How do they have nothing to do with each other when Apple themselves are marketing the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement? Apple openly ridiculed the idea of having to reach across one’s desk to navigate on your computer. Now how are they encouraging people to use the iPad Pro?
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iPad Pro No file system - don't call it a "computer"
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How do they have nothing to do with each other when Apple themselves are marketing the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement? Apple openly ridiculed the idea of having to reach across one’s desk to navigate on your computer. Now how are they encouraging people to use the iPad Pro?
TMRJIJ
macrumors 68040
You’re not reaching over the desk to use the iPad Pro. It is much more versatile and iOS UI is touch friendly.
redman042
macrumors 68040
The strict sandboxing that Apple does in iOS is the very reason why you never have to worry about malware or a virus, and you can rest assured that your data is secure. This is unique to iOS - you won't find this level of reliability/security on any laptop.
That said, the convoluted steps involved in certain file actions in iOS are still a major workflow roadblock for many of us. I really want to get the new iPad Pro, but there are still many workflows I use as a professional that just don't adapt well to iOS. It's frustrating.
That said, the convoluted steps involved in certain file actions in iOS are still a major workflow roadblock for many of us. I really want to get the new iPad Pro, but there are still many workflows I use as a professional that just don't adapt well to iOS. It's frustrating.
richpjr
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sonicrobby
macrumors 68030
I understand Joeblows point, he's referring to when the iPad is on a smart keyboard sitting on a desk would be the same experience as a mac with a touchscreen interface. If I remember Schiller commenting on this, he said no one wanted to reach up to touch their screen. It should be mentioned however, that this is a small feature/use application of iPad's versatility. Its saying 'it can do this and more'.
But at the same time, I have a hard time believing the whole non-touch friendly argument. Ive only had great experiences using splashtop remote desktop to basically make my ipad a touchscreen monitor for my windows and mac computers. Ive never had any difficulty using it for touch. Obviously the mouse/trackpad is more productive, but just when needing to do a single click on something on the mac (like hitting a "next" on an interactive video), a simple click on the screen is more natural than moving the cursor and click. I just hope people know that if Apple went this route, Id expect the prices of the macbooks to be much higher than they are now, id blindly guess a $300 premium or so; one that I wouldnt be willing to pay for (similarly with the touchbar).
Touchscreens are just sort of an common expectation now in things we use. I still remember this one time in class I tried the pinch-to-zoom on a piece of paper my professor gave me to try and expand the text. 😛
But at the same time, I have a hard time believing the whole non-touch friendly argument. Ive only had great experiences using splashtop remote desktop to basically make my ipad a touchscreen monitor for my windows and mac computers. Ive never had any difficulty using it for touch. Obviously the mouse/trackpad is more productive, but just when needing to do a single click on something on the mac (like hitting a "next" on an interactive video), a simple click on the screen is more natural than moving the cursor and click. I just hope people know that if Apple went this route, Id expect the prices of the macbooks to be much higher than they are now, id blindly guess a $300 premium or so; one that I wouldnt be willing to pay for (similarly with the touchbar).
Touchscreens are just sort of an common expectation now in things we use. I still remember this one time in class I tried the pinch-to-zoom on a piece of paper my professor gave me to try and expand the text. 😛
FrancoRumors
macrumors 6502
I’m fairly sure I read that adobe assigned 2 engineers to retool PS for iPad... and how much money did they put into this iOS version? Has that been released ?
Newtons Apple
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I do not know or care, maybe $5? This app has long been awaited by many. For me the desktop is only way I will do PS.
I’m also an attorney with MBP and iPad Pro, a PRC one though. The lack of file system on iOS makes it impossible for attorneys to use iPad Pro as a work computer, but still iPad Pro is an amazing device for reading PDF file at A4 size and taking quick note.
TMRJIJ
macrumors 68040
Again no you aren’t. The very thing that makes iPad Pro and Surface Pro (among the Tablet sized PCs) better than traditional Laptops with touch screens is the fact that you don’t need to reach over to use it. Try pressing the top right hand corner on a 13” MacBook Pro compared to a 12.9” iPad Pro. It’s a greater distance (because of the trackpad and Keyboard) and requires more little precision to make sure you hitting the right button (because macOS is not touch friendly). You can’t hold the MBP in a comfortable touch-enabled position to use the touchscreen whether it’s holding it in hand while standing or laying down or more so vertically.
sracer
macrumors G4
Once you use a mouse on an iPad for remote desktop you never want to go back to using the touchscreen. 😀 It's funny how many people here blasted Microsoft for the need to use desktop apps on a tablet (Surface Pro) and rightfully so, but then turn around and say how "fine" it is to use a touch interface to remotely access a desktop OS. 😱 (please note, this comment is NOT directed at you... there are others and THEY know who they are.)
macduke
macrumors G5
I'm starting to become less upset about the 6GB of RAM thing because, honestly, I would probably never try to open a file over 1GB from iCloud anyway. That sounds like hell. If I'm going to stitch together a massive panorama using a bunch of 42MP RAW files, I'll just use my Mac. It's not something that I do often enough to need it on my iPad. Still wish I had it for longevity's sake, but whatever. I'll be upgrading again in three years no doubt.
richpjr
macrumors 601
I must be missing your point. When I use my 12.9 iPad Pro with the ASK, I constantly have to reach up to touch the screen to do certain activities, which is an ergonometric nightmare.
I’m just citing the same criticism that people have made about touchscreen laptops. Aren’t you reaching just as far if your iPad is set up on your desk with a keyboard just like a laptop? If you find that it’s not uncomfortable to use an iPad Pro this way, that also invalidates the criticism of touchscreen laptops, which is my point.
Can you please tell me, step by step, how to load a 3GB PSD file from my Mac to my iPad and open it in PS (iPad version)?
flur
macrumors 68020
Surface Pro owner here. Using the touchscreen with the keyboard attached is exactly like using a touchscreen laptop. Exactly, no difference. The SP has a touchpad on the keyboard, which makes it usable exactly as a laptop. This is how Microsoft compensated for the weird experience of touching the screen when you have a keyboard in front of you. Apple has not compensated for this, creating the exact experience they said they did not want to create.
InuNacho
macrumors 68010
The lack of a file system is one of the reasons why I switched to an Android phone. I keep my USB C - A nub in my wallet and can transfer files from associates' drives and devices onto my SD card and then to my computer later.
TMRJIJ
macrumors 68040
Well, maybe it's just me but I find reaching up to an actual Laptop screen much more tiresome than an iPad Pro.
I use my iPad for work also. Lots of cross-platform note taking, email, Word docs/PPT, etc.
If you use a cloud system it works very well. My company uses Microsoft OneDrive and Office and that all works great on the iPad. I can edit a file on my iPad and it will auto save the changes and push them to OneDrive automatically. If I open them on my Thinkpad they're up to date. I am pretty sure Google/Apples cloud systems work identically.
So it can be done, and it can work very well - as long as you're willing to go to the cloud.
I thik apple markets the iPad to kids/older folks as the sole computer, and the rest of us as a companion.
sonicrobby
macrumors 68030
Im having a hard time understanding why. Do you mean because of that extra distance added by the trackpad?
richpjr
macrumors 601
Im having a hard time understanding why. Do you mean because of that extra distance added by the trackpad?
I’m still missing the point.
I find the experience of using the touchscreen on my Dell XPS13 13" laptop much the same as using my iPad with a keyboard - the reach is very similar. I always use a mouse with my laptop ...
Hey, I’m an XPS 13 user too. I love it!
I’ve been using touchscreen laptops pretty much since they became a thing with the launch of Windows 8. I appreciate the functionality very much. That being said, I use the touchpad/mouse like 95% of the time.
Anyway, I just find it funny that Apple is against touchscreen laptops but won’t allow for mouse support on a touchscreen device that they are trying to market as a laptop substitute.
I guess I'd amend my comment to using a mouse around 95% of the time - mostly because I usually use the laptop now with an external monitor and keyboard on a desk. Yes, I'd like a mouse to use at times with my 10.5 iPP.