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I still have my 2nd Gen Nexus 7 but it has a cracked screen. I don't know if I'm willing to pay for a replacement when it's almost the same cost of the device. The build quality definitely leaves a lot to be desired. Would I purchase another one? Probably not.

Sold mine, never looked back. Explore other larger alternatives, 7 inch tablets will be extinct soon! :D
 
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Performance/Price: Good screen, fast processor and fair price for storage upgrades. I never felt the need for a tablet, but these days we have a lot of ebooks. For $230 or so I think it is a very good deal. The retina iPad mini is almost twice as expensive - just for reading I felt it was way too much.

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Just imagine how anemic a tablet Apple would release today at a $230 price point.....
 
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I have NEVER seen ANY lag on my Nexus 5.
How have you had stock KitKat lag?



Anyway as to the topic... well fair enough if you don't like it, sell it, but it's not fair to consider the Nexus 7 as cheap just because it's price is, it's a very well built device. I have the 2012 one and use it every single day and I love it. It works great for me and is dependable and well made and performs great, at the time it was better than the iPad Mini with screen and CPU, the GPU of the iPad pipped it.

But having had one, I don't know if I would buy anything other than Nexus for Android.
I have read different rumours about this years Nexus, some say HTC are making an 8" one, others proclaim Asus are still making a 7" one with the new K1 chip.

Guess we'll have to wait and see?
It is useless to speak with you because you clearly are in denial ....

YES, stock android lags, on every devices.
I actually need to reboot my nexus 7 (as my wife's galaxy S4) from time to time to make it snappy again.
But I know, your nexus 5 is just perfect.

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Sold mine, never looked back. Explore other larger alternatives, 7 inch tablets will be extinct soon! :D

7" tablets have a future.
They fit the gap between 6" phablets and full sized 9-10" tablets.
Maybe the market is migrating to 8" tablets, but they are a little too big for people with real portability as a primary target.

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I think pure Google will always come as a bit of a shock, to anyone used to Touch Wiz or Sense. Android looks a bit bare bones without a skin. However, if you stick with it, and learn to do everything the pure Android way, it's actually pretty nice.

Actually vanilla android is the only version with a little bit of coherence and good performance ... Sense UI comes in second places IMHO. Don't even want to speak about TouchWiz ....
 
It is useless to speak with you because you clearly are in denial ....

YES, stock android lags, on every devices.
I actually need to reboot my nexus 7 (as my wife's galaxy S4) from time to time to make it snappy again.
But I know, your nexus 5 is just perfect.


And it's useless speaking with you because so far as your concerned you are always right. You stubbornly refuse to accept anyone else's experiences to yours if they are different. As said my Nexus 5 has never lagged, I have no idea why you does but it is not a general thing that happens to every Nexus 5.
 
It is useless to speak with you because you clearly are in denial ....

YES, stock android lags, on every devices.
I actually need to reboot my nexus 7 (as my wife's galaxy S4) from time to time to make it snappy again.
But I know, your nexus 5 is just perfect.



Sure stock Android lags sometimes but guess what so does iOS. My 5s and iPad Air with the "amazing" A7 processor will still lag from time to time. Neither stock Android or iOS lag enough to bother me since from my experience on both it's few and far between.
 
I had a N7 (the newer model) and enjoyed it but ultimately decided the iPad mini was just better. I think Android is better on phones and I MUCH prefer my Note II phone over my iPhone. I only have the iPhone because work pays for it. However, on tablets, it is a different story.

My biggest problem with the N7 was the lack of responsiveness in the touch interface. I could pinch open and closed to zoom and while doing it notice a split second lag. For example, while pinching, my fingers would have to move a bit before the screen would actually register that I was pinching. Its kind of hard to explain. On the iPad mini it almost always feels fast and smooth. I've noticed this lack of responsiveness on every android tablet I've used (but strangely, not on the Android phones I've used).

Another issue is the form factor. I just prefer 4x3 for tablets. I do a lot of web consumption and reading and I think 4x3 is just better for this. Yes, movies are better in 16x10, but for me, movie watching is not as common as web surfing.

There are more and better tablet apps for the iPad. This isn't a huge deal, but I notice I use more apps on my tablet than I ever do on my phones. I think I mostly just use the smartphones for portable web access, but with a tablet, it feels much more natural to do a lot more. Another advantage to the iPad mini.

I actually found the battery life to be pretty good on my N7. I'm surprised to read so many complaints about it. However, like all Android devices, it sucked on standby time. Ugh! You shut off the screen on an iPad and turn it on a week later, and its still almost the same battery. You try that on an Android device, and it wont turn on, because the battery is now dead.

Anyway, for me, while Android is much better on phones, it just doesn't yet hold its own on tablets.
 
I had a N7 (the newer model) and enjoyed it but ultimately decided the iPad mini was just better. I think Android is better on phones and I MUCH prefer my Note II phone over my iPhone. I only have the iPhone because work pays for it. However, on tablets, it is a different story.

My biggest problem with the N7 was the lack of responsiveness in the touch interface. I could pinch open and closed to zoom and while doing it notice a split second lag. For example, while pinching, my fingers would have to move a bit before the screen would actually register that I was pinching. Its kind of hard to explain. On the iPad mini it almost always feels fast and smooth. I've noticed this lack of responsiveness on every android tablet I've used (but strangely, not on the Android phones I've used).

Another issue is the form factor. I just prefer 4x3 for tablets. I do a lot of web consumption and reading and I think 4x3 is just better for this. Yes, movies are better in 16x10, but for me, movie watching is not as common as web surfing.

There are more and better tablet apps for the iPad. This isn't a huge deal, but I notice I use more apps on my tablet than I ever do on my phones. I think I mostly just use the smartphones for portable web access, but with a tablet, it feels much more natural to do a lot more. Another advantage to the iPad mini.

I actually found the battery life to be pretty good on my N7. I'm surprised to read so many complaints about it. However, like all Android devices, it sucked on standby time. Ugh! You shut off the screen on an iPad and turn it on a week later, and its still almost the same battery. You try that on an Android device, and it wont turn on, because the battery is now dead.

Anyway, for me, while Android is much better on phones, it just doesn't yet hold its own on tablets.

I agree about the touch screen sensibility. It just sucks and the weird thing is, it doesn't happen all the time.
 
It is real multitasking. I suggest you do research instead of posting false information. Not our problem some APPS don't utilize the new API to use the running in background function. But it is real multitasking if they use it. :rolleyes:

I was under the impression that only Apple apps would run in the background for an infinite amount of time, 3rd party apps were limited to a set time.
 
And it's useless speaking with you because so far as your concerned you are always right. You stubbornly refuse to accept anyone else's experiences to yours if they are different. As said my Nexus 5 has never lagged, I have no idea why you does but it is not a general thing that happens to every Nexus 5.

"NEVER"? I seriously doubt that. Because guess what, people say it lags on the forums. Heck, my Nexus 7 lags. :rolleyes:
 
"NEVER"? I seriously doubt that. Because guess what, people say it lags on the forums. Heck, my Nexus 7 lags. :rolleyes:

And what forums are those then? Also if you read my comment properly you will see I have never experiences any lag on MY Nexus 5.

I'll reiterate it so you get it:

I HAVE NEVER EVER EXPERIENCED ANY LAG WITH ANDROID ON MY NEXUS 5!!

Got it? Weather you doubt it or not, it is a fact.
 
And what forums are those then? Also if you read my comment properly you will see I have never experiences any lag on MY Nexus 5.

I'll reiterate it so you get it:

I HAVE NEVER EVER EXPERIENCED ANY LAG WITH ANDROID ON MY NEXUS 5!!

Got it? Weather you doubt it or not, it is a fact.

Again unless your device has a faster processor, more ram, and god helping it, there is no way Your device doesn't lag but all the others (which are the same devices) lag. Maybe you don't know what lag is or you are use to it. Either way we know now that you are full of it.
 
No, the Nexus 7 (2013 model) isn't perfect. But you can't beat it that $200+ which gets you a no fuss, high resolution tablet.

I have greatly enjoyed using both my Nexus 7 tablets (old model and new model).
 
I use an iPhone 4S,iPad 4, 2013 Nexus 7, 2012 Nexus 7 and a Moto G and I don't see any lag at all?? I have developer tools turned on and have the animation set to .5 as well as using Nova Launcher on the Moto G and the 2012 Nexus 7 with animations set at "faster than light"which makes the thing fly with no lag. The purpose of animations on iOS or Android is to hide any perceived lag and I just don't see this at all, keep in mind these are all Kit Kat devices.
 
And what forums are those then? Also if you read my comment properly you will see I have never experiences any lag on MY Nexus 5.

I'll reiterate it so you get it:

I HAVE NEVER EVER EXPERIENCED ANY LAG WITH ANDROID ON MY NEXUS 5!!

Got it? Weather you doubt it or not, it is a fact.

Again unless your device has a faster processor, more ram, and god helping it, there is no way Your device doesn't lag but all the others (which are the same devices) lag. Maybe you don't know what lag is or you are use to it. Either way we know now that you are full of it.

This eternal lag or no lag kiddy fight is getting incredibly tiresome, in this thread as well as countless others. We all define 'lag' differently, that is all. Some call it lag when one pixel appears half a nanosecond after the rest when one is zooming in on a heavy webpage that's still being loaded. Others care less and don't call it lag until there's a two second hang when swiping between home pages. It comes down to different needs, preferences and subjective perception.

Now cut each other some slack, try to see what the other is seeing, and stop ******** up the thread with your senseless bickering. Maybe then we could actually get some useful or even enjoyable discussion going here.
 
This eternal lag or no lag kiddy fight is getting incredibly tiresome, in this thread as well as countless others. We all define 'lag' differently, that is all. Some call it lag when one pixel appears half a nanosecond after the rest when one is zooming in on a heavy webpage that's still being loaded. Others care less and don't call it lag until there's a two second hang when swiping between home pages. It comes down to different needs, preferences and subjective perception.

Now cut each other some slack, try to see what the other is seeing, and stop ******** up the thread with your senseless bickering. Maybe then we could actually get some useful or even enjoyable discussion going here.

Useful discussion would be if you posted your views on lag, it is relevant to the thread too as it is being stated the Nexus 7 lags. Now if you have a problem with the discussion then report it to a moderator, that's what they are there for, don't try to come across as a sort of forum police force.
I should also add you have made 2 comments in this thread including the one above, so perhaps you could comment more to entice the kind if discussion you want. Just a thought..
 
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It is useless to speak with you because you clearly are in denial ....

YES, stock android lags, on every devices.
I actually need to reboot my nexus 7 (as my wife's galaxy S4) from time to time to make it snappy again.
But I know, your nexus 5 is just perfect.

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7" tablets have a future.
They fit the gap between 6" phablets and full sized 9-10" tablets.
Maybe the market is migrating to 8" tablets, but they are a little too big for people with real portability as a primary target.

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Actually vanilla android is the only version with a little bit of coherence and good performance ... Sense UI comes in second places IMHO. Don't even want to speak about TouchWiz ....

Actually I have NEVER had any lag with stock Android.
 
There's no point in arguing about lag. Someone can look at a phone and says it doesn't lag. Another person can look at the same phone and says it does. It depends on what they're used to. If they're used to slow ass devices, then they probably won't even notice a stutter here or there. Also, there are people on the Internet that will defend their device like it's their baby. So you should pretty much take everyone's word about device lag with a grain of salt. I had so many people tell me that their 1st gen nexus 7 didn't lag after months of use, and it was sooo fast. Yeah, BS.
 
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