Next Year's iPhone Said to Include Iris Scanner to Authenticate With Your Eyes

[Tompkinson]

The technology has never failed, not once, only when I have had wax on my finger or water has it not scanned so kind of a non issue.

TouchID never works for me when fingertips are wet or even slightly damp - rest of the time it works fine for me.

Our Neighbour is 85 yo - very tech savvy inventor - he has never got touch ID to work for him, he would love an iris scanner.
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Why do people ALWAYS immediately assume that adding feature X means the removal of feature Y? Did Apple get rid of passwords when they added fingerprints?

I wonder about that too.
Perhaps because people are ALWAYS afraid of losing what they have been used to, even though they simultaneously love to complain about "missing innovation"? Must be some thing in our nature ;-)
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Does Apple realize that HP and Microsoft has Iris scanning already, I have an HP laptop that has Iris scanning and it works extremely well.

No, I expect this is news to them, as they hardly do any research. Apple will be grateful to you for bringing it to their attention, thus avoiding potential embarrassment had they announced the feature as their own innovation.

I have a Windows phone that has Iris scanning also and it works extremely well a also.

Good to know, I have never used it, I am sure it will prove to be useful in one way or another.

 

[kdarling]

Please let me know where your "ten times less likely" figure comes from. What study are you getting that from that was done on Iphone fingerprint scan vs Iphone Iris scan. I'd be very interested.......since Apple hasnt come out with it yet.

I didn't say anything about the iPhone. I was giving general iris vs fingerprint data.

I know I have scanned by finger in the neighborhood of 200 times and the amount it has failed......due to issues on my part, mind you, not the tech, has been 3 times.

You're talking about failure to recognize, or false rejection. I was talking about false acceptance. Totally different things.

The technology has never failed, not once, only when I have had wax on my finger or water has it not scanned so kind of a non issue.

Either it failed or it did not. The reason doesn't matter. I've had TouchID fail many times when my finger was wet. It's just the way that particular kind of sensor works. A short circuit from the ring across the face of the sensor prevents reading the finger's ridges from behind.

And that's okay. All biometric methods will have both false rejection and false acceptance. The key is to have as little of the first, with almost zero of the second.

When a phone has both kinds of sensors, at least the owner has a choice depending on their situation.

 

[rjohnstone]

The lumia 950 had it before the galaxy s7

Lumia 950 uses Windows Hello facial recognition, not iris scanning.
MS only made the iris scanning portion available on the desktop.

 

[MagnusVonMagnum]

So Apple saw Microsoft implement a clunky horrible face scanner and so Apple thought, "Hey, why take a fraction of a second with a fingerprint scanner when we can have someone stand there with the device telling them to move it this way and that way and hold it closer and take much longer instead! What a great idea! Perhaps Apple just likes to steal ideas these days even when they're BAD IDEAS. I believe that Microsoft style face scanner has been easily hacked and fooled lately for that matter (using 3D models based on very low res photos).

 

[MH01]

But if you boost the power it'll do laser eye surgery... now are you tempted?

"You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?"

Water proof iPhone + laser : sharks with laser beams!!! Win!!

 

[Mr Staunton]

Great, not only do I have to worry about my phone being stolen and my hand being chopped off too, I now have to worry about my eyes being gouged out too.

 

[smoledman]

Honestly iris scanning is a gimmick at this point compared to fingerprint ID. It involves 1-2 more steps and you have to hold the device at an angle that is unnatural. Also glasses would surely interfere, especially sunglasses or transitions that are darkened.

What we really need is better fingerprint readers.

 

[anthorumor]

Next year's iPhone 7 = today's Note 7.

 

[Loco Emperor]

So Apple saw Microsoft implement a clunky horrible face scanner and so Apple thought, "Hey, why take a fraction of a second with a fingerprint scanner when we can have someone stand there with the device telling them to move it this way and that way and hold it closer and take much longer instead! What a great idea! Perhaps Apple just likes to steal ideas these days even when they're BAD IDEAS. I believe that Microsoft style face scanner has been easily hacked and fooled lately for that matter (using 3D models based on very low res photos).

You believe wrong. I'm a twin and my brother can't access my computer nor I is despite being 100% identical.

 

[smoledman]

Great, not only do I have to worry about my phone being stolen and my hand being chopped off too, I now have to worry about my eyes being gouged out too.

If you are dealing with somebody who is ruthless enough to start chopping fingers and gouging eyes, phone security is the least of your worries.
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Next year's iPhone 7 = today's Note 7.

Does anyone actually use the iris scanner on the Note 7? I heard it's quite clunky.

 

[macUser2007]

Some of the Chinese phones had this feature last year.

Samsung's just introduced Note 7 has it, too, as MC notes above. My guess is the Galaxy S/Edge will have it, too.

The feature seems to work rather well and it's more secure than FPS.

 

[oopsroger]

running iCopying machines now, aren't we?

 

[JayIsAwesome]

If you are dealing with somebody who is ruthless enough to start chopping fingers and gouging eyes, phone security is the least of your worries.
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Does anyone actually use the iris scanner on the Note 7? I heard it's quite clunky.

I used it on the Note7 preview I got a few weeks ago. Worked pretty well

 

[vertsix]

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[44267547]

Next year's iPhone 7 = today's Note 7.

And the fact they both are vastly different, even with Samsung's advantages. I'm sure Apple will capitalize on all Samsung's short comings.

 

[pondhopper]

Apple is planning to include iris scanning capabilities on the tenth-anniversary iPhone launching in 2017, according to a Chinese-language MoneyDJ report translated by DigiTimes. The latter website, citing supply chain sources, previously said the feature would not debut on iPhones until at least 2018.

An iris scanner could complement or replace Touch ID as a way to verify a user's identity, enabling iPhone users to unlock their smartphone, make payments, and more by authenticating with their eyes. A person's iris, or the circular colored muscle of the eye, contains a complex and random pattern that is unique to each individual.

An iris scanner on a smartphone would not be unprecedented, as Samsung included one on the new Galaxy Note7 released earlier this month.

Taiwan-based supplier Xintec, an affiliate of Apple manufacturer TSMC, will begin mass production of iris-recognition chips in 2017, likely in an effort to secure orders from Apple and other smartphone vendors next year:Xintec said the company does not comment on rumors or speculation about specific products or customer orders.

Based on rumors, Apple's tenth-anniversary iPhone is shaping up to be a more significant upgrade compared to the iPhone 7 series expected at Apple's September 7 event. Other rumors surrounding the so-called iPhone 8 include a 5.8-inch curved OLED screen, glass casing, an embedded or completely removed home button, wireless charging, an enhanced Taptic Engine, and more.

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[doublepost=1472696409][/doublepost]No thank you Apple, my eyes (and their data) belong to ME.

 

[iMi]

Microsoft has done it already with Windows Hello on the Surface Pro 4 and the Lumia 950/950XL.

The technology works extremely well on the Surface Pro 4, except the Surface uses facial recognition. The Lumia uses iris scanning and is still in beta. It works fairly well from what I've read and has improved lately. It's a viable option, but most people say it's slower than the finger scanning tech.

I ordered the Lumia and it should be here Friday. I'll report back on how well it works

 

[TheGuyUpNorth]

And the fact they both are vastly different, even with Samsung's advantages. I'm sure Apple will capitalize on all Samsung's short comings.

Well Apple better get busy on capitalizing on Sammy's AMOLED display which has been ranked as the best display for two years running. I suppose Apple is just waiting for the right moment to say "here is our new AMOLED display, and we think you're really going to like it."

 

[mtneer]

After reading a bunch of negative response to this, I wonder how much of this is driven by the fact that Samsung introduced this first. If Apple had introduced an iris scanner first, would the MR user base be ecstatic about the "innovation"? I wonder...

 

[44267547]

Well Apple better get busy on capitalizing on Sammy's AMOLED display which has been ranked as the best display for two years running. I suppose Apple is just waiting for the right moment to say "here is our new AMOLED display, and we think you're really going to like it."

Let's hope so. Because Apple needs a home run in the iPhone market and the 2017 iPhone better set the market on fire. Time will tell.

 

[D-Dave]

So, if Samsung implements something first and Apple follows it's common business practice, while Samsung is a copycat the other way around. Sry had to say it

I heard Samsung's implementation of this sucks. Wonder if Apple will do any better? There are so many reasons why this won't work well (lighting issues, contact lenses/glasses, distance, resolution, etc), I wouldn't expect it to be any better, tbh.

Well, not sure who came out first....but the surface pro 4 has this feature and it works great with and without glasses and under all lighting conditions unless there is stright sunlight on the sensor (which seems to be too much IR-Light to let the sensor make out what your eye looks like...it also works nicely on the 950xl ... you just have to get used to hold it in reading position before the screen unlocks...first few days, this feels funny, then it works fine...under certain conditions this feature may be more comfortable then fingerprint in others not...lets wait how both systems evolve

 

[Ramchi]

Microsoft has done it already with Windows Hello on the Surface Pro 4 and the Lumia 950/950XL.

The technology works extremely well on the Surface Pro 4, except the Surface uses facial recognition. The Lumia uses iris scanning and is still in beta. It works fairly well from what I've read and has improved lately. It's a viable option, but most people say it's slower than the finger scanning tech.

I ordered the Lumia and it should be here Friday. I'll report back on how well it works

I have Lumia 950XL and it works flawlessly most of the times.....with glasses on that too in dark environments....

 

[d0nK]

Super...
Now, where's the news about the new mbp's?

 

[Keniutek]

If this makes the bezels go away, GO FOR IT Apple.

 

[D1STORT1ON]

OK, I have a lumia 950 phone that uses the iris scanning, so here's some info.

You "train" it just like the finger print scan. Doing several times it with different lighting improves accuracy.
It does work with contact lenses, but I don't know about colored contacts since I don't wear those
It does work with or without glasses (you can train it both ways if you want but I didn't)
It does work with sunglasses unless they are mirrored.
Distance does affect the scan
Bright lighting seems to affect it also, but I haven't trained it outside in bright light, so that might improve things.

Overall, it is ok, I do prefer touch ID since I don't have to hold my phone near my face and in the car touch ID is really much better