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What world do you live in. You plug your phone in Itunes to update music or something and it tells you there is an update.

My wife hasn't looked at iTunes ever, the only time it gets plugged in to the computer is when it's full and she transfer photos and videos to iPhoto.

Apple really have made it amazingly simple to use the phone without iTunes.

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I share your opinion about Apple. I've been an enthusiast since 2001, but not anymore.

I expressed my opinion on a thread, someone called me a troll. Then bad moderation temporarily suspended my account for a few days claiming I was trolling and linking to the comment where I had been called a troll.

People, pls be careful calling others things like troll.

Funny, I've been suspended for calling another member a troll, but I have yet to see a single report of mine where other people call others trolls result in any kind of suspension.
 
I would normally type out a constructive response, but this thread is just too ridiculous.

My advice to OP: don't bother starting any kind of 'movement', just deal with it. You'll get used to it after a while and then you'll realise how silly it was kicking up such a fuss.
 
The updater tells you what was going to change... including the UI

If you are or were such an Apple fan and you buy loads of their stuff surely you would have known about IOS 7 which would mean you knew it was coming and what it looked like.

Stop crying learn to love the rainbow.
 
As someone who waited on line overnight for the iphone 4, who purchased one for my gf, who purchased an ipad, who purchased an iphone 5.... I hate io7... It is very different than the product and operating systems that I paid my money for... The audacity to be told by apple that I MUST accept the new system like it or not! that there is no way back.... My response is very simple... I WILL NOT EVER purchase another apple product.... I will encourage my friends not to... How dare a company make such an extreme change to a product and not give its customers the opportunity to get back to the product that they Paid hundreds, thousands of dollars for....

BooHoo:rolleyes:
 
It was not that way when I purchased it

Did they take things away from you? Functionality? Can you still make phone calls? Can you text? Can you check the weather? Can you surf the Internet? Can you play a game? Can you listen to music? Can you watch a movie? Can you check sports scores?

That's what I thought. You still have the same product, just a different coat of paint.

The update notes (that you see and can read ok the same page as where you hit "update") state that there was a new design. You could have looked into that before updating the software.
 
It's amazing how so many of you blindly accept whatever it is that Apple policy and don,t even assert your individual rights - as if God himself had decreed that we all must accept a change and there is no turning back. Anyone who resists the will of the mighty apple is a winer or a troll who must, MUST accept the will of apple .... You can not see how important it is to allow the consumer to revert back to a previous OS in the wake of a major redesign. You do not see that most users of the iphone do not closely follow OS design changes but merely get a message on their phone that says that there is a software change that is recommended.... You can not see that it would be fair, right and just to allow access to io6 for a longer time so that those that .... I find that stunning and very revealing about some of the previous commenters
 
It's amazing how so many of you blindly accept whatever it is that Apple policy and don,t even assert your individual rights - as if God himself had decreed that we all must accept a change and there is no turning back. Anyone who resists the will of the mighty apple is a winer or a troll who must, MUST accept the will of apple .... You can not see how important it is to allow the consumer to revert back to a previous OS in the wake of a major redesign. You do not see that most users of the iphone do not closely follow OS design changes but merely get a message on their phone that says that there is a software change that is recommended.... You can not see that it would be fair, right and just to allow access to io7 for a longer time so that those that .... I find that stunning and very revealing about some of the previous commenters

1) You were not forced to update. On the same page as where it says there's an update and has you press to install and update, there is a description paragraph of the update that said that there was a major design change to iOS. One would think that a user would see that, and maybe want to check it out before updating with this new UI? And if they had, you would see the page for iOS 7 on the front page of Apple.com. It's your own fault, so stop complaining.

2) Many, including myself, are very happy with iOS 7. I've been using iOS for 6 years and it is by far the best version of iOS in my opinion, and the re-design was much needed.
 
long term eh? I had an Apple II (not II+ or IIe) - that is a long term Apple person.

Use it for a while - sure ios 7 takes a bit to get used to but I have found after a couple of days it is OK - Some things are better and some are about the same and some worse but moving forward always has things to learn and things that may not make sense.

It you hate it and what Apple has done to you - then leave - thousands do every year and thousands come.
 
There was no warning of such a drastic change. Like most unsuspecting consumers, I got a message on my equipment about an upgrade and I upgraded. Luckily I have warned others who have no idea that the product that they purchased is about to be altered in a huge way

Really? Because every one of my co-workers and students knew about iOS 7. If not before release, they certainly did after the release. This is evidenced by the number of them who asked me before they hit "Update."

And even the oldest members of our staff have updated and love it. There was a warning, and you're not a victim.

Sure, you can't go back. IIRC, it has been this way since it was called iPhone OS.
 
1) You were not forced to update. On the same page as where it says there's an update and has you press to install and update, there is a description paragraph of the update that said that there was a major design change to iOS. One would think that a user would see that, and maybe want to check it out before updating with this new UI? And if they had, you would see the page for iOS 7 on the front page of Apple.com. It's your own fault, so stop complaining.

2) Many, including myself, are very happy with iOS 7. I've been using iOS for 6 years and it is by far the best version of iOS in my opinion, and the re-design was much

It is my fault that they don,t allow one to go back to the previous OS? How is that my fault? Again, you keep going back to the issue of accepting the update, and not what this is about, which is the policy to not allow one to get access to io6!
 
As someone who waited on line overnight for the iphone 4, who purchased one for my gf, who purchased an ipad, who purchased an iphone 5.... I hate io7... It is very different than the product and operating systems that I paid my money for... The audacity to be told by apple that I MUST accept the new system like it or not! that there is no way back.... My response is very simple... I WILL NOT EVER purchase another apple product.... I will encourage my friends not to... How dare a company make such an extreme change to a product and not give its customers the opportunity to get back to the product that they Paid hundreds, thousands of dollars for....

So you waited in line a few times to get the "newest & grandest".
We all have, I've done the same times 2 (X2 - my wife likes newest and grandest also)

And I am not a fan of iOS7 either, but since you have had iDevices since the iPhone 4, the inability to revert the firmware (unless you jailbreak) is no surprise.

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The ability to rollback or not is the key. I am - or was - a long time apple enthusiast not some"troll"

I think you crossed the bridge to Trollsville with this thread :rolleyes:
 
The whole point is the enforcement of the "can't ever go back" policy in light of a major change to the OS Even Microsoft allowed for consumers to reverse the process in a windows upgrade. How can you not see how wrong this is from the consumer's perspective??

So you have been under a rock. Ever hear of windows 8 and consumers desire to have 7 instead?:rolleyes:
 
The audacity to be told by apple that I MUST accept the new system like it or not!

Yeah, I really resented it when Tim Cook put a gun to my head and told me I MUST accept the upgrade.

Sheesh.

iOS7 is an improvement, with many advances. Roll with it for a couple weeks and you'll not only come to accept it, you'll probably like it quite a lot.

As to the inability to roll back, that's been the case with all the big updates from the very beginning. I don't really understand the technical reasons for it, but it's not new and it's not specific to iOS 7.
 
You're kidding right?

There has been a lot of news about ios7 before it was released

Agree. Threadstarter would have to have been "off the grid" for months not to have been aware of this drastic revamp.
The new design for iOS has been in the news, TV, print and radio, plastered entirely across the internet, and every other medium I can think of.

You say you are an enthusiast? Yet you never saw even ONE thing about iOS7? not even ONE picture? I call BS. the front page of every Apple/iphone site was plastered with images and reviews! lol

Not just Apple related sites, the whole spectrum of information has been buzzing with news of the change.
 
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As someone who waited on line overnight for the iphone 4, who purchased one for my gf, who purchased an ipad, who purchased an iphone 5.... I hate io7... It is very different than the product and operating systems that I paid my money for... The audacity to be told by apple that I MUST accept the new system like it or not! that there is no way back.... My response is very simple... I WILL NOT EVER purchase another apple product.... I will encourage my friends not to... How dare a company make such an extreme change to a product and not give its customers the opportunity to get back to the product that they Paid hundreds, thousands of dollars for....

I usually have my movements in the morning, after coffee...
 
It is my fault that they don,t allow one to go back to the previous OS? How is that my fault?
So you're going to start a movement today about a situation (not being able to go back to the previous OS) that's existed since 2008? :eek:
 
I'm so tired of people saying its WAY different. It's not. Get over it. The icons are different, holy crap! What am I to do!?!?! Everything else works the same, but I have a few extra features that are convent! This makes me so angry! Why would they improve this! I'm never buying an Apple product again because they improve them. That's that. I'm finished with Apple!
 
It is my fault that they don,t allow one to go back to the previous OS? How is that my fault? Again, you keep going back to the issue of accepting the update, and not what this is about, which is the policy to not allow one to get access to io6!

Right, but you had access to iOS 6. You made the conscious decision to forfeit that when you hit "Update." It was optional and you had all the opportunity in the world to learn about it before you got it.

Although really, if you had saved your blobs and the IPSW you could still revert to iOS 6.

If you want to talk about consumer rights, let's talk about how you typically won't get ANY updates on an Android phone and how there are hundreds of Android tablet models out that quite simply don't work. Then let's compare that to iOS, where major OS updates are free and everything works as advertised.
 
It is my fault that they don,t allow one to go back to the previous OS? How is that my fault? Again, you keep going back to the issue of accepting the update, and not what this is about, which is the policy to not allow one to get access to io6!

It's because they don't want to have to support two different versions of iOS at the same time.

And yes, it's your fault for blindly updating. You said we just conform to whatever Apple wants for liking iOS 7 and accepting it - what's with you blindly updating just because Apple released an update? Don't get mad at Apple because you are an ignorant user. They say there is a significant redesign to the User Interface, it might make sense to take a look at what the redesign looks like before updating.

Knowledge is power.
 
And it is exactly this smug attitude that will cause consumers to turn away from Apple!

We have heard this for years, yet the Apple share of the smartphone market continues to grow, every year.

It's a simple concept. If you don't like the new firmware, sell your iDevice on Craigslist or eBay and find a system you like better.

But man up, accept the responsibility that YOU didn't adequately research before you jumped and show some maturity.
 
It is my fault that they don,t allow one to go back to the previous OS? How is that my fault? Again, you keep going back to the issue of accepting the update, and not what this is about, which is the policy to not allow one to get access to io6!

I understand some people are rather reluctant to change, and thus are shocked when installing iOS 7 without knowing what they're going to get. And, no question, iOS 7 doesn't suit everybody's taste. But that's ok, neither did the old look.

The thing is that Apple has these limitations for a reason -- they don't want a level of fragmentation as in Android, where some new devices STILL are sold with the years-old 2.3 version.

The people that complain about not going to be able to go back to iOS 6 now are the same that would complain 2 months later if they could that they don't get any App- and security-updates any more.

Tl;dr -- I understand why you want to go back if you don't like it. But the decision that you cannot is there for a reason. Functionality wise, you didn't lose anything, and if the visuals disgust you that much go look for a different mobile OS in the future.
 
As someone who waited on line overnight for the iphone 4, who purchased one for my gf, who purchased an ipad, who purchased an iphone 5.... I hate io7... It is very different than the product and operating systems that I paid my money for... The audacity to be told by apple that I MUST accept the new system like it or not! that there is no way back.... My response is very simple... I WILL NOT EVER purchase another apple product.... I will encourage my friends not to... How dare a company make such an extreme change to a product and not give its customers the opportunity to get back to the product that they Paid hundreds, thousands of dollars for....

not even sure where to start!

1) apple will not miss you.
2) iOS7 is the same as iOS6,5 etc.. just a different look and more features. Much the same way Windows8 is... this is normal for companies to update and evolve their OS. Apple has been LOOOONG overdue for something like this, and in my opinion iOS7 was still not enough change.
3) Apple never alows people to go "back" for more than a few days from release...as a fan of apple, you should know this as well.

one word... research




There was no warning of such a drastic change. Like most unsuspecting consumers, I got a message on my equipment about an upgrade and I upgraded. Luckily I have warned others who have no idea that the product that they purchased is about to be altered in a huge way

The ability to rollback or not is the key. I am - or was - a long time apple enthusiast not some"troll"

You say you are an enthusiast? Yet you never saw even ONE thing about iOS7? not even ONE picture? I call BS. the front page of every Apple/iphone site was plastered with images and reviews! lol
 
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