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The OP has convinced me!

Windows Phone® devices offer the latest in technology without the poor user experience of the other phones that make you use them a certain way. That's because Windows Phone® isn't built for all of us, but for each of us. It's the smartphone reinvented around you.

OP, please help me decided which Windows Phone® device would be best for me.
 
The ability to read and learn more about the software you are installing before you blindly go for it is key. You say there was no warning. The keynote was back in June and Apple's website has had images and videos of it available to view since then.

You have to understand that there are people who do not follow those kind of news or events... Who liked the way their iDevices looked and worked, and who consider them to be appliances and nothing more... And that is the way Apple wanted things to be... And now, maybe for the first time, they relase an update that changes, not only the looks of iOS, but also many functionalities in it... Some like those changes, some do not, and thats alright... But, maybe they could have left the rollback window open a bit longer this time... For those who don't follow tech news or aren't members of any tech forums...
 
You have to understand that there are people who do not follow those kind of news or events... Who liked the way their iDevices looked and worked, and who consider them to be appliances and nothing more... And that is the way Apple wanted things to be... And now, maybe for the first time, they relase an update that changes, not only the looks of iOS, but also many functionalities in it... Some like those changes, some do not, and thats alright... But, maybe they could have left the rollback window open a bit longer this time... For those who don't follow tech news or aren't members of any tech forums...

You don't need to follow tech news or be a member of tech forums to see - in the update description, right above where you press download and install - that it says there is a significant change to the user interface, and to go to apple.com to see the iOS 7 info link on the front page of their website.
 
The iPhone no longer even looks or feels like an Apple product anymore. It's pretty sad. I miss the days where iOS and Mac OS looked similar. I miss the photo-realistic icons and interface elements. Now it's all just white and blue. It reminds me of going all the way back to Mac System 7.0 where everything was very flat and high contrast.
 
Right...let's go paint your car fluorescent green purple and pink overnight ... You just have to live with it, no need catering to your likes and dislikes.... Oh, and sorry it won't start, the battery is drained :)

That's it, in a nutshell :)
Apple should have said "This update will first and foremost make your battery perform like it's four years old. Next up, the screen of your device will have horribly bright white and green colours. The notes and calendar apps will be ruined. If you don't accept these changes then we urge you not to update your device."
 
Here's what I wrote last week...




I've been using iOS 7 since the betas, and while i'm pretty happy with it, I know that the way they are rolling it out (i.e similar to iOS 1-6, and not allowing people to go back after the initial 2-3 day window closes) is going to cause threads like this to start popping up a few days launch, and in my opinion we're only going to see more people like this over time.

Very true. But then there will be less. After Apple goes out of business because of the OP's grassroots campaign to stop people from buying things on the App Store this house of cards will come tumbling down. And there will be nothing to complain about.

Either that or people will get used to iOS 7 and move on to posting about the next huge misstep that will destroy Apple.
 
Very true. But then there will be less. After Apple goes out of business because of the OP's grassroots campaign to stop people from buying things on the App Store this house of cards will come tumbling down. And there will be nothing to complain about.

Either that or people will get used to iOS 7 and move on to posting about the next huge misstep that will destroy Apple.

^^^ THIS

It's been going on since iPhone 4 was released. I remember the "OMG! It's GLASS?! Are they insane? It will break within the first week! What were they thinking?! This is the beginning of the end for Apple!". Then it was the iPhone 4s; "It's nothing more than a 4 with an s!?" "They no longer innovate, they're doomed!" "The DROID WILL EAT THEIR LUNCH!".

And here we are, 5 + years later and the beat goes on...
 
There was no warning of such a drastic change. Like most unsuspecting consumers, I got a message on my equipment about an upgrade and I upgraded. Luckily I have warned others who have no idea that the product that they purchased is about to be altered in a huge way

Seriously....just stop. If you are so into Apple stuff that you took the time to join this site, then you had plenty of "warning". If you just blindly update without looking to see what is going on, well....that's a you problem.

But everything is not for everyone. If you don't like it then you are free to vote with your wallet and move onto something else.
 
.... You can not see how important it is to allow the consumer to revert back to a previous OS in the wake of a major redesign. .... You can not see that it would be fair, right and just to allow access to io6 for a longer time so that those that

Perhaps in previous iOS updates this might be feasible but iOS7 was a complete redesign which means all iOS apps had/have updates to make then function correctly. All those apps then wouldn't work correctly if you reverted back to iOS6. Apples motto is "It just works" so by allowing you to revert back would cause apps to crash and then have a bad user experience; kind of like android if you as me:rolleyes:.

Also as many have already pointed out you really can't be die hard Apple fan if you had no clue about iOS7 and rubbing salt on the wounds is that your a MacRumors forum member. The reality is your not a die hard Apple fan but a pissed off person who has around $1000 in Apple hardware that you now don't like using. Your 100% in your rights to state you don't like the change and that you will leave Apple products behind. But I really hope your not so naive to think that you will have any impact on Apple's bototm line and also that any other OS/phone maker will really be any different. This is just the way the electronics world is plan and simple.
 
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Seriously....just stop. If you are so into Apple stuff that you took the time to join this site, then you had plenty of "warning". If you just blindly update without looking to see what is going on, well....that's a you problem.

But everything is not for everyone. If you don't like it then you are free to vote with your wallet and move onto something else.

There was no warning about the severe battery drain.
 
go back to ios6 if you dont like it, then you have what you paid for.

i love ios7 and feel i got more than i paid for now with this upgrade
 
Really!?

Every time and I mean every time a new iOS comes out or an update for iOS comes out this board blows up with "severe battery drain" issues.

Yes and every time a clean install, not updating from backup and switching off some power hungry settings fixes it. I know that, I'm a longtime iPhone owner. Only this time those steps haven't cured the problem on my iPhone 5. Fact.
 
why is everybody so frustrated with iOS 7.. is the same thing with a different appearance.. finally something new.
 
There was no warning of such a drastic change. Like most unsuspecting consumers, I got a message on my equipment about an upgrade and I upgraded. Luckily I have warned others who have no idea that the product that they purchased is about to be altered in a huge way

I mean no harm by asking this question - but did you not see any screenshots or videos of iOS 7 in action before you upgraded? Apple.com had an entire section that showed the drastic UI changes, as did a lot of other tech websites. I'm sorry that you are now stuck with an OS that you don't like, but there was plenty of "warning" about the change.

Where I do agree with you is on Apple allowing users to go back to the previous OS. I've never agreed with them refusing to sign for the previous iOS version once a new one hits the streets.
 
this is long:

i really didnt read every thread but i did read the OP's first one and everything on the front page. but alot of people aready said there was months of warnings and seeing that you have signed up in 2010 just dont know how active you are. you would have been almost no correct that...100% have seen mention of iOS 7 and the changes. I came to iOS when i got the iPad 3 which had iOS 5.

the only change i see is graphical. yes there may be more settings and other behind the scene changes but its much faster to me at least and more smother. time changes everything and sometimes companies either must adapt, change everything or be left in the dust. look at black berry. once the most popular smartphone now going on there way out. they did not adapt, they did not change or make changes but bet on because they were the most poplar smartphone they didnt need change but loyalty would have won them over...well they lost and by the end of the year i think we will see black berry out of business with patents being sold to either android or apple.

people like change if your not one of those people that need to adapt in an ever so fast paced world then good for you. but i would also suspect to seem some of the iOS 7 graphical changes in the new os x update with "flat" looking. apple needed to change the way iOS 7 looked because it was the same old looking ios for about 6 years. it was a much needed refresh and sales and downloads showed that. to have iOS 7 on over 200 million devices in the first couple of days was fast and to sell over 9 million phones in 3 days was on heard of. apple has and always will be a market disrupter, although they take there time to make sure there stuff works before pushing it out. it works end of story.

apple updates there products once a year and people still buy them. they arent the biggest company in the world (in terms of market cap) for nothing. people still and always will buy there products.

but you are entitled to your opinion but dont come on here thinking every one feels the same and not to buy apple again because of one change. sorry for the rant.
 
The ability to rollback or not is the key. I am - or was - a long time apple enthusiast not some"troll"

I upgraded my iPad and downgraded the next day.

Apple is not signing the OS now, so you can't do the same. You might not be a troll, but you are an uninformed customer bitching and moaning about something that is your own fault. You upgraded = your fault. You were not informed about the window of opportunity to downgrade to iOS6 = your fault.
 
Pretty pathetic, these kind of complaints.

I'd get it if they made a complete overhaul of everything, but my autistic 4 year old and 2 year old had no issues once they realised there was no lock slider bar. Says it all really

They dont even notice any difference.

A lot of people making something out of nothing!
 
As someone who waited on line overnight for the iphone 4, who purchased one for my gf, who purchased an ipad, who purchased an iphone 5.... I hate io7... It is very different than the product and operating systems that I paid my money for... The audacity to be told by apple that I MUST accept the new system like it or not! that there is no way back.... My response is very simple... I WILL NOT EVER purchase another apple product.... I will encourage my friends not to... How dare a company make such an extreme change to a product and not give its customers the opportunity to get back to the product that they Paid hundreds, thousands of dollars for....

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It's amazing how so many of you blindly accept whatever it is that Apple policy and don,t even assert your individual rights - as if God himself had decreed that we all must accept a change and there is no turning back. Anyone who resists the will of the mighty apple is a winer or a troll who must, MUST accept the will of apple .... You can not see how important it is to allow the consumer to revert back to a previous OS in the wake of a major redesign. You do not see that most users of the iphone do not closely follow OS design changes but merely get a message on their phone that says that there is a software change that is recommended.... You can not see that it would be fair, right and just to allow access to io6 for a longer time so that those that .... I find that stunning and very revealing about some of the previous commenters

You are forgetting one important aspect: with individual rights come individual responsibilities.

As an owner of an iPad 2 and iPodT5, I assert both rights and responsibilities each time an app or iOS is updated, or a new iOS is introduced.

I think before I act and make it a point to learn about the update, read what the devs claim, and what early adopters have to say. Reviews can be enormously helpful. Right now both devices are on iOS 6.1.3 - but will be upgraded this weekend to iOS 7 - and I'll never look back.

Don't blame Apple for your own lack of curiosity.
 
There was no warning about the severe battery drain.

If you have severe battery drain, then restore to factory and set it up as a new phone. Plenty of folks not having a single issue with their battery in iOS 7. If anything I've personally seen an improvement in battery life going from 6 to 7.
 
1) You were not forced to update. On the same page as where it says there's an update and has you press to install and update, there is a description paragraph of the update that said that there was a major design change to iOS. One would think that a user would see that, and maybe want to check it out before updating with this new UI? And if they had, you would see the page for iOS 7 on the front page of Apple.com. It's your own fault, so stop complaining.

2) Many, including myself, are very happy with iOS 7. I've been using iOS for 6 years and it is by far the best version of iOS in my opinion, and the re-design was much

It is my fault that they don,t allow one to go back to the previous OS? How is that my fault? Again, you keep going back to the issue of accepting the update, and not what this is about, which is the policy to not allow one to get access to io6!

My belief is that Apple closed the rollback to iOS 6 was due to the security that was built into iOS 7. When they built the Activation Lock security into iOS 7, they didn't want anyone to attempt to override by going back to an older version of the iOS. This is my opinion but it does seem reasonable with the direction that Apple has taken with implementing security protocols after the Apple ID fiasco they went through.
 
My belief is that Apple closed the rollback to iOS 6 was due to the security that was built into iOS 7. When they built the Activation Lock security into iOS 7, they didn't want anyone to attempt to override by going back to an older version of the iOS. This is my opinion but it does seem reasonable with the direction that Apple has taken with implementing security protocols after the Apple ID fiasco they went through.

They always close the rollback, it's not new with iOS 7.
 
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