iPad No 2GB of RAM for iPad Air 2?

[2IS]

There's zero evidence to suggest that it has 1GB; on the contrary the leaked motherboard seems to show it has 2GB, provided that Elpida hasn't altered their numbering scheme.

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Well, then you're just a sad fool who has nothing better to do than troll. I know most people here lack advanced degrees in the subject, but at least have the common sense to have a clue of what you're talking about before making stupid statements about the specifications of modern technology. It's irresponsible; someone who doesn't know any better might not catch your BS.

You're mad... Sounds like your ego has been hurt. Is it because we both know you're only pretending to know what you're talking about or is it because your beloved company is releasing outdated products? My guess is both. But go ahead and keep believing the only specs that matter are the ones that Apple tells you about. Is it true what they say? Is ignorance really bliss? I figure you're as good a source as any for that information.

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They made their case. Successfully.

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And is it? About the experience I mean. Or is it about some number on a spec sheet?

No doubt they're successful. No doubt many people are idiots too. Just look at how many people think the only thing that matters is what Apple tells them matters. I've given you two examples in this post alone. Lets take you for example. Plenty of people have posted examples of their experience being negatively affected by features and specs the iPad lacks. Here you are ignoring them and pretending they don't exist. Why? Because Apple doesn't mention it.

Let me guess, you probably think McDonalds is healthy because they don't tell you it isn't and they sell more burgers than anyone else. Sounds silly doesn't it? Not any sillier than your unwavering allegiance for Apple.

 

[MartinAppleGuy]

You're mad... Sounds like your ego has been hurt. Is it because we both know you're only pretending to know what you're talking about or is it because your beloved company is releasing outdated products? My guess is both. But go ahead and keep believing the only specs that matter are the ones that Apple tells you about. Is it true what they say? Is ignorance really bliss? I figure you're as good a source as any for that information.

Just tell him or her to look at the Diagnostics and Usage screen on their iPad Air and let them see for themselves how awful thew situation is

 

[2IS]

Just tell him or her to look at the Diagnostics and Usage screen on their iPad Air and let them see for themselves how awful thew situation is

It won't matter to them. They're in love and have lost the ability to think clearly and for themselves. They will continue to reject reality and substitute the one Apple wants them to have.

 

[Scarpad]

I love my Ipad Air, when I bought it , it truly was the best tablet available. I hope to get several years from it, but If I was buying a tablet today, It would be a hard decision because the Samsung 10.1 Tab-S is a dame nice tablet with a beautiful screen and 2gb ram, I'd be hard pressed to get an Air 2

 

[Zinthar]

You're mad... Sounds like your ego has been hurt. Is it because we both know you're only pretending to know what you're talking about or is it because your beloved company is releasing outdated products? My guess is both. But go ahead and keep believing the only specs that matter are the ones that Apple tells you about. Is it true what they say? Is ignorance really bliss? I figure you're as good a source as any for that information.

Wow, losing your cool there? You got called out and respond by doubling down on the stupidity. When the benchmarks come in, Air 2 will crush all of the tablets that your little fanboy mind loves -- any Samsung tab, the new Nex 9. Take your pick; they're behind.

Care to refute that with a detailed analysis of how Tegra and the Snapdragon 805 can compete with the width and the intructions/m-ops per clock of Cyclone? Yeah... didn't think so. And I'm sure you'll be able to enlighten us with a dissertation on the weaknesses of the GX6650.

With that and 2GB of RAM, and the fastest NAND in the industry, please explain Air 2's "spec deficiency." Anyone who knows the first thing about this stuff saw Apple unveil the fastest ARM mobile device ever made. It's an enormous leap over Air 1 (where you could have made part of a case for a spec deficiency).

It's alright. You just assumed that because Air 1 was weak on RAM and GPU that naturally they did the same with Air 2, and you didn't know any better. You could spend some time and learn a little about this stuff. I can't promise you'll understand it.

 

[2IS]

Wow, losing your cool there? You got called out and respond by doubling down on the stupidity. When the benchmarks come in, Air 2 will crush all of the tablets that your little fanboy mind loves -- any Samsung tab, the new Nex 9. Take your pick; they're behind.

Care to refute that with a detailed analysis of how Tegra and the Snapdragon 805 can compete with the width and the intructions/m-ops per clock of Cyclone? Yeah... didn't think so. And I'm sure you'll be able to enlighten us with a dissertation on the weaknesses of the GX6650.

With that and 2GB of RAM, and the fastest NAND in the industry, please explain Air 2's "spec deficiency." Anyone who knows the first thing about this stuff saw Apple unveil the fastest ARM mobile device ever made. It's an enormous leap over Air 1 (where you could have made part of a case for a spec deficiency).

It's alright. You just assumed that because Air 1 was weak on RAM and GPU that naturally they did the same with Air 2, and you didn't know any better. You could spend some time and learn a little about this stuff. I can't promise you'll understand it.

If laughing at you is losing my cool then by your defination I suppose I am. Let me enlighten you. 2gb of ram is a 2012 spec for everyone but apple and it's not even confirmed that it has 2gb so it might still be a 2010 spec

Secondly, the amount of ram does not dictate benchmark scores. I wouldnt think I'd need to explain that to someone who knows what they're talking about. But on the bright side, you now know what I already did. You don't know what you're talkimg about. You're welcome.

 

[ajumbaje]

the iPads that release after the respective iPhones have improved ram in one or multiple categories(size, speed, type).

In other words, I won't be surprised if we see a bump to 2gb ram starting with the air 2. I wouldn't be surprised if the mini sticks with 1gb. Nothing substantial changed in that device besides the touchid

 

[DisplacedMic]

Can't tell if your comment is just willful ignorance or underlying stupidity.

If you seriously think that the Air 2 is "under-specced", you don't understand the first thing about computer hardware.

lots of unnecessary nastiness coming from you in this thread... which of course just spawns more nastiness. can't we keep it civil?

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We are talking Apple here not Microsoft or Android. As a general rule, Apple products run great at half the RAM of the other two. It has to do with software design. I would love to have 2GB of RAM but I guarantee that 98% of the time no one would notice the difference. It's an iPad not a Mac Pro.

the new chip might resolve this, but i can tell you i definitely notice tabs refreshing and apps crashing.

 

[Zinthar]

lots of unnecessary nastiness coming from you in this thread... which of course just spawns more nastiness. can't we keep it civil?

It was directed entirely at one person who is spewing uninformed nonsense (and who does so repeatedly throughout the forums in every thread he/she visits). MR *should* be held to a higher standards and ban such people.

 

[2IS]

It was directed entirely at one person who is spewing uninformed nonsense (and who does so repeatedly throughout the forums in every thread he/she visits). MR *should* be held to a higher standards and ban such people.

That would mean youd have to reregister

 

[sundragon]

I get your point, but, technology devices will always be about specs. It's how their made, how they function. An increase in specs is always touted by Apple when they have something to brag about. Take a look at the iMac announcement, lots of numbers, lots of that. They don't talk about the RAM because they know it's a bad selling point to advertise 1GB RAM at this point in the life of the line. What about them bragging about 64-bit architecture?

An iPad having 1 GB RAM heading into 2015 is inexcusable. Many apps have lagged and have been consequences of crashing when the more intensive programs are being used at once.

It's *fine* because some don't care, but trying to defend something like this is a little strange to me.

It kind of reminds me when the 4s still didn't have LTE. They certainly glossed right over that at that keynote.

please list the crashing programs.

My Air rarely if ever crashes and its usually due to a program bug, not RAM... They update and it stops crashing...

 

[Zinthar]

If laughing at you is losing my cool then by your defination I suppose I am. Let me enlighten you. 2gb of ram is a 2012 spec for everyone but apple and it's not even confirmed that it has 2gb so it might still be a 2010 spec

Secondly, the amount of ram does not dictate benchmark scores. I wouldnt think I'd need to explain that to someone who knows what they're talking about. But on the bright side, you now know what I already did. You don't know what you're talkimg about. You're welcome.

So the new flagship Android tablet also suffers from this "2012 spec". Well I guess the Nexus 9 is crippled then because it also has 2GB. Forget the K1 because we have a 2012 spec alert on the RAM (and if you've used the L beta you'd see that 2GB of RAM is plenty for stock Android now).

Further, I never stated that RAM dictated benchmarks (this was very obvious with basic reading comprehension). Rather, Air 2 will be the top-performing ARM device thanks to the second-gen Cyclone and GX6650. The latter in particular is a massive leap over Air 1.

Fortunately you can buy a nice Samsung tab with 3GB of RAM. Of course, the TouchWiz skin uses up almost a full 1GB of RAM beyond stock Android, so then once again you're back to "2012 Spec" on RAM, CPU performance that's behind an iPhone 5S, and GPU performance that can't keep up with K1 or 6650...

 

[2IS]

This thread was started with ram concerned and you responded with benchmark scores.

 

[sundragon]

If laughing at you is losing my cool then by your defination I suppose I am. Let me enlighten you. 2gb of ram is a 2012 spec for everyone but apple and it's not even confirmed that it has 2gb so it might still be a 2010 spec

Secondly, the amount of ram does not dictate benchmark scores. I wouldnt think I'd need to explain that to someone who knows what they're talking about. But on the bright side, you now know what I already did. You don't know what you're talkimg about. You're welcome.

1 RAM does dictate benchmark scores if the data set is larger than can be held in RAM.

2 iOS unlike Android isn't running everything including the GUI in VM. Look up "Google ART" it's Google's attempt at dealing with Android's pokiness which requires 2-3 gigs of RAM and Quad Core A15 processors to appear to be smooth.

• Why wasn't there an "Apple Butter Project"? But Google had to totally redo the way the GUI is drawn on Android 4.2?
• Show me one dual core 1.4 GHZ Android phone that isn't a POS?

You can't because Android is by design RAM hungry. iOS isn't running squat in VM, it's native and thus needs a WHOLE lot less RAM. Apple isn't spending the money because one of the HOLY GRAILs of apps is being able to write Apps that aren't BLOATED and lean. Oh, I know what does that all mean? LOL

I love Google products but this isn't an Apples to Apples logic... NATIVE trumps VM always when it comes to RAM and speed. The advantage of having everything compiling at runtime is platform agnosticism. You can run Android on all sorts of hardware, but it comes at a price.

P.S. Owned two Nexuses 2012 and 2013, sold them because I couldn't deal with a UI that was awfully pokey compared to my iOS devices.

 

[2IS]

1) yes, but It isn't so it doesn't

 

[MartinAppleGuy]

1 RAM does dictate benchmark scores if the data set is larger than can be held in RAM.

2 iOS unlike Android isn't running everything including the GUI in VM. Look up "Google ART" it's Google's attempt at dealing with Android's pokiness which requires 2-3 gigs of RAM and Quad Core A15 processors to appear to be smooth.

• Why wasn't there an "Apple Butter Project"? But Google had to totally redo the way the GUI is drawn on Android 4.2?
• Show me one dual core 1.4 GHZ Android phone that isn't a POS?

You can't because Android is by design RAM hungry. iOS isn't running squat in VM, it's native and thus needs a WHOLE lot less RAM. Apple isn't spending the money because one of the HOLY GRAILs of apps is being able to write Apps that aren't BLOATED and lean. Oh, I know what does that all mean? LOL

I love Google products but this isn't an Apples to Apples logic...

I can tell you for a fact iOS 7 and 8 are also RAM hungry, plug in your iPad Air while running Xcode on your Mac and you will se that just 2 or 3 apps has the RAM maxing out (and I'm not even talking games and anything super heavy).

 

[sundragon]

1) yes, but It isn't so it doesn't

How doesn't it? Please elaborate

 

[0000757]

I wouldn't either if I came out with a product in late 2014 sporting 2012 specs.

The technology in these chipsets are not 2012 technology.

Just because on the surface the numbers seem lacking doesn't mean anything. a 1.5GHz dual core chip in an Air today could run circles around a higher clock speed chip from 2011 or 2012 easily. Numbers are one extremely small part of the equation.

 

[sundragon]

I can tell you for a fact iOS 7 and 8 are also RAM hungry, plug in your iPad Air while running Xcode on your Mac and you will se that just 2 or 3 apps has the RAM maxing out (and I'm not even talking games and anything super heavy).

Maybe, but it doesn't stutter like my Nexus did with nearly nothing running. iOS doesn't have full multitasking like Android so it's not as apparent. That is a Google win but in the end I don't feel like I'm waiting for the Air to complete anything, the entire experience is smooth as butter and I don't miss not being able to run 3 apps at once. I would make the case that there are a small subset of the population that need full multitasking vs limited multitasking on their mobile devices. Heavy users, yes but most people are talking on the phone and Facebooking (is that a word??) at the same time, not running Bittorrent, and two other apps in the background, lol

 

[2IS]

How doesn't it? Please elaborate

The benchmarks DO fit inside the available ram so in the case of the iPad more ram would not dictate the outcome of the benchmark results, even though it would provide for a much better overall user experience. So it's back to what I originally said. RAM doesn't dictate benchmark scores. Speed of ram would, not the amount, not on the ipad.

 

[TechGod]

I wouldn't either if I came out with a product in late 2014 sporting 2012 specs.

The A8 is comparable to the S801. With half the cores and lower clock freq. That's not 2012 specs at all...

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Maybe, but it doesn't stutter like my Nexus did with nearly nothing running. iOS doesn't have full multitasking like Android so it's not as apparent. That is a Google win but in the end I don't feel like I'm waiting for the Air to complete anything, the entire experience is smooth as butter and I don't miss not being able to run 3 apps at once. I would make the case that there are a small subset of the population that need full multitasking vs limited multitasking on their mobile devices. Heavy users, yes but most people are talking on the phone and Facebooking (is that a word??) at the same time, not running Bittorrent, and two other apps in the background, lol

What Nexus?my Nexus 4 is smooth as hell on 4.4

 

[bobright]

Can't you run a certain website to test RAM on a device? Why didn't any of these geeks do it on the display models when they had a hands on?

 

[2IS]

Can't you run a certain website to test RAM on a device? Why didn't any of these geeks do it on the display models when they had a hands on?

My guess is they were only allowed to discuss certain aspects of the iPad per their agreement with Apple. I don't think its coincidence that most all the "previews" read so similarity.

 

[Mackinjosh]

Instead of clapping like idiots at everything Apple says, maybe one of them could have asked how much ram was in it.

 

[2IS]

Instead of clapping like idiots at everything Apple says, maybe one of them could have asked how much ram was in it.

And risk not being invited to see the same thing next year?