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Next MacBook and MacBook Pro Updates in June?

Why Montevina will usher in a revised MBP case.

I didnt take the time to look through all the posts in the first 3 pages to see if anyone posted this...

Montevina will be huge, not only because is speeds up the FSB, but the packaging is smaller. It is the same package as the macbook air execpt the MBA includes a 65nm Merom chip where as the updates in June/July will have the faster 45nm Penryn chips.

With a smaller package the Apple engineers can do a case revision. 2008 is going to be littered with updates. :eek:
 
pine1045 said:
Yeah I know, that was outright blasphemy on my part. With Intel running the show now, Apple will be updating more often which will lead to more people complaining they got shafted on the previous version. The days of rare PowerPC updates are over. This will probably drive the longevity price of an Apple computer down over time but of course Apple will never do price cuts. Since I just ordered my new MacBook Pro, I can't wait to see what happens in another 4 years :)
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Quite right, I hark for the good ol' PPC days, when Macs were Macs :( sigh....

Just think, the Cell processor could be in the "Power Mac" right now :(

Plus, all the PPC updates were SIGNIFICANT updates, not just Apple giving slightly more slightly cheaper as standard.
 
Great, now we'll have people waiting till then and then every week when it doesn't happen they'll bitch some more.
 
Maybe I am too cynical, but as a AAPL stock holder I wonder if this recent deluge of new products has something to do with their stock value which has slipped from $200 a share to around $120 since XMAS. It seems like every Tuesday since the expo there is something new.

By all accounts, these latest updates to the MBP make virtually no difference in performance (except perhaps for the 2.5 6MB L2 cache version) and only really include the MultiTouch as 'wow' upgrades. I guess you could argue the MB updates are slightly more significant - and they now make a MB better value but didnt they get updated like a few months ago anyway?

I think a June revision is therefore very likely, along with anything else Apple can get out the door. Mind you, it makes Tuesdays awesome and I am praying the APPL stock goes up in value soon!


Neil
 
Small White Car said:
Unless you're not talking about shape, but just the look. What do you want? Fins? A purple stripe? Seriously, what? I see a millions "case re-design!" posts and not ONE of them ever makes a suggestion as to what they'd actually want.
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I, personnally, want something VERY easy for them :)apple:)!

Black Anodized Aluminium

Everything is fine on the macbook pro... size and form factor is great... just want black!

Edit : sorry.. I also like the magnetic latch idea... and the 15" with 1680x1050 please
 
I think people need to get some perspective - if you buy it now, it will be fine. Relax.

Plus, as soon as the new redesigned MBP comes, it is always good to wait a few months whilst they iron out the inevitable problems they will have. Say for to five months.

And how exactly is it going to be so incredible that it shames the current line of notebooks? It is a revision, not a miracle.

The MOST important thing is how it RUNS software, and Apple is pretty good at that. So relax, and don't worry so much about how out of date you are, I promise not to judge you ;)
 
rdas7 said:
I'm with you on that. But given that a durable black finish is an added expense, I doubt many would go for it.
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Yep, that's why no one bought the more expensive BlackBook ... oh wait ...


rdas7 said:
Please, no. People are kinda divided on this. For everyone who prefers the MacBook Pro keyboard, there's someone who prefers the MacBook keys...
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Actually, that's not true. If you look at the various polls that have occurred in these forums you'll see that the vast majority prefer the MacBook style keyboard (although I'm one of the few who doesn't) as it feels better and they can type faster.

7) More air vents to help cool the laptop.
rdas7 said:
wtf?
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If you've ever used a MBP and started to do even a basic amount of processor intensive work or been unlucky with a Flash enabled site in Safari then you'd know how hot those babys can easily get. Anything to make them cooler would be more than welcome.
 
Intel publish roadmaps for their product cycles - if you follow hardware sites like Anandtech and Tomshardware you can get a good feel for likely minor and major updates in the product lifecycle and buy accordingly.

It's good that Intel are forcing the pace onto Apple after the stagnation of powerpc! ;)
 
Bought a refurb last night and couldn't be more excited

Been shopping a MacBook for about 2 mos., just waiting until I couldn't stand waiting anymore. Was debating b/w a new one at $1249 vs. a refurb at $1049... So much to my delight, w/ the "new" MB's out yesterday they dropped the prices on the "old" refurbs by another $100. So last night I bought an "old-out of date-sure to cause certain mac snobs to snicker" WHITE MacBook w/ the 2.2ghz processor, 120GB harddrive, 8x superdrive, and 1G of Ram (soon to be upgraded) for $999. Basically I got a bigger harddrive and a little bit more processing speed for $50 less than I would have spent just 24 hours ago.

That (IMO) is a STEAL and I am stoked!

If you have to have the absolute latest/greatest, you'll always end up jealous of the next thing. But for those of us that just want a great laptop at a reasonable price, this is a day to celebrate! :D:D:D

:apple: Jarlaxle :apple:
 
spaceballl said:
And in more relevant news, i bought a penryn macbook pro yesterday - will upgrade to the gen2 of their redesign, whenever it may come!
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Smart thinking. I'm actually thinking that now is the perfect time to upgrade, since waiting until June would mean you're susceptible to the notorious first-gen-apple-product bugs.
 
Neutral Gamer said:
Yep, that's why no one bought the more expensive BlackBook ... oh wait ...




Actually, that's not true. If you look at the various polls that have occurred in these forums you'll see that the vast majority prefer the MacBook style keyboard (although I'm one of the few who doesn't) as it feels better and they can type faster.



If you've ever used a MBP and started to do even a basic amount of processor intensive work or been unlucky with a Flash enabled site in Safari then you'd know how hot those babys can easily get. Anything to make them cooler would be more than welcome.
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The Black Macbook finish is a lot different. It's THE ACTUAL plastic.

But with the aluminum, you're not gonna get that. It'd have to be highly resistant coating on reallllly good aluminum, which would make it more pricey than it already is, they'd probably only offer it on top of the line models, like in the macbook.

You don't have to worry about that with the plastic casing.

And if you realllllllly want a black macbook pro, get a custom case for it!

www.colorwarepc.com

Bit pricey, but you seem like you have money to throw around
 
You know, for what it's worth, I have a MBP 2.2 Santa Rosa that I got last summer soon after the release. I'm completely satisfied with it. I'm not worried that newer faster ones are available as of yesterday, or that in 4 months even better ones might be out.

I'm happy that Apple keeps up with the incremental upgrades in between major changes. It's a GOOD thing that they aren't doing major redesigns annually... then we'd hear "OMG, how could they make that change? The last one was PERFECT".

Anyhow, my experience is that if you buy a MBP today you are going to be very happy with it, even when a newer, faster one comes out down the road. There are a few people who feel burned if they bought right on the cusp of a model change.
 
JaySoul said:
I think people need to get some perspective - if you buy it now, it will be fine. Relax.

Plus, as soon as the new redesigned MBP comes, it is always good to wait a few months whilst they iron out the inevitable problems they will have. Say for to five months.

And how exactly is it going to be so incredible that it shames the current line of notebooks? It is a revision, not a miracle.

The MOST important thing is how it RUNS software, and Apple is pretty good at that. So relax, and don't worry so much about how out of date you are, I promise not to judge you ;)
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I agree with the revision 1 comment. I bought the first MBP off the line at the switch to intel. Over the next 8 months that computer was sent back to apple 6 times, and still came back broken. I finally got them to give me a refund.

And for the record, I prefer the current MBP keyboard over the MB keyboard.

My favorite apple laptop of all time was my 12" powerbook. I wish i still had that, I sold it when I got the MBP mentioned above...sigh. That thing was a dream. For me, the size was perfect! The keyboard was the best I ever used. The only thing I wish it had was a higher resolution screen.
 
rdas7 said:
Because of all those stories of MacBook Pros, um, bending? Name one?
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Uhh, I have personally broken 2 Ti's, and 2 PB AL, and one AL MBP. The metal finish is slippery and when dropped, dents, cracks, and breaks. I have handled and dropped mb's and they flex rather than dent and break.
Also AL conducts heat like crazy, this allows heat from inside the laptop to propogate to your lap, scorching your manhood. Personally I would rather have plastic that insulates and only vents through the designed vents rather than to your lap.

rdas7 said:
When you figure out how to make a metal case non-magnetic, be sure to post it here.
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First off the case is irrelevant when it comes to the magnetic latch. Aluminum and plastic are non-magnetic and either one could have a magnetic latch. The magnetic latch would be no different than applying a mag-safe connector and Apple implemented that on the MBP.

rdas7 said:
I'm with you on that. But given that a durable black finish is an added expense, I doubt many would go for it.
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Like the black mb. Yeah, I guess not many people opt for that either. Black is the new Pro color, Silver is consumer. If you look at most highend electronics these days, plasma tv's, highend home theater & stereo gear, Black is the pro model. Silver is the consumer model.

rdas7 said:
I'm all for that, I love how on the MacBook design, the hard drive just slides right out. Not sure I'd like to sacrifice the durability of the MBP just for this feature, however.
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In my opinion the MB is more durable than the mbp. The mbp is much more fragile whereas the mb is practically indestructible by the average college student.

Look, everyone knows the mbp is in sore need of a re-design. Apple just hasn't got around to it yet. The next revision with Montevina will almost assuredly include a case re-design and a new feature set. When it is released it will make the current mbp look like an antique. Everyone will then realize just how badly the mbp needed a total redesign.
 
Jarlaxle said:
Been shopping a MacBook for about 2 mos., just waiting until I couldn't stand waiting anymore. Was debating b/w a new one at $1249 vs. a refurb at $1049... So much to my delight, w/ the "new" MB's out yesterday they dropped the prices on the "old" refurbs by another $100. So last night I bought an "old-out of date-sure to cause certain mac snobs to snicker" WHITE MacBook w/ the 2.2ghz processor, 120GB harddrive, 8x superdrive, and 1G of Ram (soon to be upgraded) for $999. Basically I got a bigger harddrive and a little bit more processing speed for $50 less than I would have spent just 24 hours ago.

That (IMO) is a STEAL and I am stoked!

If you have to have the absolute latest/greatest, you'll always end up jealous of the next thing. But for those of us that just want a great laptop at a reasonable price, this is a day to celebrate! :D:D:D

:apple: Jarlaxle :apple:
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Well played and very good value. Enjoy it. I am a bit surprised that more people don't take advantage of the refurbs, especially with all the complaints about the cost of new Macs.
 
liberty4all said:
Acer has TWO Blu-Ray Notebooks, when will Apple?!

See:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080225PD213.html
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Apple is trying to sell HiDef content through iTunes so it doesn't make a lot of sense for them to include Blu-Ray in their computers. If they do eventually cave in to the masses, look for it as an expensive option and not standard. Blu-Ray is very nice. Looks and sounds great on my home entertainment system but digital HiDef content that I can take with me anywhere and on any device is much better. Blu-Ray might have beat out HD DVD but it doesn't mean the war is over.
 
pine1045 said:
Yeah I know, that was outright blasphemy on my part. With Intel running the show now, Apple will be updating more often which will lead to more people complaining they got shafted on the previous version. The days of rare PowerPC updates are over.
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maybe, maybe not. imac and MBP have been intel since 1/06, and are now rev C and D, respectively. The MB went intel 5/06, and is now rev E. The mini went intel 2/06 and is rev C. The Mac Pro went intel 8/06 and is now rev B.

Frankly, with the exception of the macbook, that looks like a pretty slow update schedule. In the PPC days 6 months between updates was a pretty good guess, but for many of the intel models, it's more than that.

(not that I'm complaining - the chips are available when they're available, and the intel transition was a great idea. but I don't think it's accurate to say that, to this point, we've seen more rapid updates than in the PPC days)
 
Its catch-22 for Apple..

When it was PPC we all moaned about lack of power, no G5 etc..

When its INTEL, we all moan about too many updates. If Apple didn't give you the best they could get out of INTEL, we would all be bitchin about that too.

As someone recently posted, the people looking to buy are happy; those who have recently bought are annoyed. C'est la vie - its the same in the PC world. The SD card world.. etc..

Just buy what you need when you need it (caveat: although if you know if you are at an imminent end of life cycle - see "Buyer's Guide" herein - and you can wait a couple of weeks...)

I think Apple should try to offer the best when they can.. so if it means INTEL updates their GHz, then so be it. Its the price we all pay for going to INTEL.

Instead of focusing a minor "update" which will happen frequently, try focusing on a REAL update... a REAL re-design..


.. my 2cs
 
Buy now!

Create and enjoy while you can, you could die before the next update!
 
eatmoreramen said:
The Black Macbook finish is a lot different. It's THE ACTUAL plastic.

But with the aluminum, you're not gonna get that. It'd have to be highly resistant coating on reallllly good aluminum, which would make it more pricey than it already is, they'd probably only offer it on top of the line models, like in the macbook.

You don't have to worry about that with the plastic casing.

And if you realllllllly want a black macbook pro, get a custom case for it!

www.colorwarepc.com

Bit pricey, but you seem like you have money to throw around
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Thanks for the link mate; a black MBP looks amazing! I wish there was a way to make the keyboard white to give it a good contrast.

As for the price, it's only $450. I, like many others, spent well over $3000 on their MBP's so it's hardly a significant amount is it? I'd happily spend that extra premium to get a unique, cool looking laptop. So in the same way Apple could offer the option and thanks to economies of scale I'm sure they could offer it an even lower price or even at the same price I'm sure there'd be people who would pay up.
 
akac said:
Case redesign:

1) I'd like something other than Aluminum. Too easy to bend. So different material. But I love the look of Al, so.
2) Mag latch is a change in the case as it changes how the top and bottom of the case look and work
3) Get rid of the plastic edging. Taper the metal so that it doesn't need that plastic edging.
4) Black.
5) MacBook style keys
6) Allow case to have a replaceable hard drive at the bottom ala MacBook. - its a feature, but requires a case redesign to allow it.
7) More air vents to help cool the laptop.
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That would be a great laptop. Add BluRay also.
 
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