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Dont understand the hate for the UB looks, mine looks seamless with the sexy AG silver border. I can understand the hate towards the fugly mirror screens though.
 
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2012 is a long way off. Buy now, enjoy it now and sell and upgrade when the time comes. I'm terrible for getting caught in the waiting game. You just wait for eternity.

I'm not sure the pros will lose the DVD drive. It'll encroch into MBA territory and pros are meant more for industry use where the drives are useful.

MBA for casual use. MBP where nothing is compromised.

13 needs a better screen though. I've just bought my first 13 MBP and the soft resolution is a bit disappointing.
 
YESSSS after 3 years of waiting!

It's been 2 years 6 months. The aluminum design prior to that lasted 5 years 10 months (with only a minor thinning when it became the macpro).

Since when did two and a half years become a long time to keep a particular design? And how did some of us get so impatient in our consumer-based lives?
 
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2012 is a long way off. Buy now, enjoy it now and sell and upgrade when the time comes. I'm terrible for getting caught in the waiting game. You just wait for eternity.

I'm not sure the pros will lose the DVD drive. It'll encroch into MBA territory and pros are meant more for industry use where the drives are useful.

MBA for casual use. MBP where nothing is compromised.

13 needs a better screen though. I've just bought my first 13 MBP and the soft resolution is a bit disappointing.

Would you disagree that, just perhaps, in these industries where the DVD drive is so crucial that they might just have external drives? Apple is trying to sell these MacBooks to everyone, not just pros. It's 2011, the internet and App store are capable of doing the exact same thing as DVDs (for most computer purposes). For everything else, buy the external superdrive. 15% of MBP customers might need a DVD drive, but we know Apple isn't going to ignore the 85% who don't.
 
If it looks good (and have great specs) it might be time to replace my pre-Unibody 2007 MBP. :cool:
 
I love the way so many people say that 'nobody' has a use for the SuperDrive.

Admitedly from when I got my MacBook in 08 till 10 I only used it a few times but this year I've actually used it quite a bit.

I've been doing a spot of photography for a club and at the moment there isnt a cheaper more convenient way of giving a few hundred+ MB worth of images to someone than on a CD/DVD that just took 2 mins to burn.

Without the SuperDrive my only option would be either USB stick (which cost more and you never get given them back anyway) or online via drop box (which takes ages as my ADSL is pretty slow as I pretty much live out in the sticks.

So personally I hope they keep the SuperDrive on the pro... until USB sticks become a few pence each anyway
 
No need to buy Torx screwdrivers.....

Great. Since Apple puts that crap hard drive in there, instead of simply using the computer someone has to go through all that trouble to get what they paid for (i7 processor)? Are you for real? That sounds great. I'm sure all those random people who buy from the Apple Store also buy the Apple torx screwdriver kit and get to work when they get home. :rolleyes:

I recently changed the hard drive in my 2011 MBP. Electronics-size Phillips-head screwdrivers (No. 0 and No. 00) are all that's needed. Anybody who's handy with tools can do the job in about 15 minutes.

Even though the 7200 rpm HD is not as fast as an SSD, the difference in boot-up, app launch and overall operation speeds are quite noticeable (with no observable change in battery life).
 
Wow, I'm really impressed by all these people hoping for Liquid Metal. I'm wondering what they think that is, this "Liquid Metal". I bet they think it's something really cool, something that is completely different from anything that humankind has ever used in manufacturing (I mean, I read something like "Black Liquidmetal" in this thread. Wtf?). But truth is, if you held something in your hands made of Liquid Metal you wouldn't even notice the difference between that and anything made of aluminium, steel or any other shiny metal. It may be a very exciting new material for metallurgists or chemists but the consumer will probably just notice that it is a bit more durable and scratch resistant than aluminium (if at all, more likely in direct comparison only). It's the same thing as carbon. When I bought my first bike with carbon forks I was like "Holy crap this is real carbon, I bet this will change my life forever". In fact, it was just the same. Neither did it have a special feel to it. It felt like plastic, not very trustworthy. I liked how it reduced the weight (it was 15% lighter than my old bike all in all), but seriously, it wasn't a big deal after I got used to it. It will be the same with liquid metal. It has a fancy name and everything but for the enormous price of the material it has no use for the consumer whatsoever. It will also have traces of fingerprints on it, it will also get scratchy after some time and so on. Sure, it will take a longer time till it looks used, but nobody will think "This Notebook looks really bad. But hey, if it was made of aluminium it would have looked this way like two months ago. God, I'm so glad it's made of Liquid Metal instead".
 
Would you disagree that, just perhaps, in these industries where the DVD drive is so crucial that they might just have external drives? Apple is trying to sell these MacBooks to everyone, not just pros. It's 2011, the internet and App store are capable of doing the exact same thing as DVDs (for most computer purposes). For everything else, buy the external superdrive. 15% of MBP customers might need a DVD drive, but we know Apple isn't going to ignore the 85% who don't.

I'd agree with you. Apple is also trying to get everyone to purchase software from the Mac App Store. They are even trying to distribute Final Cut Pro via download so you have to believe Apple is going to do everything possible to diminish the use of CD/DVDs.

You also have to believe that if you still intend to watch movies/TV on your MacBook Pro that Apple would rather you download it from iTunes than buy a DVD from which Apple receives no cut.

At this point I'd be more surprised if the next MacBook Pro had a Superdrive. I think they didn't remove it this year because that would have required a redesign.
 
Steve Jobs described the Air as "All notebooks will be like this someday" and
"the future of the MacBook"
So SSD fully replacing HDD is probably what we'll see in the next refresh I think.
But a new update needs more than that. So I think Apple will also wait for Intel's Ivy Bridge.
 
Bye bye built in Superdrive. I'll look back fondly at the five times I used you in the past three years.

You know, I was against the whole "get rid of the optical drive" bandwagon back in '09 when I got my MBP....but in the couple years I've had mine, I've used the thing ONCE.

And if anyone asks, it was for printer drivers (which I probably could have gotten online but I had the disc readily accessible.)

I'm going to soon get rid of mine and throw in a SSD!
 
All new Macbook Pro. The thing you were waiting for.

New, razor thin design. With Unibody introduction, we have removed the soft plastic bezel around the corners, so that you could be hurt by sharp edges more easily. Now we take another step forward —*now, the cutting edge is really cutting. The edge of the new Macbook Pro is so thin it can slice bread, and your weiner can be sliced too.

The Apple technology was always hot. And now we take “hot” to yet another level. Previously hot as in “hot chicks,” it's now also hot as in “hot chocolate.” A case this thin ought to grow extremely hot. If you have the balls to put your laptop in your lap, they will be fried deep in mere five minutes.

SSDs everywhere. Man, this is the next cool thing. Now we put SSDs anywhere, with no other options to consider. The whole whopping 256 GBs of SSD in all new Macbook Pros! Forget about the days when you were wondering what to do with all that free space on that bulky, clumsy and old 1000 GB HDD. Now you will have one hassle less with our proprietary 256 GB SSDs. See how blazing fast it is on our specially crafted tests, and never mind Logic Pro giving you “The disk is too slow!” alert now and then.

We also ditch Firewire for USB and Thunderbolt everywhere. Throw away your old faithful and perfectly working recording rig which you've once sold your house to buy. You won't need it anymore with USB, which is high speed enough (never mind it stutters and loses data under heavy load and full duplex data exchange, especially via a hub which you will require because we've given you only one port), and with Thunderbolt which is even faster (and which you don't have any peripherals for).

As if previous Macbook screens were not glossy enough, we both increase the resolution and applying more gloss all over our displays, never mind you'll need a new pair of eyes to see anything on them and that they have a 6-bit DAC, but man, they are so sexy on our marketing photos! You are already feeling an immediate urge to buy one. We also ditch the matte option; who needs it when you have so sexy glossy displays?

With shiny new apps, we have merged iOS and Mac OS X 10.8 Рussу. It has no Unix legacy. Why use grep, sed, awk or diff, when you can have the glossy apps all over your glossy screen? Admit it, you don't need a powerful tool when all you do is posting <excrements> on your Facebook profile. It just works with apps. Pros? Who just said “Pros?” This is just a money name.

Enjoy your new Macbook Pro. We'll enjoy your money and watch you crawl to us, asking for more.
 
I'd like to see something along the lines of carbon fiber. I'm fed up of being shocked by my unearthed mac book pro, and very fed up of the razor sharp edges they seem to like so much. It makes me look like I've tried slitting my wrists :p

The obvious downside with using a non-metal is the heat. They have relied on the aluminium to act as a giant heatsink, and I fear not using aluminium again would result in a thicker, hotter model!
 
I love the way so many people say that 'nobody' has a use for the SuperDrive.

Admitedly from when I got my MacBook in 08 till 10 I only used it a few times but this year I've actually used it quite a bit.

I've been doing a spot of photography for a club and at the moment there isnt a cheaper more convenient way of giving a few hundred+ MB worth of images to someone than on a CD/DVD that just took 2 mins to burn.

Without the SuperDrive my only option would be either USB stick (which cost more and you never get given them back anyway) or online via drop box (which takes ages as my ADSL is pretty slow as I pretty much live out in the sticks.

So personally I hope they keep the SuperDrive on the pro... until USB sticks become a few pence each anyway
Or just get a USB optical drive and have the best of both worlds ... you won't be forced to lug around something you only use once in a while :)
 
Color me skeptical.

The current case is pretty good. There's room for improvement — questionable assembly of internal components, and above all the switch to a removal bottom rather than a removable top plate meant a serious weakness around the Ethernet and Firewire 800 port. These could easily be fixed by using, say, Indigo thermal pads instead of glopping on paste, and on the outside of the case ditching the Ethernet and Firewire for slimmer alternatives that don't weaken the case —*namely a second Thunderbolt port and having three USB ports (3.0 of course) that could support Gigabit Ethernet dongles. And then you recast it in LiquidMetal, and enable customers to decide up front whether they wanted the second drive bay to be blade-SSD or optical, leaving the traditional drive in the first bay.

What you'd have then is the strongest, best designed full-featured laptop case in the business. It's not a major change, but a refinement that adds both strength and versatility to an already good design.

But I fear what Apple has in mind is basically an entire range of Macbook Air laptops. The Air is a fine computer, no doubt, but it's not the portable desktop I want and never can be without supporting two drives and discrete graphics in one way or another.
 
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This is horse *****! The current MacBook Pro has the best design of any laptop on the market. I love the glossy, black border surrounding the screen. I could go for update on the exterior casing. Maybe something along the lines of fiber glass. Reflective, but in some form of metal.
 
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