Nike+ FuelBand SE Now Available in Apple Online Store

[mklaman]

wtf is there to measure while your sleeping...

I've lost over 200lbs in the last 3 years thanks to devices like fuelband, HRM, etc...I love to see graphs and numbers and use them to make me go better, fast, stronger. It pisses me off to see flatlines on my graphs lol

i'm 6'5", 165lbs. losing 200 lbs would have devastating effects on me. point being, people care about different statistics.

i mountain bike, run, slack line, play a bunch of different sports and it keeps me in shape. i also sit at a computer for 8 hours a day while at work. i would love to track my "fuel points" for the fun aspect but I would also like to sleep more soundly at night.

sleep it critical to everyone's activity and it's just as important to monitor because unlike losing weight and eating healthier, sleep doesn't really have anything to "show" for itself.

so to each his own?

 

[pnoman]

My FuelBand SE refuses to emit any kind of Bluetooth signal. Toyed around with it for 2+ hours last night—toggling Bluetooth on FuelBand and iPhone, firmware update, multiple factory resets—just refuses to display any kind of Bluetooth signal. I haven't seen anyone report similar issues. Going to return and order a replacement. Disappointed. Wish the Fitbit had a larger, more glamorous (color) display.

Wish the FuelBand was thinner at the bottom. Then again, Nike's trying to not invest too much into this so as to not compete with the Apple iWatch come late-2014.

Had the same problem. Update the Nike App first! The old version of the App is not Bluetooth 4.0 compatible. After you get the new app, you should be ok.

 

[travis64]

nvm se works great

 

[deeddawg]

having sleep monitoring and a silent alarm is a HUGE selling point to me and many others.

I'm curious, since sleep tracking/monitoring seems important to some people:

What do you do with the info? What actions do you take based on the data gathered and how do you gauge the impact of those actions?

 

[balzz]

We should start up a macrumors group.

 

[Woogaloo]

I'm super active, but the reason I still use my FuelBand mainly is for the watch. Their social ecosystem has always lacked. None of my friends own one, so there's nobody to compete with.

I've swam with mine, showered with it, you name it... not one issue here.

Your last sentence makes me hopeful... I've been wanting to get my wife a FuelBand, but the 'water resistant' rather than waterproof part worries me. I just don't understand why so many fitness watches out there are only water resistant. I could get her a Garmin Forerunner or Timex Ironman, but those are too bulky for her wrist...

 

[xizdun]

Had the same problem. Update the Nike App first! The old version of the App is not Bluetooth 4.0 compatible. After you get the new app, you should be ok.

Everything is up-to-date. Ordered and received a second one (replacement), which is working great. The first one still doesn't show a Bluetooth signal, which I'm going to return. Has to be faulty and not something I'm doing.

 

[heatguts58]

I noticed there was about a 1mm gap with a little wiggle room between the clasp. Is this normal for my SE or for any Fuelband?

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

what is there to measure while your sleeping? Fuelband take all the data from the sensors. combine them, run it through an algorithm and spit out a number. It would take an awful lot of movement while sleeping to generate a fuel point i would think. I wear my bands 24/7 and don't think i've ever seen a point registered that wasn't from getting out of bed during the night.

I basically generate around 2800 / fuelpoints per hour running 8-9min/miles, just dont see how you could do enough movement sleeping to trigger one. Maybe if it just told you the sensors triggered instead running the algorithm.

I have had as many as 400-ish points while 'sleeping'. No idea why, but some nights the point total is lower, some higher. Since it resets to zero at midnight, that's movement since midnight...

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I noticed there was about a 1mm gap with a little wiggle room between the clasp. Is this normal for my SE or for any Fuelband?

Sounds normal...

 

[mireki1975]

i have this gap too

i was a first time jawbone up user....and i switched to the Fuelband SE
first impression : crap!

but day to day i like it more....more than the jawbone !
Fuelband is more motivating

i wish :
a better sleep tracking mode, distance taken and a bug-free iOS Software.

does the battery have a memory effect? perfect to load when the battery sign comes up?

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Your last sentence makes me hopeful... I've been wanting to get my wife a FuelBand, but the 'water resistant' rather than waterproof part worries me. I just don't understand why so many fitness watches out there are only water resistant. I could get her a Garmin Forerunner or Timex Ironman, but those are too bulky for her wrist...

Nike, FWIW recommends users do not swim with it. It's not 'waterproof'... The level of 'water resistance' is good as long as it lasts. Flood it and you are done. I tried to never get mine wet, and it died like I said earlier in this thread, just shy of a year old. Poop happens. Nike stood behind it but they specifically warned me that if there was any water damage, they would not cover it, and also not return the band either (I found that part odd).

ONE THING that I would stress, and it might sound like common sense, but even some of the expensive watches I have owned over the years specify: Do not push the button(s) under water or when the band is wet. It's likely that the seal, if there is one, potentially could allow for water to get in that way. I had a 'waterproof' watch that was supposedly good to 300 meters, apparently only if you didn't push the buttons. I thought that was silly, but never consciously tested it.

And yeah, the trend for 'big and bulky' attached to 'water resistant/water proof' is silly IMO. I mean, we (supposedly) put men on the moon, and the freaking watches have to look like they weigh 20 pounds and could take you out if you swung your arm the wrong way? Come on...

 

[imaginex20]

Nike, FWIW recommends users do not swim with it. It's not 'waterproof'... The level of 'water resistance' is good as long as it lasts. Flood it and you are done. I tried to never get mine wet, and it died like I said earlier in this thread, just shy of a year old. Poop happens. Nike stood behind it but they specifically warned me that if there was any water damage, they would not cover it, and also not return the band either (I found that part odd).

ONE THING that I would stress, and it might sound like common sense, but even some of the expensive watches I have owned over the years specify: Do not push the button(s) under water or when the band is wet. It's likely that the seal, if there is one, potentially could allow for water to get in that way. I had a 'waterproof' watch that was supposedly good to 300 meters, apparently only if you didn't push the buttons. I thought that was silly, but never consciously tested it.

And yeah, the trend for 'big and bulky' attached to 'water resistant/water proof' is silly IMO. I mean, we (supposedly) put men on the moon, and the freaking watches have to look like they weigh 20 pounds and could take you out if you swung your arm the wrong way? Come on...

I showered with the original fuel band and it was fine in the shower...up until I pressed the button...whoops...now the button is stuck. I contacted Nike and they're in the process of sending me a new one. Pretty crappy i say...

 

[Andy Vaughan]

I noticed there was about a 1mm gap with a little wiggle room between the clasp. Is this normal for my SE or for any Fuelband?

I also have this gap. The band also rattles when knocked against anything and has also taken to popping open three or four times a day.

I've sent them a support query because I don't think that's acceptable. Especially the random popping open.

 

[Mr Rabbit]

I also have this gap. The band also rattles when knocked against anything and has also taken to popping open three or four times a day.

I've sent them a support query because I don't think that's acceptable. Especially the random popping open.

My Fuelband (first gen) had a slightly loose clasp the first month or so I owned it. I ended up removing the clasp piece (using the link removal tool) and tightened it slightly using a small philips screwdriver. The clasp has been fine ever since then.

We should start up a macrumors group.

Theres a pretty good thread located at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1417460/

 

[JaySoul]

Anyone had the original FuelBand and now owns the new SE?

 

[Chupa Chupa]

I would be interested to hear your thoughts after spending some time wearing both of these.

I'd love to hear how the "sessions" works vs the Fitbit Force.

Anyone had the original FuelBand and now owns the new SE?

In the name of science I've been looking like a dork for a few days sporting a Force, original FB, and FB SE. Here are a few observations:

The FB SE advertises that it's better calibrated than the FB for machine use. My results are mixed (used sessions feature). Same 30 min elliptical session, same speed. One day I earned approx 1000 points, another just 400. Hmm... To be fair though I attached the FBs to the elipticals arms rather than my own b/c I sometimes use the stationary handles to give my legs a better workout and fight machine boredom. I'll try a session w/ it on my wrist and see if that gets different results.

Everyday use the Force seems more accurate regarding actual steps assuming you put your correct walking and running stride in your settings profile. Both the FB and FB2 undercount steps; the FB by about 20%, the FB SE by 15%.

FB vs FB SE. Nike says it rewrote the algorithm so that "activities" like driving or shaking a ketchup bottle would not earn as many points where as doing actual physical activity would get you more. Basically I found this to be true. On days when I was a lazy slob the FB SE barely registered any points where the original FB got my 1/4 to my daily goal.

Form Factors: I've been a FB users from the start but I really like the Force form factor much better. It's a little obtrusive than the FB, the screen is clearer to read, and swiping though the data seems faster. I don't really care for the way the Force attaches -- that part is clumsy. The FB is better designed in that aspect. I also don't care for the way the Force charges w/ a proprietary cable. The nice thing about the FB is it uses standard USB.

Stair climbing. This is the one feature sorely missing in the Flex and added back in the Force. It's still missing from the FB, so points to Force there.

Bottom line here: they are both great choices but after having limited workout time the past couple of weeks I'm not ready to chose between them. My deciding factor will be if I can get consistent results on the elliptical. Then, despite everything I like about the Force I'll stick w/ the FB. Otherwise its Force FTW.

 

[nwlondonlad]

Ive owned the first generation model which i used daily for about 7 months. During that time I would get 3 weeks use out of a single charge and that was with me being quite active with about 4 gym sessions a week at 2 hrs per session.

I have now sold my old FB and upgraded to the FB SE. Now i'm lucky if i get 3 days of battery life which is annoying as i find it constantly dying on me which I never had an issue with the old one.

Also experiencing issues with the bluetooth as sometimes my phone cant seem to find it and constantly searching for it despite the bluetooth showing turned on the bracelet. I have updated both app and fb but these issues still seem to occur.

Might have to get it replaced at the Nike store as the battery life is really bad

 

[mdavenport]

My FB SE lasts about 1.5 days before being flat. I use it for sessions and press the button a fair amount for time etc as its new to me.

Has anyone tried turning the Bluetooth off on the SE FB to see if this increases the life. You can turn it on again when u want it to sync

Also sleep tracking is rubbish.

 

[mercury66]

Mine is also running out of battery after 2 days. I'll try turning off the BT and see what happens.