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Next Version Of Flash Player To See Performance Leap

Mavimao said:
Maybe I'll actually be able to watch a Youtube clip at a decent framerate in full screen! My god! Just imagine that!!! :rolleyes:
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Great, faster chunky blocky pixels! Weak. I think Flash is beginning it's slide into internet history. Another say 4-5 years or sooner and nobody will use it. Well except for making cartoons and even then, Adobe keeps ignoring the needs of the animators. They'll probably move on to something else as well.
 
Makosuke said:
Ok, you can argue that CS3 runs ok on a four-processor Mac with 8GB of RAM, but I'm not talking about trying to run CS3 on a G3 iMac or something. I bought an absolute top-of the line MBP 17" in mid-2006, maxed its RAM, and put the fastest 7200RPM drive available at the time in it. CS2 was the year-old current version at the time, but was not Intel native, so ran poorly. CS3, released about 9 months later, would be the first native version available for that pro-grade Mac (portable, but still dual-core and pro-grade), and runs ok so long as it is the only thing running, period. Otherwise it slows to a crawl, even with modest-sized images.

My point isn't that Photoshop is unusable on what was a one-year-old higher-end Mac at the time of it's release--it's not, I use it frequently--just that it's ridiculously resource hungry when there's no obvious need for it to be. Really, what features were added between CS1 and CS3 to cause such a huge performance hit (other than the preposterous activation scheme)
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What is interesting is that GIMP is a 121Mb installation, does pretty much all that photoshop does (at least for me) and never gets my CPU above 65C. I use a SR 2.4 Macbook Pro. When I tried photoshop it wasn't uncommon for the CPU to hit 87C just when playing around with vector shapes!!

Oh yeh, and what the hell do I want bridge for when I install Flash!!? God damn, I wish there was an open source Flash project...
 
So er yeah , I uninstalled flash player 10 , what a bag of nuts that was , gone back to 9 .


Pain in the a** anyway flash! , blooming adverts everywhere , flashing about & what not ...
 
Nice

holy crap a big change went from 10fps to 41fps and there was this peak it went to 65fps. Nice.
 
The weird about this

I get different frame rates from firefox and safari and one of them is more dramatic then the other.

But as I ran it more in Safari it did that hick up thing like firefox where it shoots it up to 300+fps.

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reallynotnick said:
Went from 5.4fps to 9.37fps on this test:
http://www.craftymind.com/factory/guimark/GUIMark_Flex3.html

So I guess I am happy, still HATE flash, but glad to see a speed increase. Maybe it will even be a little more by the time it is released, I just hope I can watch the 480p videos on Hulu now.

G5 iMac 2.0ghz 1GB ATI 9600 10.4.11 latest version of Webkit


EDIT: 480p on Hulu, still does not work, still extremely choppy. Even though I can play 720p H.264 much better, so Flash video still sucks IMO. I don't think it improved video playback at all, but I guess those stupid flash ads will use less of my CPU.
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I Installed Beta 10 and went from 8fps to 28-30fps on MBP 2.4 with 4GB of RAM. Not bad but still could be better. But the first step is there:rolleyes:
 
Performance of Flash 10 Beta 2 on White iMac 24

andy721 said:
10.46 fps on http://www.craftymind.com/factory/gu...ark_Flex3.html without the new flash. Wonder how fast it will go with the new one, and why does everyone say it wont work with most sites thats kind of a disappointment.
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I just tried it: on the old Flash 9 I got about 9.4 fps while on the new Flash 10 Beta 2 I got about 25 fps which is definately an improvement. (there was of course some spikes to higher numbers but the fps tended to stabilize toward these numbers).
I also tried Youtube: no problem detected.

I uninstalled the old Flash with the uninstaller before installing Flash 10 Beta 2. I used Safari 3.1.2 on Leopard 10.5.4 the measure both of these numbers.

I performed these on the white iMac 24 in my signature.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

Mavimao said:
Maybe I'll actually be able to watch a Youtube clip at a decent framerate in full screen! My god! Just imagine that!!! :rolleyes:
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I can't imagine anyone watching a youtube video at full screen.
 
Cooler Mac

I have noticed that my Mac seems to be cooler and not need to have the fans going at 6000 rpm while playing a basic game. I have not noticed anything about the speed of the games.
 
Flash Sucks

I prefer 0 frames per second. Flash Sucks. Animation of web pages is annoying. I wish PithHelmet would get updated. (Yes, I paid.) It's a great add on for Safari that lets one customize the settings for each domain to kill Flash for those sites that abuse it and other blinking, flashing, dancing junk.
 
who cares
flash on the iPhone would be nice
but imagine how slow safari would be
on the iPods/itouch

Maybe there trying to convince jobs
it can work
 
pubwvj said:
I prefer 0 frames per second. Flash Sucks. Animation of web pages is annoying. I wish PithHelmet would get updated. (Yes, I paid.) It's a great add on for Safari that lets one customize the settings for each domain to kill Flash for those sites that abuse it and other blinking, flashing, dancing junk.
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I found that an added benefit of 'NoScript' (FF extension) is that it kills all that flashing nonsense .
 
PORN! People
Porn is the main reason flash is getting the speed boost
the porn industry has a huge number of flash programmers
working and lobbing Adobe concerning flash. It a multibillion
dollar industry that uses and needs flash to operate and make there
cash.
 
Hmm, I've never had problems with Flash 9 on Mac OS X, either on my Macbook Pro (first generation, 2.66Ghz) or my Mac Pro, though it being slow on the latter is probably unexpected.

I'm hearing lots of headaches with this beta, though, so I'm not going to bother until they are ironed out.
 
Flash 10 Beta Working but CNN isn't

It works for me on my Mac Pro but CNN web site doesn't see the plug in there and tells me I need to install Flash whereas YouTube is working. Is this just me or has anyone else seen this CNN behavior with the beta?
 
Well it seems like Intel users are getting a much bigger speed boost about 3x while I only got 1.75x on my PPC. I would love to see that kind of speed boost on my iMac.

So even after this update are people finding that flash is slower in OSX then in Windows on the same machine? I wouldn't think the OS would effect the speed so much, as would the processors architecture. The funny thing was I just thought flash was always slow, didn't know this was only an OSX thing, show's how little I use PC's :p

Oh, and youtube does not run for me, Hulu does though, so that's kinda weird or is Hulu doing H.264 flash?
 
reallynotnick said:
Well it seems like Intel users are getting a much bigger speed boost about 3x while I only got 1.75x on my PPC. I would love to see that kind of speed boost on my iMac.
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Flash was ALWAYS slow on PowerPC. On my Powerbook G4 867MHz, even back in 2003 when this was considered a fast machine, many flash animations would drop frames and be unviewable. Moving to my Macbook Pro and all flash played beautifully, no frame dropping or audio skipping, and flash-based sites became a much more enjoyable experience.

I suspect there is a lot of optimized Intel code in the Flash plugin, and that's why the performance is disproportionately bad on PowerPC versions. Right now Adobe has almost no incentive to optimize for PowerPC, since it is well on the way out, so don't expect to see too much improvement. :(
 
^That's true unfortunately. Flash has always had poor performance, and I believe that with each new version, it always got worse. I'd like to see a trend reversal but I'm not optimistic.
 
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