturers app, the built-in files app should mount this instantly, yeah that’s right the iPad is a computer, what a joke.

Use the cloud Apple says, then turns around and offers up a 1TB local storage option.

This company will turn on its words and forget it ever said a thing.
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Sounds kinky

 

[gmarm]

For some reason this feels like a feature Samsung would deliver, rather than Apple.

 

[Shanghaichica]

For some reason this feels like a feature Samsung would deliver, rather than Apple.

Samsung have already delivered this feature. However this isn’t a Samsung feature. It’s a feature of Bluetooth 5.0. Apple just haven’t enabled it yet.

 

[DMinTX]

I would like to see the ability to stream music to a Bluetooth device and Airplay devices at the same time.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Samsung have already delivered this feature. However this isn’t a Samsung feature. It’s a feature of Bluetooth 5.0. Apple just haven’t enabled it yet.

Damn I hadn’t known this was a thing. Sweet! No more having earwax sharing

 

[robbietop]

This is a lot more interesting and needed than a dark mode or some silly third camera we don't need.

 

[Optheduim]

Bring this feature to Apple TV and you have a happy man!!

Very surprised / disappointed to find that Samsung already does this!

 

[code-m]

That's what I want most from an iPad right now... being able to plug in and use external storage. The cloud storage is meh... you need decent internet for it to work. iCloud for photos works pretty messed up imo... while traveling I ran out of space on my 128GB iPhone of the time, and turned on the icloud photos feature. It took forever to browse recent photos/videos and even longer to send them via imessage, if they were able to be sent at all. I can't understand how people can use that feature.

I don’t use iCloud for much other than to sync a few apps across my devices. iCloud in general works great for incremental vice monumental to update frequently. Think of it as a constant save feature while conducting word processing. In your case you take a few pics and it starts uploading to iCloud as soon as there is wifi or data available.

I find iCloud slow for anything that does not require simple data set syncing.

 

[alexandr]

i would much more like to see the option to connect one headphone to one device, and the second to another.

 

[mingravity]

I thought we would have dual BT headphone support in all BT5.0 Apple devices by now. E.g. from the ATV4, kids sleeping and we wanting to enjoy full audio with wifey - still no go. Or when sharing a large iPad Pro with wifey while flying. Dual BT audio should be fully possible with BT5 already now, no? Only a software development away...

I am not sure its related to BT5 as such. right now you can connect multiple BT headphones to MacBooks (mine being BT4).
So something tell me its to do with hardware than software. Connecting multiple BT devices has been existing since long, earphone + mouse + keyboard. Its the audio that make the difference.

 

[tridley68]

Sweet hope this is true.

 

[huffhuff]

Only this morning did I have a funny glitch. AirPods in, one was giving audio from ATV, the other a podcast from my phone. Bizarre.

 

[marc1184]

I'd rather have my Airpods be able to connect to 2 devices simultaneously. My Bose QC35's can do this, so hopefully Apple can implement this. It'd be nice to listen to my iPad Pro, and then be able to pick up a phone call on my iphone without having to manually switch.

 

[spinedoc77]

This is awesome, I always wondered why I couldn't connect 2 sets of earphones to my devices so 2 people could enjoy at the same time. I wish this would filter down to things like televisions and receivers as well.
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Apple copying Sony!!!
Original walkman had 2 headphone jacks, thinking people want to listen together, then went on with 1.

Wow that is very cool. What a different world, if we saw that label "Dolls" now Sony would be out of business.

 

[bigpics]

Come on 5G is more important than this.

5G is premature. The available chipsets run hot, suck down power and require more battery and phone mass.

Plus less than 3-4% of the country will be on 5G by the time the 2020 phones - with next gen 5G modems - are released.

So not to worry on that score.