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Nintendo Bringing Mario and Other Games to Smartphones and Tablets
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Their previous handheld was the best selling, ever. Their current one is following its predecessors trend. Pokemon OR/AS were the fastest selling handheld games ever. They're leading the handheld market.
They have the highest ratings of any single developer on Metacritic, and created more 90%+ rated games in this generation of home consoles. Last generation they were tied for the highest rated game (Mario Galaxy to GTA4). Not leaders?
The Wii U isn't as popular as the Wii, that's the only thing they've lost in those last few years. In the past 6 months they've entered the toy model market which made them $1billion in its first month, they're expanding too.
(Edit: I was curious how behind the Wii U is to the Xbox One and PS4. Surprised it's not that far behind the Xbox)
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Really don't see this as being much myself. If I want to play good games, for the most part, a dedicated handheld with 'real' button always is better.
Of course, some games work great on a touch screen, but that is just it, 'some games'. Most don't do so well without buttons. JMHO
Of course, some games work great on a touch screen, but that is just it, 'some games'. Most don't do so well without buttons. JMHO
Here is an idea...
Well, probably a no brainer and someone has probably mentioned it but Nintendo has the ability to piggy back off of tons of hardware already in place. Just like a jail broken iPhone has Springboard (which btw, you can play ALTTP as a Rom and it works ok) Nintendo should make their own Seperate store titled, well, Nintendo Titles of iOS. I don't know. If Apple was smart, they would be trying to buy the **** out of Nintendo. I'm sure Nintendo wouldn't sell but they should at least try to strike up a deal that could be beneficial to both companies. I feel like it's hard to strike a bad deal with Apple, a company with the largest market share in the world (I think it's still there). Anyway, what do you all think? Btw, I am brand new to this forum, and really, forums in general for that matter so bare with me if my forum etiquette offends some at first. Just get over it and give some positive constructive criticism and it will be gravy here on out...you.ll just need some biscuits to soak up all that gravy. Lol. Ok **** self. Peace! And let me know what you think could be done with iOS/Nintendo/Android. Or maybe Nintendo should make the GIANT leap and make a RDY FOR THIS????? ......A NINTENDO PHONE!!!! Ooooooo. Ahhhhh
Well, probably a no brainer and someone has probably mentioned it but Nintendo has the ability to piggy back off of tons of hardware already in place. Just like a jail broken iPhone has Springboard (which btw, you can play ALTTP as a Rom and it works ok) Nintendo should make their own Seperate store titled, well, Nintendo Titles of iOS. I don't know. If Apple was smart, they would be trying to buy the **** out of Nintendo. I'm sure Nintendo wouldn't sell but they should at least try to strike up a deal that could be beneficial to both companies. I feel like it's hard to strike a bad deal with Apple, a company with the largest market share in the world (I think it's still there). Anyway, what do you all think? Btw, I am brand new to this forum, and really, forums in general for that matter so bare with me if my forum etiquette offends some at first. Just get over it and give some positive constructive criticism and it will be gravy here on out...you.ll just need some biscuits to soak up all that gravy. Lol. Ok **** self. Peace! And let me know what you think could be done with iOS/Nintendo/Android. Or maybe Nintendo should make the GIANT leap and make a RDY FOR THIS????? ......A NINTENDO PHONE!!!! Ooooooo. Ahhhhh
Iwata: "However, if you report that we will release Mario on smart devices, it would be a completely misleading statement. It is our intention to release some application on smart devices this year that is capable of attracting consumer attention and communicating the value of our entertainment offerings, so I would encourage you to see how our approach yields results."
And handhelds, where they're doing their best, is where people are suggesting they abandon to make mobile games.
Which is really silly isn't it?
I for one, don't think Nintendo should follow down Sega's footsteps. What folks fail to see is Nintendo basically makes it's hardware around a game design concept. This worked for them with the Wii/3DS, making MS and Sony try to follow in their footsteps (only to have MS go all in then back down with the Kinect and the XB1).
Or you could get the Wii U now since it will be cheaper than buying two consoles.
Wii is around $200 on Amazon. The Wii U bundle is around $300 on Amazon.
Yeah lets get the Wii for $200, then later get the Wii U for another $200.
$400 > $300.
Include Android and iOS in graph (games installed, say Angry Birds, not the hardware).
Of course you'll get more there, they are two separate markets. Nintendo caters to the full quality games market; dedicated hardware, full price games.
When you factor in per unit profit, releasing a successful game on handheld is better than a successful mobile game.
Why should it be different?
Apparently Sony and now Nintendo think there is no difference.
I feel bad for you if you buy old consoles on Amazon lol. You can get it refurbished on GameStop for like $80....
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The Wii U was released a full year before the Xbox One or PS4 lol. You're trying to compare those sales and call them not far behind?
Nintendo is too stupid to realize that releasing their classics on iOS and Andriod would be a gateway to tens of millions of potential new customers of their hardware where the newer, more hardcore games reside. Say they release a new Zelda on Wii U (I know I was laughing when I typed it, since that's not happening on this console generation) and a few weeks prior to that, they release A link to the Past on iOS and Andriod, they have enormous popularity and a ridiculous number of potential new customers.
And recently the Wii U has been outselling the Xbox One.
And last generation the Xbox 360 had more than a years headstart on the PS3, but people say they weren't far behind too.
I didn't know it was that close to be honest, I knew the Wii U was last (at least in most markets) but I thought it would be a lot further behind.
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You mean this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(2015_video_game)
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Sony are pulling out of it. They've just announced the end of their Playstation Mobile service.
So whats the plan?
So now we have to look at Nintendo's options.
Will they start pumping out Candy Crush/Temple Run/Angry Birds clones with Nintendo IP?
Or some cool, well developed, novel little Nintendo-ish games that wet your appetite for their Console/Handheld software?
I'm hoping for the later, the former would be very depressing. Nintendo is known for innovation and creating new ways to play, not chasing the competition.
So now we have to look at Nintendo's options.
Will they start pumping out Candy Crush/Temple Run/Angry Birds clones with Nintendo IP?
Or some cool, well developed, novel little Nintendo-ish games that wet your appetite for their Console/Handheld software?
I'm hoping for the later, the former would be very depressing. Nintendo is known for innovation and creating new ways to play, not chasing the competition.
First of all, Nintendo still makes some of the best games in the industry today. Go ahead and read about everything that everybody bitches about with modern gaming. You get unfinished, buggy games, on disc DLC, overpriced DLC, games with very little content unless you buy the DLC, overhyped games, games that don't look nearly as good as the fake gameplay footage from the previous E3. You never hear about any of this from Nintendo's games. Truthfully, if you can't find a good number of exclusive games between the Wii U and 3DS, you probably don't like video games very much in general
Secondly, Nintendo may not have the best hardware but 8th gen consoles in general are crap. They all have slow download speeds. They all have terrible user interfaces and online shops. They all present some of the very worst aspects of PC gaming.
Also, consoles that don't come with controllers? When I bought a Wii U, I got a controller. I don't know what you're talking about.
20+ games you say? I would like you to name at least 10 exclusive PS4 games that you can get right now. I have 18 games for the Wii U. 12 of them are exclusive and out of the 12, at least 9 or 10 of them could easily score an average of 90 or above. Do you know what I'm currently hearing from my friends who have either an Xbox One or PS4? They're either playing thee games that you can buy on multiple systems, the one exclusive game that comes out once in a full moon, or they're wondering why the hell they bought those systems to begin with. Compared to older systems like the PS2 that got five years worth of exclusive games in under two years, the PS4 is utter **** by comparison. I have yet to upgrade from the PS3 and Xbox 360 because I feel I have very little reason to do so at this time, especially when the majority of the Xbox One and PS4 games are still coming out for those systems!
Is the N64 really the best Nintendo system to like them to their glory days? You couldn't choose the NES or SNES? First of all, the N64 stuck with cartridges which alienated third parties and allowed Sony to gain the greater marketshare. Second, the N64 was a difficult machine to program for, which caused another headache for third parities. Thirdly, they still had major influence back then but they were by no means the undisputed industry leader. Sony was. Despite marketshare and sales, the quality of Nintendo's games still remained the same years later.
While the mobile market is large, that doesn't necessarily mean more sales. How many mobile owners are serious about gaming? Also, you talk about the Xbox and PS4 marketshare like it's a large marketshare. It's really not, especially when compared to the mobile market.
One thing that makes Nintendo Nintendo is they design their hardware based on the type of games they want to make. The Nintendo 64 controller for example was MADE for Super Mario 64. With their new mobile initiative, they're making the choice of making games specifically for the mobile platform. In other words, they're treating the mobile platform as another dedicated device. However, if they were drop hardware and make all of their games on mobile devices, then they will lose their identity. While Nintendo can make games for mobile devices, a lot of what they make wouldn't be very good for mobile devices. They could also make games on PS4 and Xbox One, but again, it's not their controller, not their design. The integration of hardware and software is at the core of what makes Nintendo who they are. To see what would happen to Nintendo if they were to give that up, look no further than Sega.
Finally, Nintendo is the last console maker I would want to see leave the market. Nintendo for better or for worse is the company that keeps consoles interesting. When they have a hit like the SNES or the Wii, the market reacts and competitors change their attitudes to become more competitive. When Nintendo has a failure like the Wii U, they still support it with a lot of high quality games. By comparison, Microsoft tried to give us the consoles with everything that nobody wanted with the Xbox One and Sony gave us the console that played it safe to a disturbing degree with the PS4. If Nintendo were taken out of the equation, the state of console gaming would look more grim and depressing than it does now. If their handhelds were take out of the equation.....then there wouldn't be a dedicated handheld market at all. Because even though the PS Vita is a wonderful piece of hardware, Sony couldn't properly market and sell a dedicated handheld system if their lives depended on it. So gaming consoles are better because Nintendo has stuck around.
It's sad that you're saying that considering that the Wii U has better games than the PS4 and Xbox One.
If they release one decent game it could kill there new console dead as one good even reasonable iOs game has the potential to make millions a day.
For example if they do it right and make something like DeNa made final fantasy record keeper, a game which complements there existing ip and is creates a load of nostalgia they would be on a gold mine. Nintendo themselves have already made a game which I think which would be perfect on iOs and that is Nes Remix. Yes I know they are not porting games but that sort of concept would be perfect. Small bite sized chunks of games which complements rather diminishes there ip.
Heres the caveat one maybe two hits, which Nintendo is more than capable of doing, could overtake there whole WiiU games sales. Mobile production is lower cost and potentially higher reward. It also is higher risk but Nintendo has the brand name which eliminates some of the risk.
So if they generate a hit or two shareholders will then question why they should continue to build a console when they could make more money on mobile rather than developing a console. That is even before the talk of ports which would generate god knows how much! A lot of people are also forgetting the R&D which is involved in consoles and maintaining them.
This is a very high risk stragety for Nintendo. They turn up a half baked idea on iOs it will damage the brand. They make it too good they could kill there new console. With Nintendo I dont think there will be any half measures it will be either a killer game or an absolute half baked idea which was doomed from the start.
For example if they do it right and make something like DeNa made final fantasy record keeper, a game which complements there existing ip and is creates a load of nostalgia they would be on a gold mine. Nintendo themselves have already made a game which I think which would be perfect on iOs and that is Nes Remix. Yes I know they are not porting games but that sort of concept would be perfect. Small bite sized chunks of games which complements rather diminishes there ip.
Heres the caveat one maybe two hits, which Nintendo is more than capable of doing, could overtake there whole WiiU games sales. Mobile production is lower cost and potentially higher reward. It also is higher risk but Nintendo has the brand name which eliminates some of the risk.
So if they generate a hit or two shareholders will then question why they should continue to build a console when they could make more money on mobile rather than developing a console. That is even before the talk of ports which would generate god knows how much! A lot of people are also forgetting the R&D which is involved in consoles and maintaining them.
This is a very high risk stragety for Nintendo. They turn up a half baked idea on iOs it will damage the brand. They make it too good they could kill there new console. With Nintendo I dont think there will be any half measures it will be either a killer game or an absolute half baked idea which was doomed from the start.
If there is one gaming company that could be perfect at making mobile games, it is Nintendo. From their years of success with Game & Watch, Game Boy, and DS/3DS, they know how to make handhelds with simple & fun games to go with it. Quick play for short burst. Nintendo should have done this years ago. But they have enough expertise and franchises to still dominate... Of course, price could be an issue as GameLoft, Rovio, and others know better not to overprice them.