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I don't know anyone that uses google maps any more unless they are on the web (android users aside). There is just no real reason to.

Anyone have a bad apple maps experience? it was rough the first two years but that was ages ago.

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Most I know here in the office use Waze for driving, as do I; iPhone and Android users alike. Google Maps is still #1 for finding businesses and reviews. Half the locations in my area have no presence on Yelp.
 
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Tim "I like to just work with what we have" Cook will likely have an ad plan...but he'll make it so convoluted like you must be wearing a Vision Pro and the ads float above the screen. You must blink 67 times to dismiss it.
 
That's actually much more than Netflix and Hulu

Netflix standard plan : $12.99 (2019) to $17.99 (2025) = increase of 38.49%
Netflix premium plan : $15.99 (2019) to $24.99 (2025) = increase of 56.29%

Hulu Premium (no ads) : $11.99 (2019) to $18.99 (2025) = increase of 58.38%


While Disney+ increased percentage-wise more than Apple TV, Netflix, and Hulu

Disney+ Premium (no ads) : $6.99 (2019) to $!8.99 (2025) = 171.67% increase

And my Usenet sub still only costs about $30-35/year. :D
 
Another misstep from Eddy. Everyone has an ad supported tier and premium tier. Your service looks obscenely overpriced without an entry level tier.
 
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Math lesson: (12.99-4.99)/4.99 = 1.603 = 160% increase since it started !
It’s 60% increase. You’ve got to minus the 1 off the result (eg 100 -> 110 is clearly a 10% increase, and 110/100 =1.1)
EDIT: no you are right! Didn’t see the minus in the numerator
 
After getting a new iPhone I started my 3-month ATV trial, just to see what the whole hoopla about Severance was about - so I kinda enjoyed the first season and fell asleep in the second (not to mention Hollywood’s mandatory “diversity” content in it, of course) - just in time to cancel the trial, then, after trying also a bit of that Ted Lasso thing.
 
With the sheer number of shows on streaming is having an "anti-water cooler" effect. I grew up with 90's cable and, though we were past the age of "appointment television" there were still a lot of shows that "everyone" watched.

Boy, no kidding.

Every time I get together with family, they rattle off 3-4 shows "have you seen XYZ!??" and I've literally never even heard of them. Often times I've never even heard of a single person in the cast.
 
I don't think that an AD supported tier aligns with Apples values. Apple is a premium brand, AD supporting to have a lower price seems a little beneath them if I am being honest. I am guessing that is why they don't have an AD supported Apple Music tier.
 
Maps gets massive use. Heck my entire family was using it this weekend.

Sure messages is probably the most with safari second, maps is not a second tier by any definition.
Might not be second tier to you but to the average person it is second tier and probably lower for some, so "by any definition" that's very much the case...
 
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I don't think that an AD supported tier aligns with Apples values. Apple is a premium brand, AD supporting to have a lower price seems a little beneath them if I am being honest. I am guessing that is why they don't have an AD supported Apple Music tier.
You still think Apple is a premium brand?
 
I thought part of the point of paying for these streaming services was to get away from ads.
That was never the point.
It was a nice benefit, especially in the early days when Netflix pretty much was the only streamer in town, but it was never the point.
The point was to make money, of course, but also to have a proper Internet based replacement for cable TV that did away with that format‘s biggest annoyances, scheduled TV watching, more on demand content, and availability from devices that weren’t your television like your computer, and later your phone and tablet.
These days the market is completely different.
 
That's actually much more than Netflix and Hulu
Netflix (streaming) had a substantial catalog of big-name 3rd-party content from the get-go and by 2019 had also had a number of own-brand hits & a couple of blockbusters like Stranger Things.

Apple TV started out from zip, with a handful of original shows and no back catalog. No way could they have got away with asking $10+ in 2019. Now - well, your mileage may vary, but they've had several big hits, a lot of critical success, have built up a bit of a catalog and can argue a case for 'quality over quantity'.

OK, I don't know what they were thinking when they green-lighted "Time Bandits" :)
 
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Except the Villans. They aren't allowed to have Apple products.
How the heck do they work out who the villains are in things like Slow Horses or Bad Sisters?

I guess that explains why one of the first things that happens in Pluribus is that
the mobile network gets knocked out...
 
It wouldn't matter. There's nothing on there I'd want to see. This isn't just Apple. It's been a while since I watched any new tv show or series. It's all garbage or waiting for anything that was once good to conclude like Stranger Things. You have to watch or rewatch old shows to find anything good.
 
I’ve always thought if the first world ever saw a genuine consumer revolt, it’d start with TV. It’s always been a horrible experience. We went from fiddling with rabbit ears to get “less crappy” reception, to juggling three remotes that never quite work, plus paying for cable (adding premium channels ala carte), then to paying monthly premiums for “ad-free” streaming. Now, even those premium services are bringing ads back. To be fair, this has always been a group failure of electronics manufacturers, coupled with delivery services, content creators, and of course it all being monitored/policed by people who don't understand any of it at any level.

Every stage comes with the same pitch: a step forward in experience, followed by a “small compromise” to make it more affordable. “Subscribe here, no ads!” becomes “accept a few ads, and we won’t raise your price too much.”

You have to give the industry credit, they’ve mastered the art of how slowly you can turn up the heat before people jump out of the pot.

What I can’t figure out is why governments obsess over things like default search engine menus while ignoring the fact that half the media industry appears to be colluding to normalize subscription inflation. Disney and Paramount didn’t even have to meet in a smoky room, they just both knew that as long as they all moved to "ad-supported" tiers, nobody would actually leave in significant numbers.

I have to give Apple credit (for the moment), for not adding the "ad-tier", yet. I'm not optimistic that it will last. Apple is in the business of business, which means making money. I think this is usually done by making products that consumer are willing to fork over cash for. But, I'm sure someone will do the math soon and realize how much more money they can make without it costing them consumers.

Not to mention how cheap TVs are because the manufacturers have learned that they can earn more from continuously selling your data than from your one-off purchase.
 
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