Nissan 350z

[xUKHCx]

Also, what happens with a bigger engine? Sorry, I like to know stuff.

You are more likely to put your right foot down which lends itself to a whole world of trouble.

Only after 5 years of driving I would say that you are a good enough driver to own a high power car.

unlike the uk, we require somewat of a large engine. you cant even find a car with a 1.3L engine. usually they go around 1.5 to 2.0 for a 4 cyl. and unless your car can accelerate 0 to 60 in about 10 seconds... its tough to get on the highway

What, our speed limit is higher than yours with narrower lanes so in theory we need bigger engines than you. You don't need a big engine to go 55mph or if you are pushing the limits 90.

Point of reference my car does 0-60 in about 14 seconds and can get up to 100mph.

 

[faintember]

I'm sorry, any amount of empathy, sympathy, "respect" whatever positive or neutral feelings I may have felt towards this thread... has gone down the drain with that post.

That line of thought shows to me, that you're not ready for this car.

I totally agree with devilot here. The lack of knowledge of insurance, especially in regards to a 30k car, is pretty shocking.

Insurance aside, a 350z is a fairly serious car, and in your very, very limited experience as a driver combined with a powerful car like the 350z could be a bad combination. If I were in your parent's shoes the only way I would consider letting you drive such a car is if you were to take a set number of driving courses that you pay for. No, these don't have to be your boring drivers ed. classes, but rather should be something along the lines that teach you about advanced driving techniques and teach you about your car at the same time. There used to be a few classes akin to my description that were linked to Road Atlanta. The point of the classes would be for you to learn about yourself as a driver, learn about your car, learn how to actually handle your car in a controlled environment and learn respect for what a 350z really can do.

 

[Krafty]

You are more likely to put your right foot down which lends itself to a whole world of trouble.

Only after 5 years of driving I would say that you are a good enough driver to own a high power car.

I don't mean to sound dumb, but hitting midterms my brain is being fried.

So is it something with the accel? Im not getting the pun here...

So your saying maybe I should wait? Some people dont call the 350z a high power cause of the 280HP (I think) under its stock hood.

 

[mfacey]

Depending on where you live, it can be as much as your car payment per month.

It still boggles my mind that so many people finance their cars over in the States. No wonder everybody is in deep financial s***. Why not just drive something you can afford and then once you've made a decent amount of money get something more expensive. That's how the rest of the world does it.

...Sorry, off topic!


350Z is an awesome car btw. Expect updates soon though. Its been on the market for a LONG time already and is in dire need of a serious refresh.

 

[Krafty]

I totally agree with devilot here. The lack of knowledge of insurance, especially in regards to a 30k car, is pretty shocking.

First, the 2007 is only 27k. And I'm going to an older used model, so I dont know where your getting 30k from. Thats my dads avalon if anything relative to this post.

Sorry I dont drop all my work and research insurance, thats why I was going to talk to my dad about it.

Insurance aside, a 350z is a fairly serious car, and in your very, very limited experience as a driver combined with a powerful car like the 350z could be a bad combination.

I've driven a NISMO manual and auto a lot of times, I'd say I know how to drive a 350z down the road at least.

The point of the classes would be for you to learn about yourself as a driver, learn about your car, learn how to actually handle your car in a controlled environment and learn respect for what a 350z really can do.

Once again, I know how to drive it, Im not THAT stupid.

 

[xUKHCx]

I don't mean to sound dumb, but hitting midterms my brain is being fried.

So is it something with the accel? Im not getting the pun here...

So your saying maybe I should wait? Some people dont call the 350z a high power cause of the 280HP (I think) under its stock hood.

Basically what I am saying is you are more likely to drive fast and as a new driver this is the road to disaster.

Take it from me 280HP for a beginner is a high power car. In general 280HP is a high power car, although it you compare it to koenigsegg then it is obviously not. My car has about 80HP.

 

[iBlue]

No parent that would buy their kid a car would let them go without insurance, I'm guessing. They don't want to lose their asses in a lawsuit.

 

[Krafty]

Basically what I am saying is you are more likely to drive fast and as a new driver this is the road to disaster.

Take it from me 280HP for a beginner is a high power car. In general 280HP is a high power car, although it you compare it to koenigsegg then it is obviously not. My car has about 80HP.

Yeah, honestly even listening to "Lamb Of God" (dont care if you judge me based on my choice of music), I really really REALLY get the urge to gas it. They're doing mass construction on the roads around here, so there are these thick, solid, plates on the road, so driving fast could result in tearing your entire bottom car and/or bumper up.

No parent that would buy their kid a car would let them go without insurance, I'm guessing. They don't want to lose their asses in a lawsuit.

Thats what I mentioned earlier, and after asking the "What If..." everyone took it seriously.

 

[CanadaRAM]

IMO an expensive sporty car, with top-of the rack insurance costs, poor gas mileage, and high police visibility is one of the all time dumbest places to put a substantial amount of money. Autos are a depreciating investment.

Go for a solid boring used car like a used Accord or Camry or Corolla, and put the $15,000+ you save into investments for the future -- maybe this turns into the downpayment on your own house or condo when you graduate.

Use the $100 a month or so you will save on insurance and gas and repairs into something useful, like healthy food at college rather than Mac'n'cheese.

Use the money you save on speeding tickets on Apple gear

Wait on the flashy expensive "keep up with the buddies and their Audi's and Beemers" car until you have a good job.

Consider also what the effect of your dad's opinion of you will be if you go to him with a well thought out deal like - "get me a $7000 car and then help me decide where to invest the other $20000 for my future". As opposed to - "get me the highest powered car I can get for $27000 so I can go faster than my buddies. Coz you know I gotta have a fast car just like them" Which approach sounds the most mature and responsible?

 

[Krafty]

Go for a solid boring used car like a used Accord or Camry or Corolla, and put the $15,000 you save into investments for the future -- maybe this turns into the downpayment on your own house or condo when you graduate.

I think the Corolla is what my dad was aiming for since he mentioned it last year. Aside all these posts saying I'm illiterate for not knowing anything about insurance, I'd say it was worth making this topic to get an idea on what I would be puttig myself up against.

 

[ccwilli3]

The sense of entitlement in this thread is amazing. Who cares if it costs less than your dad's car!? He has a job and most likely worked really hard to get where he is, he deserves a nice car if that is what he wants. He should buy you a $2700 car and let you take care of that for a couple of years, THEN maybe if he had the means and the will, buy you a nicer vehicle. you'd do very well to get a corolla, take it and run while you can.

 

[Krafty]

The sense of entitlement in this thread is amazing. Who cares if it costs less than your dad's car!? He has a job and most likely worked really hard to get where he is, he deserves a nice car if that is what he wants. He should buy you a $2700 car and let you take care of that for a couple of years, THEN maybe if he had the means and the will, buy you a nicer vehicle. you'd do very well to get a corolla, take it and run while you can.

Yeah, thats why I also mentioned earlier that if he rejected the idea then theres nothing more to do but accept what he gives and move on. Cars a car that gets you from point A to B.

But honestly, he does work hard. I think thats why he worked overtime and did extra Afterschool hours at his job. (He also frames).

I really want a job, but he said not while I'm in college.

 

[xUKHCx]

Yeah, honestly even listening to "Lamb Of God" (dont care if you judge me based on my choice of music), I really really REALLY get the urge to gas it. They're doing mass construction on the roads around here, so there are these thick, solid, plates on the road, so driving fast could result in tearing your entire bottom car and/or bumper up.

Definitely not ready for a fast car, especially if your friends have fast cars there will be lots of urges to drive too fast.

IMO an expensive sporty car, with top-of the rack insurance costs, poor gas mileage, and high police visibility is one of the all time dumbest places to put a substantial amount of money. Autos are a depreciating investment.

Consider also what the effect of your dad's opinion of you will be if you go to him with a well thought out deal like - "get me a $7000 car and then help me decide where to invest the other $20000 for my future".

I think this is the truth. After all what is more important an education that lasts for ever or a fast car that lasts for 5-10 years.

 

[faintember]

First, the 2007 is only 27k. And I'm going to an older used model, so I dont know where your getting 30k from. Thats my dads avalon if anything relative to this post.
Sorry I dont drop all my work and research insurance, thats why I was going to talk to my dad about it.

Regardless, it is a very expensive car for a young driver to have. Please stop splitting hairs and disregarding the advice we are giving you. If you can't be assed to do your research about the car/insurance then don't complain when I don't go back over three pages of replies to find an exact number.

I've driven a NISMO manual and auto a lot of times, I'd say I know how to drive a 350z down the road at least. Once again, I know how to drive it, Im not THAT stupid.

No, you "know" how to drive it, however knowing "how to drive a 350z down the road" is significantly different than really knowing how to drive a sports car. In fact, this quote of yours totally solidifies my opinion that you, in no way, shape or form need or deserve a car like a 350z at this point in your life.

 

[Krafty]

Definitely not ready for a fast car, especially if your friends have fast cars there will be lots of urges to drive too fast.

In HS, we had 2 kids who skipped school die due to the idea of flooring it on a public road. I can hold myself back, but I still get that "Man, this music...the roads are empty...its 2AM, I could just..."

I'm pretty sure you guys know what your talking about (thus why i asked), I can see why my mom was steering me away from asking my dad.

Regardless, it is a very expensive car for a young driver to have. Please stop splitting hairs and disregarding the advice we are giving you. If you can't be assed to do your research about the car/insurance then don't complain when I don't go back over three pages of replies to find an exact number.

Did you not read the last 5 posts?

No, you "know" how to drive it, however knowing "how to drive a 350z down the road" is significantly different than really knowing how to drive a sports car. In fact, this quote of yours totally solidifies my opinion that you, in no way, shape or form need or deserve a car like a 350z at this point in your life.

I've driven a few sports cars, so I can say Yeah, I know how to at least drive them normally. Maybe not to the point of a street racer, but enough to cope with it.

 

[jaydub]

I'm sorry, any amount of empathy, sympathy, "respect" whatever positive or neutral feelings I may have felt towards this thread... has gone down the drain with that post.

That line of thought shows to me, that you're not ready for this car.

Precisely. I am appalled.

 

[devilot]

The reason for my previous post is this-- there is more to owning and driving a car than it's price and its specs.

Driving is a privilege. And with privilege, comes responsibility. A car is probably one of the most common tools used to murder and maim-- and all without most of us giving it a second thought. Car accidents can and all too often are lethal. It's more than just having fun.

In most states (if not all) in the US, cars require registration, drivers require insurance. A car's policy will indicate which drivers use that vehicle; whether as the primary driver or an additional driver. But you must be insured to drive a given vehicle.

Also, with a very basic understanding of insurance, it's simple to realize that any insurance company worth taking a policy out with, will require full coverage on a brand new vehicle. The reasoning is very logical. Say any brand new car gets into an accident-- it'll be that much more costly to fix. Period. So they've got to cover their butts in addition to yours.

Now, factor in the demographics that more young males than females (and really more males than females, period) get into accidents-- insurance inevitably costs more for males.

Factor in the type of car-- statistically, more accidents seem to occur with higher powered or more "frivolous" cars such as two-seaters, roadsters, sports cars-- than your average sedan. So that also means higher insurance premiums.


These aren't new ideas or concepts. They're not complicated or far-fetched. And the fact that you didn't seem to grasp the concept of requiring insurance made me seriously doubt your seriousness in wanting this car and all that it entails.


Sigh and again, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but this post (that was posted while I was patiently writing all of the above; makes me want to rescind my patient writing:

I've driven a few sports cars, so I can say Yeah, I know how to at least drive them normally. Maybe not to the point of a street racer, but enough to cope with it.

No. There is so much more to driving even a simple sedan on the road, much less a car considered a sports car. FW/ RW drive cars? Bad road conditions? Maintaining proper tires?

These are just basic safety elements. They don't even include maintenance of the car for its benefit.

Again. There is so much more to owning and driving ANY vehicle, than it's initial upfront price and its specs.

 

[Krafty]

These aren't new ideas or concepts. They're not complicated or far-fetched. And the fact that you didn't seem to grasp the concept of requiring insurance made me seriously doubt your seriousness in wanting this car and all that it entails.

Once again, I was just wondering. Seriously wish people would shout "Your stupid cause you dont know **** about cars" from asking a simple question.

Thats why I asked, so I can know what it was all about, but sorry I wont do it again.

 

[heehee]

Please dont be like this kid.

I know that's a 500hp car, but a 350z will get us in as much trouble as that car, even a 100 hp car can get you in trouble. Please drive safe no matter what car your parents buy you.

 

[faintember]

I've driven a few sports cars, so I can say Yeah, I know how to at least drive them normally. Maybe not to the point of a street racer, but enough to cope with it.

This is not about street racing, this is about knowing how to handle, control and respect a high horsepower car. The tolerances for mistakes in a car such as a 350z can be much more slim than in a car that has a more conservative horsepower rating (120hp-180hp).

 

[Krafty]

Please dont be like this kid.

I know that's a 500hp car, but a 350z will get us in as much trouble as that car, even a 100 hp car can get you in trouble. Please drive safe no matter what car your parents buy you.

Thats fine, I get it now. But I could have dealt with people saying I cant do anything or deserve anything cause I wanted to know a little more about insurance.

Like I said, sorry, anything else I'll just ask somewhere else since im not bright enough to understand.

 

[devilot]

Like I said, sorry, anything else I'll just ask somewhere else since im not bright enough to understand.

Please take a deep breath, then come back slowly to read this thread.

I think for the most part, people did not call you dumb.

Just that there are basics that you didn't realize.

That last post of mine took me quite awhile to compose and I really don't think I called you dumb or unintelligent-- just unaware of what all this encompasses.

Many of us learned about this in one way or another. Some adults still don't have a freaking clue. Hell, there's a ton I still don't know.

But there is a ton of info out there. You can contact your current insurance provider, ask for links with generalized info. Look at the DMV for your state. It will, FOR SURE, have a ton of the basics that we've gone over in this thread; plus more that will more directly correlate to the two states you'd be straddling, right?

Glean information. Let it sink in. Go out and get even more information. Be informed. Then be smarter about all of this, don't compare yourself to peers who have messed up-- compare yourself to peers who have done well, and work towards being just as if not better about all of this than they. G'luck.

 

[MacSamurai]

Glean information. Let it sink in. Go out and get even more information. Be informed. Then be smarter about all of this, don't compare yourself to peers who have messed up-- compare yourself to peers who have done well, and work towards being just as if not better about all of this than they. G'luck.

You're awesome

 

[Krafty]

Its because despite what people think i AM reading and i AM taking in the responses and advice people are getting cause I just admitted, Yeah, I dont think im ready. But its not that I dont deserve it, I can drive it. I've driven one for hours multiple times, so I'm not that stupid. No, I dont know everything about it, but I definitely do not think its to the point where I dont know anything about it. Me and my dad dont talk much, being the distance and his work hours. My mom works in the morning and sleeps in the evening, so I just wanted to hear from people older with more sense their input on my situation, but not "No. You cant do it." I'm tired of people saying I can't do stuff, thats why I'm trying to learn now. Maybe I'm late, at least I'm not sitting back and putting it off even more.

 

[devilot]

Closed per OP's request.