Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Since the courts have determine using your finger to unlock a device does not self incriminate this is no better and the authorities woild make you unlock your device by eye. Passcode requires thinking that would self incriminate you.
 
Apple dropped the ball this year. There's no need to speculate over next years model, because there will also be plenty of news from the competition.
If Apple wants to increase sales, they need to do something exciting, not incremental BS to optimize their supply chain.

You don't even know what the iPhone 7 is going to have spec-wise, so how do you know if they 'dropped the ball'? I keep hearing it will have dual-camera which means computational photography of the type that the Light16 camera does: https://www.light.co/camera.

Computational Photography will be the 'watch word' for the upcoming Apple event, just you see.
 
I can see situations where one method of biometric authentication would be preferable over another. With ApplePay, TouchID would be better, because you can more easily authenticate while the phone is on the sensor pad.

In certain situations where a user's hands might be wet, in gloves, or otherwise occupied, iris scanning might be a preferable option.

And unlocking the phone first thing in the morning while bleary-eyed and barely conscious seems like a better fit for TouchID than an eye scan. ;)
 
I live in a cold-weather state, and I would love to be able to unlock my phone without taking off my gloves! I just got my SE in April, my first phone with TouchID. I'll be interested to see, come winter, how often I feel put out by needing to remove gloves to unlock my phone, and how often I feel it would be much more convenient to have an iris scanner.

BTW the same could be said of my previous iPhone 5c: I had to take off my glove in winter to tap in the passcode. So perhaps it won't be as big a deal as all that.

And what are you going to do with it after it's unlocked? Look at it? You still need to use your fingers, lol.

I live in Canada, so I get where you're coming from, but I still don't think it will be any faster than touchID or a passcode. Probably less reliable in low-light (winter) conditions, too.

I'm not opposed to iris scanning per se, I just don't see any practical application for it in real-world use.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mwd25
I thought people walking around holding up their iPads and iPad Pro's to take pictures looked ridiculous. Now we get to see everyone holding their iPhone and iPad up to their face to unlock or pay for something!

I can't think of anything more stupid. But I'm sure Apple will think of something...
 
Even if an iris scanner is employed, I don’t' see Apple doing away with the Touch ID. Its too easy and convenient to use when picking up the device and wanting to use it.
I can see the possibility of having some things stored behind security that requires an iris scan, a fingerprint scan, AND a password ("which missiles did you want to launch, sir?"). Personally, I love Touch ID (even though I've got the slower iteration, on the 6). If they implement iris scanning in an actual phone (you know they're testing it in the lab along with everything else, including the dog bark authenticator), I want it to look as cool as the picture attached to this article, with all sorts of SciFi-looking lines whizzing around a picture of your eye on the screen as it works.
[doublepost=1472673873][/doublepost]
Now we get to see everyone holding their iPhone and iPad up to their face to unlock or pay for something!
How many people would actually use Apple Pay on an iPad, at a checkout register?
 
  • Like
Reactions: S.B.G
This is such a gimmick feature and not as easy as touch id. It could be possible if they are getting rid of the home button though.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mwd25
You can play with iris scanning using eydD from the app store.

I can see the possibility of having some things stored behind security that requires an iris scan, a fingerprint scan, AND a password ("which missiles did you want to launch, sir?"). Personally, I love Touch ID (even though I've got the slower iteration, on the 6). If they implement iris scanning in an actual phone (you know they're testing it in the lab along with everything else, including the dog bark authenticator), I want it to look as cool as the picture attached to this article, with all sorts of SciFi-looking lines whizzing around a picture of your eye on the screen as it works.
[doublepost=1472673873][/doublepost]
How many people would actually use Apple Pay on an iPad, at a checkout register?
 
  • Like
Reactions: CarlJ
I don't believe this rumor for a second. Iris scan is not as reliable or fast, opens Apple to "you blinded me" law suits, doesn't really improve anything, and Apple has spent years getting users used to TouchID and improving the system.

Edited i wrote retinal instead of iris

Why do people ALWAYS immediately assume that adding feature X means the removal of feature Y? Did Apple get rid of passwords when they added fingerprints?

There are OBVIOUSLY circumstances where iris scanning is less convenient than fingerprints, for example in the rapid unlock of a device as you pick it up or pull it out your pocket. There are ALSO circumstances in which it would be a whole lot MORE convenient --- eg every time you are already interacting with the device and you would be interrupted to ask for your fingerprint. (For example when buying anything via ApplePay on the Web, buying from the iTunes store, wanting to use 1Password). In these latter circumstances, if the device could quickly scan your iris (and hell, maybe throw in some face recognition as well) at the point where you click buy, or launch the password-protected app or whatever, and just go ahead with the transaction without bothering you for a fingerprint, that would be a mitzvah, no?
 
  • Like
Reactions: kdarling
Is anyone else concerned about strong IR light blasting your eyes to take iris picture? I read somewhere that the IR lights are harmful to eyes...

I mean think about it.. Even visible bright LED are painful to look directly... why wouldn't IR be?
(iris scanner uses IR light to take picture of it...)
 
Nah, just leave me with touch ID. I'm not always looking at my phone when unlocking, and it would be faster to pull it out of my pocket with my thumb on it and have it unlocked by the time it is facing up than to pull it out, turn it on, look into it, let it take it's time because I'm in a dark area, and then unlock.

Then you can still use Touch ID and let us use the iris scanner.... :)
 
the idea of Iris scanner, while seemingly "gimmicky" and probably not going to be a primary unlock method by most, is far from useless.

Just imagine living in a northern, cold climate. where in the winter time, the temps can have ranges from -5c and wet snow to -30c. And this is the good part of the country.

Iris scanners let you take the phone out of your pokcet, and unlock it, without ever having to take off your gloves. With TouchID you have to remove gloves to be able to unlock your phone, even captivate compatible gloves wont work with fingerprint sensors.

Now, carry around a stylus. And what you've got is a phone that can be used completely without needing to take off layers of gloves/mittens. right there, is a good reason for the option of using the iris scanner
 
  • Like
Reactions: kdarling
It's pretty dam sad, just days away from Apple's brand new iPhone being announced, almost all the media and web sites can talk and/or get excited about is NEXT years model.

That's pretty damming, no matter how you look at it. :(
 
Does Apple realize that HP and Microsoft has Iris scanning already, I have an HP laptop that has Iris scanning and it works extremely well.

I have a Windows phone that has Iris scanning also and it works extremely well a also.
 
And what are you going to do with it after it's unlocked? Look at it? You still need to use your fingers, lol.

Voice control. Stylus.

Or even those gloves with the finger pad that works on capacitive screens.

I live in Canada, so I get where you're coming from, but I still don't think it will be any faster than touchID or a passcode. Probably less reliable in low-light (winter) conditions, too.

It uses IR. It works in the dark.

It's also fast, and at least ten times less likely to give a false positive than finrgerprints.

Also a nice option for people with wet or injured fingers at work or play, who can swipe the screen okay, but whose fingers would fail to work with a fingerprint scanner.

In short, having both an iris and fingerprint scanner give you more options.
 
It's pretty dam sad, just days away from Apple's brand new iPhone being announced, almost all the media and web sites can talk and/or get excited about is NEXT years model.

That's pretty damming, no matter how you look at it. :(
Yeah, Apple is doomed for sure!
 
No worries, the 2020 iPhone is said to include an thought scanner to authenticate you with your brainwaves and the things you are thinking in your very own mind. Entrust your inner most privacy with a corporation. /s
 
Does Apple realize that HP and Microsoft has Iris scanning already, ...
So what? My brothers laptop had iris scanning 5 or 6 years ago (at the time it worked like crap, BTW). Apple has never really been about being the absolute first to do a thing (mp3 players, smartphones, etc.), they're more interested in doing something really well, and they are often the first to pull parts together in a way that works really well and that is easy for the average consumer to grasp (iPod, iPhone, etc.). In answer to your question, I don't think Apple really cares what HP or Microsoft has done.
[doublepost=1472683320][/doublepost]
No thanks, but some might like this feature.
But if you boost the power it'll do laser eye surgery... now are you tempted?
 
It's also fast, and at least ten times less likely to give a false positive than finrgerprints.

Please let me know where your "ten times less likely" figure comes from. What study are you getting that from that was done on Iphone fingerprint scan vs Iphone Iris scan. I'd be very interested.......since Apple hasnt come out with it yet.
I know I have scanned by finger in the neighborhood of 200 times and the amount it has failed......due to issues on my part, mind you, not the tech, has been 3 times. The technology has never failed, not once, only when I have had wax on my finger or water has it not scanned so kind of a non issue.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.