Nintendo Share Prices Decline in Reaction to 'Super Mario Run' Pricing and Internet Connection Criticisms

[jrswizzle]

I wish it was $9.99 UP-FRONT.

1) It would get rid of the 1-star reviews from people just upset about the "pay wall" (and not about the game)

2) It would actually let me share the purchase with my family. I don't want to spend another $30 on the game so I can share it.

3) This one is minor - but it would make sure the game is playable in the future, when there isn't an App Store to connect to to "restore purchases".


Online only? Lots of games are online only.
$10 for a Nintendo game? From the company that keeps first-party titles priced at $39.99 for half a decade and has terrible eShop sales?

So here's the thing about all this.....

1) They announced it the cost well before the game was available to download.

2) You can "share" the purchase of other Nintendo games like say Pokemon Sun. You'd have to have multiple copies if you wanted to play together.

3) No game lasts forever. Using DS games again as a comparison that $40 cartridge is likely to go obsolete before Super Mario Run. At least SMR can be updated with new content.

As far a mobile games go, $10 is a steal for me. I've poured more time into SMR than most other games I have on my phone - some of which cost more. Personally though I'm a stickler for high scores and am extremely competitive so replaying levels to get all the special coins and going back to beat my buddy who one-upped my high score is what keeps me playing. It's also simple to play but difficult to master which is exactly how a mobile game should be.

Chalk up the SMR hate to folks complaining for the sake of complaining.

 

[notabadname]

Always connected? No thank you. It's OK with a game like Clash of Clans, since all gameplay is versus other players. But a single-player game should not require me to be connected at all. I want to play while on a plane, etc. I don't want to be connected to play a side-scroller game. But complaining about $10 for a game that gives you hours of play is stupid to me. We go to movies for $12 for a 90 minute flick. The cost per hour of entertainment is totally fair to me. The micro-transaction game is the worst thing to happen to gaming IMO. Paying for new content, Maps, etc is fine, like on a PS4 or XBox game like Destiny or Halo, etc. But paying continually for Gems/ etc to level up in a game is a nuisance - I'ld rather pay $10-20 for a great, fully unlocked game (that I can play without an internet connection).

 

[gobenji]

I was happy to pay the UK price of £7.99 to unlock the whole game but the always-on internet thing is driving me crackers. Constantly cutting out inbetween games on the commute is really putting me off. I just don't understand why, if they feel the need to perform such a check, it can't be done once a day, even once an hour, and that it would be an easy fix... But after every single game is surely overkill.

Oh... one caveat for the price... I do expect a healthy and continued timetable for new levels being added. I get the feeling I may be disappointed with that one though!

 

[levitynyc]

I was happy to pay the UK price of £7.99 to unlock the whole game but the always-on internet thing is driving me crackers. Constantly cutting out inbetween games on the commute is really putting me off. I just don't understand why, if they feel the need to perform such a check, it can't be done once a day, even once an hour, and that it would be an easy fix... But after every single game is surely overkill.

Oh... one caveat for the price... I do expect a healthy and continued timetable for new levels being added. I get the feeling I may be disappointed with that one though!

They've already announced that they won't be adding more content.

 

[lysingur]

The way the game works it's difficult not to have a constant internet connection. There are other games that work the same way, i.e. Asphalt 8. Any achievement the player gets in game mode affects Toady Rally mode, e.g. toad vouchers, and vice versa. Collecting enough Toads of different colours allow you to unlock new characters in Mushroom Kingdom mode, e.g. Yoshi, which is playable in game mode.

The price is reasonable considering there are three modes in the game, six levels in the game mode and six characters, five of which are unlockable plus Mario. So the replayability is up there.

The shortcomings of SMR are rather lack of originality and real-time multiplayer, the latter of which I imagine Nintendo can improve on, but then it'll definitely need a good Wifi or 4G connection. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Romy90210]

Super Mario run is not a bad game! But its not a good game either. Would I buy it if I had young kids? Yes. Would I buy it for teens or even myself? No.
In my Eyes this game is aimed at even younger children than those who where meant to play Pokemon more than a decade ago.
10$ is a lot for a single player game where you have to buy several licenses to please each of your kids.

or just used the same icloud for your kids itunes.. it will only required your p

They should have split the worlds into smaller transactions. $13 is tough just based on the price of other games on the app store. The quality is quite good, don't get me wrong but $13 over free+ads is hard to swallow.


As for Mario Run reviews being the reason for the stock decline - ha. Everyone knows buy on hype, sell on release. Just watch Apple stock.
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I'm curious where you can get Mario Maker for $10, used. EBgames.ca lists "Recycled" Mario Maker for Wii U for $65.

Gamestop... got a copy last week for $10. used of course..

 

[OutSpoken]

Seems a bit unfair to me. All of this was public beforehand. So rate the game knowing the rules.

I guess for some the pricing model wasn't made clear. Granted they said it would be a one time purchase but they failed to say it would be done via IAP. And when you see that its listed as a 'family sharing' app only to find out it's not, you'd be rightly pissed.

Also the continuous connection to internet was only made public a couple of weeks ago, unless you keep your eyes glued to gaming/tech blogs I imagine it was probably a big shock and downer for many customers.

My children have iPods, when out of the house, they are not guaranteed to get free reliable wifi everywhere.

To me those two point are very important.


My only complaint for the game is that Nintendo could've made the multiplayer element more enjoyable, a proper online multiplayer (think side scrolling runner Ninjump) when you race and battle against other components in real time - not asynchronous, especially knowing that the game requires constant internet anyway!

 

[fatalogic]

I don't think the $10 would be a problem if it was worth $10. There are a lot of premium pc/console ports on the store that cost $5- $10 and they feel worth it because you're getting full experiences. This game is only worth $5 for me.

 

[bmot]

I hope Nintendo gets it.
Ten dollar/euro for a good mobile game is fine by me, but requiring the payment via in app purchase to avoid apples family sharing system is a greedy decision that will throw many people off. I like to purchase apps knowing they might be also of use for my family. But this way Nintendo will loose a lot of otherwise pay willingly customers.

 

[smacrumon]

People aren't going to spend any money on software when there's 10 similar competing games for free.

Also, you don't need to use a ridiculously large font size. It looks obnoxious and seems to me like you're seeking attention.

I type large because I can read it better on screen, the default is too small, and because I wanted an answer to my question on page ...

 

[mlovergaard]

For me the biggest problem is the fact that it requires an internet connection. I play most of my games on the subway and in NYC there is no connection in the tunnels.

 

[SuperKerem]

I type large because I can read it better on screen, the default is too small, and because I wanted an answer to my question on page ...

Unfortunately, just because you require a ridiculous font size in order to read your (rather unimportant and redundant) comment doesn't justify it taking up 90% of everyone else's display. The default formatting is perfect for everybody else, so if you have any complaints please take it up with the mods.

Everybody wants an answer to their questions, and the fact that you feel that yours is more important than everybody else's is rather worrying. That is quite literally the definition of attention-seeking.

 

[smacrumon]

Unfortunately, just because you require a ridiculous font size in order to read your (rather unimportant and redundant) comment doesn't justify it taking up 90% of everyone else's display. The default formatting is perfect for everybody else, so if you have any complaints please take it up with the mods.

Everybody wants an answer to their questions, and the fact that you feel that yours is more important than everybody else's is rather worrying. That is quite literally the definition of attention-seeking.

I don't think you can really speak on behalf of all members here with you broad comment "The default formatting is perfect for everybody else". I find the default size too small. There's an option to change the size, so that's what I did. No attention seeking here, but comments that feature on later pages do get less of a look in and I was after an answer. It's okay to change the font, font size and color, add an emoji etc. Maybe be more concerned with the way which you approach other members here, your past two comments have been rather hostile. I was after an answer to my question, I wasn't inviting a critique.

 

[gobenji]

They've already announced that they won't be adding more content.

Really? They really do seem to be going out of their way to put people off buying this thing!! I don't know why they don't just make life easy for themselves and release each of the original NES and SNES Super Mario Bros games with a decent control system for £2.99 each and sit back and watch the cash roll in.

 

[SuperKerem]

I don't think you can really speak on behalf of all members here with you broad comment "The default formatting is perfect for everybody else". I find the default size too small. There's an option to change the size, so that's what I did. No attention seeking here, but comments that feature on later pages do get less of a look in and I was after an answer. It's okay to change the font, font size and color, add an emoji etc. Maybe be more concerned with the way which you approach other members here, your past two comments have been rather hostile. I was after an answer to my question, I wasn't inviting a critique.

The default formatting is chosen for a reason. When the forum admins allow text formatting, they trust that you will not abuse it by making your response 5 times bigger than necessary. Do you know what the definition of attention seeking is? Why do you think your response is more important than all the other comments?

Unfortunately, this is a forum and not a Q&A session. I answered your pointless question and pointed out your obnoxious formatting. I also reported your post for abusing the formatting options by taking up nearly all of my phone's display, and shortly after, your formatting was reset - so I think the mods are with me on this one.

 

[smacrumon]

The default formatting is chosen for a reason. When the forum admins allow text formatting, they trust that you will not abuse it by making your response 5 times bigger than necessary. Do you know what the definition of attention seeking is? Why do you think your response is more important than all the other comments?

Unfortunately, this is a forum and not a Q&A session. I answered your pointless question and pointed out your obnoxious formatting. I also reported your post for abusing the formatting options by taking up nearly all of my phone's display, and shortly after, your formatting was reset - so I think the mods are with me on this one.

This is a forum, users can converse, make comments, ask questions. You don't set the agenda on what people can or can not type. My question was benign and friendly. Don't respond if it was painful to read or comprehend. You've taken issue of the font size to extremes. It's interesting, on my device the formatting did not take up the whole display. Ever consider your experience isn't that of others? You might also consider a more respectful approach here as well. Your aggression and accompanying language is unnecessary.

 

[Urban Joe]

You can't win with freeloaders.
I'm glad Nintendo went with a single price after trial - and not IAPs.

I think it has more to do with the features such as constant internet connection that's turning people off. It's too irritating and complicated with all the DRM. I'm boycotting it for these reasons. Would gladly pay top dollar if the value we're there (including convenience of ownership/use). A few IAP's such as reverse control would have made Nintendo beaucoup money. The management is incompetent.

 

[zohaali146]

Many people are complaining about its requirement of internet connection but i find it lame because nowadays most good games require a internet connection. The price is definitely high though. But i haven't tried the game yet, so i cannot comment if it is worth the price or not.