Get an adapter or get the non-retina Macbook Pro. You have zero reason to complain. Zero.
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no Ethernet in 2012 MBP? bad move
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Get an adapter or get the non-retina Macbook Pro. You have zero reason to complain. Zero.
So we pay nearly 2 Grand for a beautiful "New Macbook Pro" and we have to stick an ugly a@*e adapter in to it for ethernet
OH NO!! Better not buy it.
I don't know where you work but our whole office (~2000 staff) is all wireless and we all have laptops. There's some places (I'd say government would be a prime example) where ethernet is the only option. I do all my work on wifi unless I want to transfer some big files, then I'll consider switching to Ethernet just for that.
Wireless works well for most... Apple caters for "most" as a standard and then optional extras those things that only some will need, I.e. Ethernet.
So we pay nearly 2 Grand for a beautiful "New Macbook Pro" and we have to stick an ugly a@*e adapter in to it for ethernet
If it had a proper Ethernet port it'd be the same "thinness" as the Classic/non-retina MBP.
You pays your money and takes your choice.
Me? I'm over the moon with my Late-2011. I purposely bought before they screwed it up.
Ha ha...
Isn't the Superdrive gone also?
I remember when people complained about the built-in Floppy and ZIP drives going away.
USB is your friend...
Geez Louise, get over it people.
1. The Retina MBP would not be able to be as thin with an Ethernet port.
2. If need one, just get the damn $29 adapter. You are sticking a cable in there anyway, this will just makeyou it 3 inches longer. BFD.
3. If you are that much of a crybaby, just get the thicker MBP with ethernet and stop complaining.
1. The Retina MBP would not be able to be as thin with an Ethernet port.
2. If need one, just get the damn $29 adapter. You are sticking a cable in there anyway, this will just makeyou it 3 inches longer. BFD.
3. If you are that much of a crybaby, just get the thicker MBP with ethernet and stop complaining.
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I work for a large corporation where security is definitely important. We have WiFi implemented in many of our sites but it is done in a secure manner. It isn't just throwing a wifi router on an ethernet port and calling it good. But basically where users have WiFi, they can perform any function that an ethernet user can.
In the areas where WiFi is a concern, laptops are also generally a concern so a MBP might not be your option there either.
In the areas where WiFi is a concern, laptops are also generally a concern so a MBP might not be your option there either.
LOL, this is amusing. I have worked for corporates all my working life. I have no idea what a corporate application system is. That's gobbledegook at its best.
Many progressive corporates are actually starting to class a laptop as a tool of the job. They are making their business apps web based or thin client. And they expect their employees to purchase and maintain their own laptop as tools of their particular trade. Security is maintained at the datacenter boundary, call it a private cloud if you like. Local offices are a security free for all, providing high speed internet access and access to the private cloud by VPN and other secure methods.
This is not the future, it's the present, and Apple has seen it.
The old days of managed client builds on laptops and dedicated corporate LAN/WAN infrastructure are over. It's too expensive and completely unnecessary in today's application environment.
I know Shell are doing this, BHP Billiton and EMC. These are very large global organisations.
Very intelligent statement.
High dollar pro advertising studios need the best visual display they can get, but also don't want their idea get stolen by others.
Sure the dongle is $30, but that is someone one has to carry around and hope not break, get lost, or stolen.
And get what instead?
That MBP is compromised.
For a lot of people and companies that machine is very expensive, scrape every dime they have, and then need another $30 for something that is still very much an industry standard?
Friends, stop argueing
The new RDMBPs are brilliant.
Just use Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
The new RDMBPs are brilliant.
Just use Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
If you break, lose, or leave your dongle somewhere it is easily stolen, then you only have your own incompetence to complain about.
Then those agencies won't mind paying $30 if they are "high-dollar pro". Not sure what the reference to stealing is exactly, unless you've been reading about how "easy" it is to hack into someone's home router blah blah blah.
A secured enterprise wifi network is just as secure as a physical Ethernet connection.
Why would someone so clumsy work for a high dollar pro advertising agency? Also why would people working at a high dollar pro advertising agency steal each others' dongles?
Get another computer. You have a multitude of options. Exercise your right as a consumer.
Then clearly they are not working at high dollar pro advertising agencies.
Oh, so if someone breaks into company or home and happens to grab the dongle with a bunch of other stuff it is users fault?
It's not necessarily about the speed but more security of wifi networks. This move is just going to slow federal/state government adoption even more by introducing another line item on the budget just to buy an adapter.
Password and IP address gets stolen. Easy to do, actually.
Ward way is sniffers and a bit of guessing.
Never accidentally yank on a cord?
Oh, so now its buy another thousand++ computer?
Really smart.
Excuse me whilst I laugh, Mr Hacker. Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaha.
*facepalm*
No.
What? Why would you be spending ANOTHER thousand++?
Did you buy the new MBP already without realising that it didn't have an Ethernet port? If not, then your post is nonsensical. If yes, that's just not very smart, but you have 14 days to return it for a full refund.
Exercise your right as a consumer and buy the laptop that meets your needs.
You don't really work at a high-dollar pro advertising agency, do you?
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And I am sure there are just thousands of Federal/State government workers simply itching to buy the new RMBP. I am also sure that this is a major concern at Cupertino and they'll be fixing it post-haste.
It's not like government and most corporate employees get issued with a laptop that has full disk encryption and a corporate Windows build with everything locked down.
A corporate wifi network is just as secure as a physical connection, despite what the hacker from the high dollar pro advertising agency tells us. People who tell you otherwise do not know what they're talking about, or they read something, misunderstood it and are now spreading FUD, because it makes them sound like experts.
Please quote evidence to backup this statement. Make sure the attack vector is via a properly configured corporate WiFi.
I presume you're thinking about the Ethernet cord that has a locking tab that will bring the laptop with it no matter how hard you yank
At least with the TB adapter you can hope the adapter will come out of the non locking TB port and not end up with your laptop on the floor!
I find it extremely unlikely that someone burglarized anyone's home to steal a $30 dongle. If they broke in, they're most likely stealing your computer, among many other expensive things. The dongle would be the least of your worries in your hypothetical. More importantly, removing the ethernet port does not not increase or decrease the likelihood of your silly hypothetical, so I fail to see why Apple should consider it in their design process.
That's not strictly true. While they CAN be as secure, in the real world many are not. And not because WiFi encryption is easily hackable, because it is not. But because they are more vulnerable to social engineering types of attack. Where an employee is tricked into revealing an access key or similar, the hacker need not be physically connected to the network to take advantage of this. Clearly this is inherently less secure, where the attacker does not have to be within traditional corporate boundaries. It's relatively easy to work around this with 2 factor authentication, etc, but many corporate WiFi networks still don't have these controls.
You're missing the point of my post. I'm not talking about individual employees buying laptops. Why would they do so? I'm talking about mass deployment across an an enterprise as a life-cycle upgrade.
Just protecting the end device is not enough to secure an entire network. The network, wired or wireless, is one of the most vulnerable aspects of security after the human element. In some organizations, wifi is just not an option because the risk is too high.
That being said, I was referring to the adoption rates of the new RMBP across an entire enterprise network. Adding one more thing necessary to the budget will just slow or dissuade orders from Apple.