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Horrible battery in those Android phones with LTE!! Talk about future proof....hahaha :rolleyes:
Excuses, excuses... How many times we have heard them? Hahaha :rolleyes:

Motorola Maxx LTE vs. iPhone 4S:

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BTW, both Galaxy Note LTE and Galaxy S3 LTE offer "horrible" 5+ hours of web use and 10+ hours of talk time. What its gonna be on iPhone 5 LTE?
 
Excuses, excuses... How many times we have heard them? Hahaha :rolleyes:

Motorola Maxx LTE vs. iPhone 4S:

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BTW, both Galaxy Note LTE and Galaxy S3 LTE offer "horrible" 5+ hours of web use and 10+ hours of talk time. What its gonna be on iPhone 5 LTE?

Go read what I posted!! You said android phones were "future proof" last year when LTE rolled out so I was referring to android phones last year with their horrible battery life which to me is not future proof!!
I never make excuses!! I never said LTE phones NOW have bad battery life!! Don't be pulling up brand new phones that barely came out when you were clearly talking about last year!!
Thank you I win
 
The new Qualcom chip has much better efficiency. I'm not sure that any shipping phone is using it, yet.

You have a 500MB limit and you are worried about super-high-end LTE speed? Why? I have about 6 apps on my phone that would each exceed your limit to download over LTE. This is the problem today, the limits make the speed a non-issue for most people.

I personally opted for this plan because I have a 50MBit landline at home and most of the time use my WLAN at home or at work. No benefit in using mobile data. I barely ever go over my limit - but next week I will be off, so I guess this will be the first time I get throttled from my 21 MBbit/s speed.

Nope, I put a regular SIM into the iPad.it is a free secondary card coming with my phone contract. I am not aware of pure data contracts here. Of course, LTE is only data, as they did not manage to make phonecalls with it yet. Thats why I'm not understanding the whole LTE thing in phones, what it is good for. I do not know about the new iPhone5, but I do know that if you would have (non optainable) 100Mbit/s on the HTC or the LG it would mean nothing, they could not even prozess that data in real time. And I find 10 Dollars (or Euros) for a few Minutes "full speed" still too much.

You obviously did not use any LTE Network in Germny yet and if, you where stationary looking at a snapshot. Get into a ICE and start watching a HD stream from your office server, then you see the real life LTE. You will be amazed that there are not advertising regulators shutting those campaigns down.

First of all - the benefit - as we both know, currently voice over LTE is not possible. Therefore it would be a godsent for the battery, if the LTE-radio part would switch on, do all the syncing in about 2-3 seconds and then switch off again. Same applies for webpage browsing: Switch on - load the full page in a second - switch off.

Second - the ICE example. Who gives a flying **** about this stupid example. Why should I cut into my personal data amount, when there is a free WLAN Hotspot in that train?

Being on a train in the Ruhrgebiet nevertheless won't be any problem, as there is about 75% coverage. You simply don't grasp the concept of a roll-out. Same thing in the last discussion with you. The rollout happens, and it happens at incredible pace. I currently don't use LTE in a phone as I wanted the Galaxy S3 and didn't want to wait for the LTE variant - nevertheless it was a tough decision not to get the HTC One XL.

But you are just like the people, samcraig characterized earlier. If the iPhone5 won't offer LTE it's not a big deal as no one uses it in your world - and if it is rolled out with LTE then it is the "pioneer of a new technology" and the best since sliced bread.

Too predictable - sorry.
 
But you are just like the people, samcraig characterized earlier. If the iPhone5 won't offer LTE it's not a big deal as no one uses it in your world - and if it is rolled out with LTE then it is the "pioneer of a new technology" and the best since sliced bread.

Too predictable - sorry.

You would be wrong. I rather complain if it is not possible to shut it off. I aready complained that 3G was always on. Its a PHONE. I'm only every other month in Germany and by the time LTE is available here or in England (I'm more often there) or France, iPhone 6 or 7 will be out.
That said, I would not mind having a global LTE chip in my next iPad. There it makes sense. On a phone I will not be convinced for a long time to pay huge amounts extra for something that essencially is already there.
 
Again we have to debate about phone comparability with other providers!

Top 3 U.S service providers to hate, Cable(TV)/Internet provider, and
Wireless Cell Phone provider.

They are just eating away your arms and legs each passing day (AT&T, Verizon...), while the rest of the world gets better. What's sad is that, even the third world country underdeveloped ones provides sim-swapping possible to any provider of your choice, better plan, lower rate, free incoming call/text and of course contract free.

Canada is even worse bro.
 
android phones were built future proof and the "future" actually was not very distant: Lte roll out started last year, not "finally starting".
lol.

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I personally opted for this plan because I have a 50MBit landline at home and most of the time use my WLAN at home or at work. No benefit in using mobile data. I barely ever go over my limit - but next week I will be off, so I guess this will be the first time I get throttled from my 21 MBbit/s speed.



First of all - the benefit - as we both know, currently voice over LTE is not possible. Therefore it would be a godsent for the battery, if the LTE-radio part would switch on, do all the syncing in about 2-3 seconds and then switch off again. Same applies for webpage browsing: Switch on - load the full page in a second - switch off.

Second - the ICE example. Who gives a flying **** about this stupid example. Why should I cut into my personal data amount, when there is a free WLAN Hotspot in that train?

Being on a train in the Ruhrgebiet nevertheless won't be any problem, as there is about 75% coverage. You simply don't grasp the concept of a roll-out. Same thing in the last discussion with you. The rollout happens, and it happens at incredible pace. I currently don't use LTE in a phone as I wanted the Galaxy S3 and didn't want to wait for the LTE variant - nevertheless it was a tough decision not to get the HTC One XL.

But you are just like the people, samcraig characterized earlier. If the iPhone5 won't offer LTE it's not a big deal as no one uses it in your world - and if it is rolled out with LTE then it is the "pioneer of a new technology" and the best since sliced bread.

Too predictable - sorry.
Way to contradict yourself completely. :rolleyes:
 
Go read what I posted!! You said android phones were "future proof" last year when LTE rolled out so I was referring to android phones last year with their horrible battery life which to me is not future proof!!
I never make excuses!! I never said LTE phones NOW have bad battery life!! Don't be pulling up brand new phones that barely came out when you were clearly talking about last year!!
Thank you I win
The Samsung Galaxy Note LTE (which I also mentioned in my previous post) was released last year, not this year.

Your excuse for iPhone not having LTE cause android LTE phones have "horrible battery life", which is a ridiculous excuse. Why did not Apple release LTE iphone last year with good battery life? Why Samsung could deliver?

"Future proof" is not about battery life anyway. You keep changing the subject from LTE to battery life to justify your excuse for the lack of LTE on iphone. "Future proof" in this case is about LTE technology available on a phone ahead of LTE roll out, since a typical length of mobile contact in US is 2 years. It would mean that people who purchased an LTE phone on 2-year contract last year don't have to wait another year to enjoy the LTE technology.

ifans always come up with a lot of excuses on Apple being behind on features and technologies:
- copy/paste
- multitasking
- notifications
- voice control
- dual/quad core
- 2GB RAM
- widgets
- USB storage, SD storage
- LTE
- NFC
- Large screen
- OLED

Once the feature/technology finally becomes available on iPhone, Apple makes big marketing fuss about it.
 
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that is a very stupid thing to say.

android is irrelevant compared to the iPhone no matter what you think. NFC will be useful when and if the iPhone uses it. same with LTE..

As an iphone user I find your comment very naive.
 
that is a very stupid thing to say.

android is irrelevant compared to the iPhone no matter what you think. NFC will be useful when and if the iPhone uses it. same with LTE..
That was a very idiotic statement and you obviously are a fanboy. It's not irrelevant Android is paving the way for many new technologies
 
that is a very stupid thing to say.

android is irrelevant compared to the iPhone no matter what you think. NFC will be useful when and if the iPhone uses it. same with LTE..

What a stupid thing to say.

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The Samsung Galaxy Note LTE (which I also mentioned in my previous post) was released last year, not this year.

Your excuse for iPhone not having LTE cause android LTE phones have "horrible battery life", which is a ridiculous excuse. Why did not Apple release LTE iphone last year with good battery life? Why Samsung could deliver?

"Future proof" is not about battery life anyway. You keep changing the subject from LTE to battery life to justify your excuse for the lack of LTE on iphone. "Future proof" in this case is about LTE technology available on a phone ahead of LTE roll out, since a typical length of mobile contact in US is 2 years. It would mean that people who purchased an LTE phone on 2-year contract last year don't have to wait another year to enjoy the LTE technology.

ifans always come up with a lot of excuses on Apple being behind on features and technologies:
- copy/paste
- multitasking
- notifications
- voice control
- dual/quad core
- 2GB RAM
- widgets
- USB storage, SD storage
- LTE
- NFC
- OLED

Once the feature/technology finally becomes available on iPhone, Apple makes big marketing fuss about it.

And after the fuss all the brain dead fanboys think its revolutionary and amazing

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that is a very stupid thing to say.

android is irrelevant compared to the iPhone no matter what you think. NFC will be useful when and if the iPhone uses it. same with LTE..

Umm..explain to me how LTE will suddenly be useful when Apple incorporates it vs Android?

I need to hear this. please enlighten me.

if your explanation is good Ill give you a cookie
 
Big deal for those outside of the States.
Geez, get out of your basement.

Pfft... I am outside of the united states... you fail.

The point of my "big deal" comment is the fact that this should be a mandatory feature of evolution... not a selling point.

It's a bit like saying... Car! comes with engine. House! comes with door. Speaker! comes with cone. Guitar! comes with strings. Idiot!!! comes with mouth.

Oh, and also... I don't have a basement.
You make a lot of assumptions.

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I have a microcell from AT&T due to zero reception at my house. Does said microcell become a large paper weight when I upgrade to an LTE-capable iPhone 5?
And does AT&T releases plans/pricing ahead of the 9.12.12 announcement? Thanks.

You probably aren't going to pay for LTE data at home.

I assume(?) that if you have a microcell it's connecting to your internet? And you already have WiFi at home for data, so it'd be silly to use your data plan over cellular if you have WiFi data at home already.

If there is new AT&T pricing based on new product, all the info you need probably will not be available on 9/12. At least there were missing pieces for the iPad LTE plans (tethering, global, grandfathering[?] and more).

BUT since there is new AT&T shared data plans from just a few weeks ago, I'd guess that's probably all stable. No Facetime over cellular unless you have a shared data plan, but shared data includes tethering.

Gary
 
The Samsung Galaxy Note LTE (which I also mentioned in my previous post) was released last year, not this year.

Your excuse for iPhone not having LTE cause android LTE phones have "horrible battery life", which is a ridiculous excuse. Why did not Apple release LTE iphone last year with good battery life? Why Samsung could deliver?

"Future proof" is not about battery life anyway. You keep changing the subject from LTE to battery life to justify your excuse for the lack of LTE on iphone. "Future proof" in this case is about LTE technology available on a phone ahead of LTE roll out, since a typical length of mobile contact in US is 2 years. It would mean that people who purchased an LTE phone on 2-year contract last year don't have to wait another year to enjoy the LTE technology.

ifans always come up with a lot of excuses on Apple being behind on features and technologies:
- copy/paste
- multitasking
- notifications
- voice control
- dual/quad core
- 2GB RAM
- widgets
- USB storage, SD storage
- LTE
- NFC
- Large screen
- OLED

Once the feature/technology finally becomes available on iPhone, Apple makes big marketing fuss about it.

You're in the wrong forum fandroid!!
Anyway how is battery life not about future proofing!! If I buy a device with bad battery life to begin with (first LTE android devices) then the battery is only going to get worse with time....as time passes that is considered the future therefore it is not future proof since I'd always have to be near a charge port!! Future proofing is an LTE phone with good battery (razr maxx) which I admit has great battery life but that's because the battery is ridiculously large (3300 mah) compared to an iPhone 4S (1420 mah) so id expect that battery to beat the iPhone at WAY MORE THAN TWICE THE SIZE!!!!

Yes Apple is behind on features which customers are beggin for and they are gonna go bankrupt pretty soon because their products don't sell at all.... LMFAO!!!! Most consumers just like their products to work and apple is the best at that!!
 
So true. My friend had an Android phone a year & half ago and switch to iPhone because the battery life was terrible. He would have to charge his phone all the time

I've had my kids friends bring over cheaper Android phones that cannot be turned on AND get a full battery at the same time. Most of my chargers are 10w iPad chargers, so that would fix their problem... But their phones dont COME with those to begin with.
 
You're in the wrong forum fandroid!!
Anyway how is battery life not about future proofing!! If I buy a device with bad battery life to begin with (first LTE android devices) then the battery is only going to get worse with time....as time passes that is considered the future therefore it is not future proof since I'd always have to be near a charge port!! Future proofing is an LTE phone with good battery (razr maxx) which I admit has great battery life but that's because the battery is ridiculously large (3300 mah) compared to an iPhone 4S (1420 mah) so id expect that battery to beat the iPhone at WAY MORE THAN TWICE THE SIZE!!!!

Yes Apple is behind on features which customers are beggin for and they are gonna go bankrupt pretty soon because their products don't sell at all.... LMFAO!!!! Most consumers just like their products to work and apple is the best at that!!
Ignorance at its absolute finest.
 
You're in the wrong forum fandroid!!
Anyway how is battery life not about future proofing!! If I buy a device with bad battery life to begin with (first LTE android devices) then the battery is only going to get worse with time....as time passes that is considered the future therefore it is not future proof since I'd always have to be near a charge port!! Yes Apple is behind on features which customers are beggin for and they are gonna go bankrupt pretty soon because their products don't sell at all.... LMFAO!!!! Most consumers just like their products to work and apple is the best at that!!
I don't need you to tell me what forum is right for me. You probably would not like it either, if I tell you what forum you should go to, or where should you go at all? I've owned dozens of Apple products and still do and I own AAPL stock for now: that is why I am here. But, unlike to others, Apple is not a religion to me: the iPhone does not work for me anymore and I am not happy with the direction Apple is taking. Apple achieves high sales/margins using marketing hype, sweatshop labor and litigation rather than focus on delivering best products. Apple is fat, lazy and stagnant.

Again, it is your ridiculous excuse, that Apple could not deliver the LTE iphone because others could not achieve great battery life. I thought the iPhone suppose to be premium and innovative device, unlike others? Why would you set the "horrible android battery life" as a standard for the premium and "innovative" iphone? The answer is simple: because the iphone is no longer premium and innovative, but quite opposite. And the 4" iphone 5 is already obsolete on arrival.
 
Pfft... I am outside of the united states... you fail.

The point of my "big deal" comment is the fact that this should be a mandatory feature of evolution... not a selling point.

It's a bit like saying... Car! comes with engine. House! comes with door. Speaker! comes with cone. Guitar! comes with strings. Idiot!!! comes with mouth.

Oh, and also... I don't have a basement.
You make a lot of assumptions.

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Not to fanboys. It does not exist until Apple has it. Which I find absurd

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I don't need you to tell me what forum is right for me. You probably would not like it either, if I tell you what forum you should go to, or where should you go at all? I've owned dozens of Apple products and still do and I own AAPL stock for now: that is why I am here. But the iPhone does not work for me anymore and I am not happy with the direction Apple is taking. Apple achieves high sales/margins using marketing hype, sweatshop labor and litigation rather than focus on delivering best products. Apple is fat, lazy and stagnant.

Again, it is your ridiculous excuse, that Apple could not deliver the LTE iphone because others could not achieve great battery life. I thought the iPhone suppose to be premium and innovative device, unlike others? Why would you set the "horrible android battery life" as a standard for the premium and "innovative" iphone? The answer is simple: because the iphone is no longer premium and innovative, but quite opposite. And the 4" iphone 5 is already obsolete on arrival.

Agreed. My Vibrant had a 4" screen back in 2010.
 
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