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Next Version of Windows to Incorporate Advanced Touch Features
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This will get scrapped a year before launch of Windows 7 because they couldn't get it working. Windows 7 will end up being a theme update to Vista with more "Confirmation" dialog boxes.
Yeah... By 2010 (or even after considering all the delays that are probably encountered along the way) Microsoft will indeed blow away today's iPhone. By 2010, Apple will also blow away today's iPhone and raise the bar years above and ahead of Microsoft.
So wait a minute, I think I get what you're saying..... by my calculations, and by adding up all your words here with a abacus, we will have ......... Star Trek computers in 10 years!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Consultant and Antares,
You are abs. correct. Vista was supposed to be windows version to end all windows version and ended up being 5 years late and sucking harder then XP.
For some Microsoft blogger to write this is indeed some frustrated employee, jealous of Apple's attention. I experienced this first hand as I went to a 4th of July party and one of the guests there was a MS person who, as I passed the iphone around, (to EVERYONE's amazement ) he would just say Windows Mobile already did that, or it would do that,but he could not keep his eyes off my iphone.
Microsoft people are seriously jealous, as they WISHED they worked for Giant that didn't suck or released mediocrity after mediocrity.
And every time there is an announcement where MS tries to grab apple limelite, just like this one is, some fool will post how THIS TIME microsoft is going to raise up and produce great product and smash Apple.
Try again fools.
Below average products are in MS's DNA. It is almost like you wanted your hair color to "just change" overnight. Not without a whole lot of dye can this happen to MS, and even then it will look like a cheap Zune-like dye job.
You are abs. correct. Vista was supposed to be windows version to end all windows version and ended up being 5 years late and sucking harder then XP.
For some Microsoft blogger to write this is indeed some frustrated employee, jealous of Apple's attention. I experienced this first hand as I went to a 4th of July party and one of the guests there was a MS person who, as I passed the iphone around, (to EVERYONE's amazement ) he would just say Windows Mobile already did that, or it would do that,but he could not keep his eyes off my iphone.
Microsoft people are seriously jealous, as they WISHED they worked for Giant that didn't suck or released mediocrity after mediocrity.
And every time there is an announcement where MS tries to grab apple limelite, just like this one is, some fool will post how THIS TIME microsoft is going to raise up and produce great product and smash Apple.
Try again fools.
Below average products are in MS's DNA. It is almost like you wanted your hair color to "just change" overnight. Not without a whole lot of dye can this happen to MS, and even then it will look like a cheap Zune-like dye job.
From Vista Wiki:
That happened around 2004. Vista was supposed to come out around 2003 and "Blackcomb" (Windows 7) was supposed to be what Vista was supposed to be. Sadly it looked like MS got caught up in Feature/Requirement creap (I hate that with a passion btw).
Touché.
Yeah, some people whip out that "Microsoft is copying Apple again" line far too easily.
Hey, I hope he's right! While I'm not a fan of MS, Windoze or anything else on the PC side... we need more than just one company to be responsible for innovation in the tech industry. MS has been copying Apple for DECADES, so it's easy to assume they're just blowing more smoke, a la the Zune, Vista, etc.
But if they DO come up with something worth more than a passing glance, I know Apple will find a way to yet again leapfrog it, and THAT'S good for every Mac user!
But if they DO come up with something worth more than a passing glance, I know Apple will find a way to yet again leapfrog it, and THAT'S good for every Mac user!
I completely agree.
As marketshare grows, more people get to touch Apple products. People who buy Apple products end up telling their friends to buy Apple products. Once people use Apple products on a daily basis, you can't help getting hooked. (Unless you're a bitter angry cynic who has a hard time letting go of your old comfortable ways.)
As a former windows zealot and mac hater myself I find this statement to be ridiculous. You're claiming that Windows is better because it's harder for the average user?
I am a Apple fanboy. I am also tech support for an office full of Windows PCs and servers. I regretfully provide windows support for my friends and family. I know how to do some "pretty complicated stuff" on both Macs and PCs.
In my mind, 90% of users are "average" users, maybe higher. Why should setting up a LAN be complicated? Why should you take pride in being one of a select few that knows how to use an operating system to it's highest potential? Should power and ease be mutually exclusive?
I want to work on my computer, be it Mac or PC. I want to run Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Final Cut Pro, Terminal, Textmate, Suitcase and Mail at once and never encounter a hiccup. If something crashes, I want to be able to keep working without incident.
I want to be productive, I don't want to have to be a tech support guru to get my work done. If windows could have allowed me to work with the same ease, I probably would have never considered a switch, but since I have switched I am an Apple fanboy.
I made it to page 2 of this thread and came to the realization that Quillz is either Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer.
Ooh, i wonder if this will be as earth-shattering as Microsoft's iPod killer One things for sure though, this article pretty much ensures that my next macbook will have multi-touch. Thanks!
And that reason is; some people think that calling other people childish names is a meaningful contribution to a conversation. And the ones that are older than 18 have need to grow up.
And Mactard and Fanboy are in the same category as Micro$oft or WinDoze as far as I'm concerned.
If someone in 2010-ish trying to install Windows 7 system on a Pentium three, I'd like to direct them to any number of refurbishers, repo-depots, and off-lease resellers where they can probably find a nice 3-year-old Dell Core 2 Duo for $200 that will easily run the basic edition of Windows 7. Not the supreme edition with all the
And I'm not down on the Pentium three; one of our main edit suites is a P3 running Windows NT, and man, it's rock-solid. I'm shocked every time I sit down at that machine. But I'm not dumb enough to think I can upgrade it, and frankly we're not going to put the money into it, but it works perfectly.
And that reason is; some people think that calling other people childish names is a meaningful contribution to a conversation. And the ones that are older than 18 have need to grow up.
And Mactard and Fanboy are in the same category as Micro$oft or WinDoze as far as I'm concerned.
If someone in 2010-ish trying to install Windows 7 system on a Pentium three, I'd like to direct them to any number of refurbishers, repo-depots, and off-lease resellers where they can probably find a nice 3-year-old Dell Core 2 Duo for $200 that will easily run the basic edition of Windows 7. Not the supreme edition with all the
And I'm not down on the Pentium three; one of our main edit suites is a P3 running Windows NT, and man, it's rock-solid. I'm shocked every time I sit down at that machine. But I'm not dumb enough to think I can upgrade it, and frankly we're not going to put the money into it, but it works perfectly.
Actually, the original purpose of "Longhorn" (Vista) was to update XP as a hold-over before "Blackcomb" which is now "Windows 7." It began pulling features from Blackcomb and Longhorn started some feature creepaction. At this point (mid 2004) with a lot of the update features (and things you see in Vista today) intact, Microsoft killed the "update of XP" idea and then started fresh. They basically took a year to reorganize (Sound familiar? Copland......) and chugged out today's Vista in a year and a half.
I think it was intended to be a complete rebuild, but coming from the roots of the XP-add-on history, the features were designed as enhancements to XP, so that's what the OS ended up being.
Now they're on to the actual Blackcomb and the blunder of longhorn is a mistake they will *try* never make again. I think, however, they realize that this is more of a do-or-die situation. If they release another crappy OS, it's over for them. Linux and Mac OS will conquer all.
EDIT: Wow, beat by a long-shot by Diamond.G. Thanks for the backup, though.
-Clive
Innovative MS Windows Touch computer in 2010, or OS X Touch Devices (iPhone or iPod Touch) today...
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The key thing should be that they are satisfying their customers. If their next-gen OS is so buggy and unusable that people are going back to the previous one, what type of confindence does that inspire? What type of loyalty does that create? I think if Steve Jobs was getting word that many of Leopard customers were reinstalling Tiger, he'd do everything in his power to fix Leopard to get keep those customers happy. Your "KEY" vision is extremely short-sighted.
The mouse is not dead because there is no substitute for it at the moment, but it doesn't mean it's not obsolete. It's just like dish washing machines and automobiles... everybody knows there was no progress for the past 30 years, and that manufacturers could be doing a lot better. But because nobody does anything decently new we are all forced to use obsolete technology.
Same for the iphone. It took Apple to show phone companies an alternative interface. Companies like Sony and Nokia were only competing on gadget add ons, basically third party technology that they license. But they did nothing to improve their base products.
Competition doesn't always mean progress. It just means marketing and price wars with no improvements. Look at PC cases. In 20 years none of the many thousands that came out ever managed to look half way decent.
You've made an interesting post, and although to an extent this is true, remember that in 1983 MS was given full access to Apple's Mac software code (If they didn't copy it for Windows they were far stupider than if they used it), and it took them 12 years to fully take advantage of that, now they did make it a lot better in that time, more so than Apple did, but that was a long time, and MS was a far more innovative company then.
FWIW on any computer bigger than an iPod I'd rather use a Mouse/Trackpad and keyboard as it requires far less hand movement, though an "Apple style" trackpad with two-finger-ness is very useful!
As long as there's a one-touch "CTRL-ALT-DEL" button. It'll be used a lot.
It'll need to be a hard button like on the iPhone (home button) since you need to be RUNNING the OS to recognize touch screen jestures...
Next version of whatever
Well what can I say. Apple has always been ahead of the game by years. The next version of windows is due in 2010. Add a few more years for Microsoft's punctuality in releasing products. By then Apple would have taken another 10 years leap ahead of anybody in the market and we'll have similar news about various companies trying to compete with Apple. The best they (other companies) can do is feel better now about topping Apple 10 years hence. That's the closest they can get.
Well what can I say. Apple has always been ahead of the game by years. The next version of windows is due in 2010. Add a few more years for Microsoft's punctuality in releasing products. By then Apple would have taken another 10 years leap ahead of anybody in the market and we'll have similar news about various companies trying to compete with Apple. The best they (other companies) can do is feel better now about topping Apple 10 years hence. That's the closest they can get.
The point of my comment was that on the one hand, he was complaining because MS increased system-requirement in the XP - Vista-transition, while he merrily described how Apple is also increasing system-requirements and dropping support for older processors. His comment was basically that MS is wrong in increasing system-regs, whereas there's nothing wrong with Apple doing the exactly same thing. Hell, he even went on to describe how Vista is slower on same hardware as XP is (which is propably true) and how keeps getting faster with each release. And that means that whereas MS is actually justified in increasing system-regs (since the OS would be too slow on older hardware), Apple has no such reason, since the OS just keeps on getting faster. According to him, the only reason Apple increases the system-regs of OS X is that they could sell more hardware.
And he said all that like it was a good thing. And he said all that while complaining about Microsoft increasing system-regs for Vista.
I say bring it on. I would love to see some competition on the OS side of things. Mac OS X is wonderful, but Apple continuously cripples the hardware and creates nice looking machines with very littler performance variations. I would love to see Windows being able to compete blow for blow with Mac OS X, or Mac OS X running on PCs so that we can get some kick @$$ hardware to run a beautiful OS. Otherwise, Apple will always be slightly behind in the hardware bracket.
remember when vista/longhorn was announced?? it was supposed to be revolutionary and change everything on PCs. we all know how revolutionary it really is when it came out. every feature announced 2-3 years before it actually comes out can be called revolutionary, but the real revolutionary features are the ones that are delivered and done right.
imagine apple announcing the iphone features 3yrs ago, it would still have been revolutionary but by the time they released it, it would have been copied by everyone else andthe features themselves would have lost their value. Its important to have vision of what the requirements of the users will be when the product comes out, and trying to fulfill those requirements, rather than trying to fulfill today's user's requirements 3 yrs in the future.
imagine apple announcing the iphone features 3yrs ago, it would still have been revolutionary but by the time they released it, it would have been copied by everyone else andthe features themselves would have lost their value. Its important to have vision of what the requirements of the users will be when the product comes out, and trying to fulfill those requirements, rather than trying to fulfill today's user's requirements 3 yrs in the future.