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Well.. I'm on the Slow Network [ Sprint... I know ] and in Colorado...so, unless I switch carriers [ which I won't because I have their Executive Plan ~ $30 unlimited everything ] I won't be seeing LTE [ heck I don't even see true 3G speeds on Sprint ] for a long while...

So, I'll sit on my tried and tested 4S on Sprint and the 4 [ unlocked ] for my traveling needs with GSM.
 
That's partly true...
Telia is the only carrier that actually restricts VoIP over its network. The other ones say that it is not included in the plan, but they don't do anything about it.
Telia offers VoIP in their most expensive plans though.

Comviq is cheap, but as I said before,you get bad coverage and slow speeds on most places. Me myself would never use comviq or Tele2 which is basically the same company. Like Telia/halebop. You get the best speeds with 3, no question about it. That's what I recommend people here in Sweden, Stockholm. I get about 6-8 mbit average on my iPhone 4s. My plan limits my max speed to 10 mbit. I think that is good enough.

But I can't recommend a person who is going to stay up north to use anything else than Telia/halebop, because of bad coverage there. Trust me on this.
Like I said before, as long as you are in the city ( no matter what city) 3 is the best carrier, but as long as you travel in between cities, Telia is by far the best carrier.

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Yeah, I noticed that although the fine print on Comviq said you couldn't do VoIP, I was still able to...go figure.
 
I have 15GB Data, then I get throttled (iPad) usually I reach that limit around the 25th, sometimes on the 20th, that depends on my workload. I log on to different machines, Windows and Mac, so that the desktop, programmes ect auf dem iPad laufen.
Also, I like US TV, and with my VPN I watch a lot of that, the iPad streams it onto the big screen.
I live in Spain, the fixed line ADSL (Wifi) is slower, sometimes a lot slower, then 3G, also more expensive.
Slowly they install fiber here, but it will be a couple of years until that reaches me.
The "Flat rates" they offer in Germany are quite redicoulus, but it seems people pay that there. Good for the providers, bad for the clients.

So you are arguing with your data only plan when arguing about phones?

Data only plan on T-mobile (alas at 90 bucks per month) comes in with up to 100 MBit/s (and yes - living in Cologne I would get that - can we get over that please) and is capped at 30 GB.

But that is so completely off topic discussing mobile data plans for tablets when we're talking about phones. Nevertheless shows to prove that you are even to lazy to check those provider websites. Oh - btw O2 offers 50MBit Upgrade option (3 GB cap) with either the HTC One XL or the LG Optimus True HD LTE for just 10 bucks per month extra.
 
Just curious, how might lte be implemented on an iphone to minimise battery drain? Earlier android phones were not able to avoid this, what exactly is the reason behind this? :confused:
The new Qualcom chip has much better efficiency. I'm not sure that any shipping phone is using it, yet.
When was the last time you fully downloaded 2 GB of data over your wireless connection? Heck, when was the last time you received your SMS that your speed will be throttled?

I barely get them with a 500 MB limit. Nevertheless it would be quite convenient (and battery saving to say the least) if your data radio was on for merely a second or two and then switched off again.
You have a 500MB limit and you are worried about super-high-end LTE speed? Why? I have about 6 apps on my phone that would each exceed your limit to download over LTE. This is the problem today, the limits make the speed a non-issue for most people.
 
So you are arguing with your data only plan when arguing about phones?

Data only plan on T-mobile (alas at 90 bucks per month) comes in with up to 100 MBit/s (and yes - living in Cologne I would get that - can we get over that please) and is capped at 30 GB.

But that is so completely off topic discussing mobile data plans for tablets when we're talking about phones. Nevertheless shows to prove that you are even to lazy to check those provider websites. Oh - btw O2 offers 50MBit Upgrade option (3 GB cap) with either the HTC One XL or the LG Optimus True HD LTE for just 10 bucks per month extra.

Nope, I put a regular SIM into the iPad.it is a free secondary card coming with my phone contract. I am not aware of pure data contracts here. Of course, LTE is only data, as they did not manage to make phonecalls with it yet. Thats why I'm not understanding the whole LTE thing in phones, what it is good for. I do not know about the new iPhone5, but I do know that if you would have (non optainable) 100Mbit/s on the HTC or the LG it would mean nothing, they could not even prozess that data in real time. And I find 10 Dollars (or Euros) for a few Minutes "full speed" still too much.

You obviously did not use any LTE Network in Germny yet and if, you where stationary looking at a snapshot. Get into a ICE and start watching a HD stream from your office server, then you see the real life LTE. You will be amazed that there are not advertising regulators shutting those campaigns down.
 
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But the problem is it won't be global, that's a lie.
It totally depends on the carriers, and more than half the countries don't even have LTE at all.
 
Verizon has ramped its LTE ads regarding network geographical diversity. They seem to be leaning against AT&T's prior total geographic dominance in the 2G/3G (enhanced) era.

I still say when the next major crisis or military action happens in the USA you will be blessing AT&T's network. And begging for access.

I suspect your teenage daughter is concerned about that 0%.

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The big push for LTE, and faster data speeds, is simple; Cloud Computing, Streaming Video, Online Gaming, VoIP, Video Calling, and I could go on.

The problem lies as technology grows, the demand for faster speeds grows with it. Remember when 28.8 Kbps modems were around. No one ever complained, they loaded internet pages just fine and the local AOL chatroom. Then digital cameras took off, 56K was introduce, and webpages started hosting larger content (i.e. pics, small low quality videos; real player)

Now you have services like dropbox, while HSPA+ networks are sufficient to some degree, you have people like Apple, Google, Amazon, all pushing for "Cloud" computing.

All about Cloud, huh? Well that's a great idea honestly. You can sync and have your content anywhere. That's what LTE for, right? Yeah .. Theoretically.

But you see how carriers work. They throttle you on a stingy monthly data plan. You get what? 1Gb or 2Gb monthly? How's that enough to push the cloud and streaming services? Pay for data overuse costs you arms and legs. Might as well buying a full blown bluray movie instead of downloading it off iTunes with glorious LTE data plan. In the end it's going to be expensive for the dataplan alone.

How about remove throttling and give people true unlimited plan? Right. That's not possible. It's a speedy connection ..
Only for the first one GB :rolleyes:
 
Doesnt anybody think that the 4g coverage by at&t will "turned on" in many other areas once the 4g capable iphone will be released? Seems like that may be a distinct possibility no?

When the 3g iphone came out, the AT&T map showed no 3g service in my metro area, and then, the very next day, once the 3g iphone came out, the coverage map showed 3g service all over my city, as well as hundreds of metro areas around the country. As months went by, the 3g coverage expanded more and more around the US.
 
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I see painfully arrogant sheep still think their ****** doesn't stink because they use Apple products.

Oh and I guess the same cant be said for " insert name of competitors product here " fans dont do the same. :rolleyes:

ST FU and move on....
 
It's funny how you choose to ignore the reason Apple didn't include 4G and instead pretend that Apple decided it didn't matter. What they had to decide, more or less, was whether it mattered enough to make it worth the hit to the battery life it would have required, thereby making the iPhone as terrible as every one else's phones. It was a considered choice. Battery life or Faster data. Given that the iPhone has remained successful as have several competing phones that went the other route, cold, hard logic would suggest that neither choice was wrong or right for everyone. That's why it's good to have competition. Different ways of doing similar things provide the consumer with choices that are meaningful to them.
And along comes Qualcomm with a solution to everyone's problem.
What "solution"? Can you provide a link stating that a new Qualcomm LTE chip is more power efficient and by what percentage?
 
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Tell that to AT&T.
I seriously want to know should we be expecting speeds of +20 Mbps or not with the iPhone 5.

The real issue is that AT&T can't afford to back haul that kind of wireless. A 20Mbps data link costs them 400 50kbps voice lines (voice is very lightweight now). The USA is staggeringly empty compared to most European countries. Population density falls off steeply when everybody has 5 acre yards in the suburbs for a family of 3.5. It's the tower buildout that costs the money right now. I do think 4g wireless might be what we need for rural Internet. I live in mid-Michigan. The only reason my town gets stuff is because we're along the highway. What "regular folk" need is a good 1-3mbps all the time. Even in the sticks or Mountians.
 
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Its funny how LTE matters now, despite Android having it for a year and a half.
It matters now because carriers are finally starting to roll out their LTE!
Now LTE only matters to people who can buy iPhone 5 LTE. A lot of people who bought iPhone 4S still have to wait the whole year to enjoy LTE. Apple did not make the iPhone 4S future proof.

Android phones were built future proof and the "future" actually was not very distant: LTE roll out started last year, not "finally starting".
 
Now LTE only matters to people who can buy iPhone 5 LTE. A lot of people who bought iPhone 4S still have to wait the whole year to enjoy LTE. Apple did not make the iPhone 4S future proof.

Android phones were built future proof and the "future" actually was not very distant: LTE roll out started last year, not "finally starting".

And do you think iPhone 3G was future proof despite having a tried and true 3G support? No smartphone is future proof, especially when competition is fierce and fast moving. Having LTE iPhone does not make it live any longer nor desirable than ever.
 
Does anyone with any technical knowledge know if there's a reason why they can't make one iPhone that works on AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon?

I know with AT&T and Verizon for example, both use the same technology for LTE, but operate on slightly different frequencies. What is involved in having an iPhone that can use LTE on say 700, 800, and 1900Mhz? I don't imagine it can be that much due to the fact that when GSM was a worldwide standard you could have them operate on 800, 900, 1800, 1900, etc.
 
Now LTE only matters to people who can buy iPhone 5 LTE. A lot of people who bought iPhone 4S still have to wait the whole year to enjoy LTE. Apple did not make the iPhone 4S future proof.

Android phones were built future proof and the "future" actually was not very distant: LTE roll out started last year, not "finally starting".


Horrible battery in those Android phones with LTE!! Talk about future proof....hahaha :rolleyes:
 
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