No going back to iOS 6 = no more Apple purchases! I'm starting a movement

[linds15]

That is an absolutely fallacious argument, since those compatibility issues have ONLY begun with iOS 7 itself, not to mention the fact that at least 50% of all iOS users are still on iOS 6 or earlier, without ANY fragmentation reported until now software-wise.

i think this is the main point, Apple tries to drive home their anti-fragmentation system, and buildup their adoption rates. they want to appeal to developpers and allowing anyone at anytime to go back looses them a competitive edge. at the end of the day youll get used to it and move on.

also, anyone remember when facebook introduced the home page? i remember the petition going around and all the anti-zuckerberg stuff, pretty sure no one remembers what going on facebook was like before the newsfeed

 

[Xgm541]

The reason they dont allow you to go back is to stop fragmentation. Also, because iOS is catered to the general individual, allowing people to switch back and forth will break things. And finally, if they allow you to downgrade, you will do so if a jailbreak comes out. And apple doesn't like you to jailbreak as it takes a portion of their profit away when individuals who jailbreak pirate apps (i know not everyone who JB pirates apps, but a lot do)

Second- they want you to have the latest OS because theyll probably stop development for the 6.x OS soon and if a new vulnerability comes out and you didnt upgrade, you may come back to post "HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW? WHY DIDNT APPLE FOR MY UPGRADE". I found that with most complaints, there is another person with the exact opposite view.


If you don't like it, then you can certainly get another OS phone. There are options.

 

[WeegieMac]

Thing is, as a long term iOS user (first device was iPhone 3G), I am loving iOS 7.

I cannot go back to 6 now, it looks so bloated and overly texture heavy.

To each their own.

 

[j4zb4]

They could only have made it clearer if they displayed flashing letters saying "drastic design change."

You have to go through a screen with the update notes before you can even upgrade the software.

OP obviously tunnel visioned straight to the "Download & Install" button without reading about the changes at all.

Yep... Golden rule... ALWAYS READ THE CHANGELOG BEFORE UPDATING... But, then how would people get a right to complain...

 

[Yptcn]

For threads like this one I still haven't upgraded to iOS7, still enjoying iOS6 that makes ALMOST everything I want and doesn't feel laggy, maybe someday I will upgrade.

But at least you know what to expect if one day you do upgrade

 

[Carlanga]

You can't blame apple for new software that you agreed to download... Is like updating a computer from win 7 to win 8 for free and just because it was free you didn't read about it and then complain.

I still think they should let you downgrade the first week of a major update though, especially for the oldest device that the new iOS can run.

 

[beautifulcoder]

Seriously, so folks actually expect tech companies to support outdated technology? Whatever happened to progress and innovation? Listen, I know of one company that got pretty good at supporting an OS that is now over a decade old. Last I heard, they are irrelevant.

 

[borostef]

If someone isn't willing to read even 4 sentences about the update when updating - then anything after is their fault. Apple gives you the information, it's the user's responsibility to look into these things.

You do understand that this goes against everything Apple was advertising so far... I am not saying that you are wrong, but Apple, so far, was the company which advertised the famous "It just works..." slogan and the philosophy of buying their product and forgeting of any maintenance or worrying about software... If they want us to study every update, every change... OK, but at least warn people about it... After all, it was Apple that wanted people to think about their products as appliances... Not the users.

 

[cmChimera]

As someone who waited on line overnight for the iphone 4, who purchased one for my gf, who purchased an ipad, who purchased an iphone 5.... I hate io7... It is very different than the product and operating systems that I paid my money for... The audacity to be told by apple that I MUST accept the new system like it or not! that there is no way back.... My response is very simple... I WILL NOT EVER purchase another apple product.... I will encourage my friends not to... How dare a company make such an extreme change to a product and not give its customers the opportunity to get back to the product that they Paid hundreds, thousands of dollars for....

Thanks for letting us know.

 

[mcfly88]

Guarantee OP ends up liking it after actually using it.. Also, people who warn people about updates.. stating its "bad", are the worst. Let them see for themselves.

 

[haydn!]

So that's at least one more Apple device on the shop shelf for someone else to enjoy.

 

[5aga]

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[applesith]

After using it since Friday, I am used to it. It looks the same at this point. Just some new colors here and there. It's not a drastic change other than the color scheme. It's still the same grid layout and same menus.

 

[Tyler23]

You do understand that this goes against everything Apple was advertising so far... I am not saying that you are wrong, but Apple, so far, was the company which advertised the famous "It just works..." slogan and the philosophy of buying their product and forgeting of any maintenance or worrying about software... If they want us to study every update, every change... OK, but at least warn people about it... After all, it was Apple that wanted people to think about their products as appliances... Not the users.

We're not talking about a problem with the software not working. It's a design change. Just because Apple promotes that it's software "Just Works," does not mean that one should not read release notes, even the brief description. Every update has them. They don't discuss things that don't work - they discuss anything that's changed. Them offering release notes does nothing to go against their mantra of "It Just Works," it's merely there for the users benefit so they are aware of what they are updating to and what changes there may be.

 

[RedRaven571]

I have to admit, I agree with the OP (not that I'll never buy another Apple product). But.....

What if you update your device to 'try out iOS7', find out you don't like it (for whatever reason) and want to go back? Outside of a very brief window, you can't.

In OS X, if you don't like the latest, greatest version (I updated to Lion/ML, found I didn't like them), you can 'downgrade' to your previous version (i.e. - I went back to SL); why not iDevices?

 

[Skika]

I swear these threads are getting more and more dumb.

How can anyone be so ridicolous is beyond me.

 

[braddick]

^
You need to get out in the real world more often.
There is much more ridiculousness and craziness out there then you will even find here or in this thread!

 

[Bruins Fan]

The ability to rollback or not is the key. I am - or was - a long time apple enthusiast not some"troll"

I agree with you. Give the customer the option. Most people are in a rush in their daily lives and don't have the time or desire to investigate things like the upcoming OS upgrade. They see it, and just click "update". Being able to roll it back is not too much to ask. It's really customer service 101.

 

[C DM]

Guarantee OP ends up liking it after actually using it.. Also, people who warn people about updates.. stating its "bad", are the worst. Let them see for themselves.

So...they should see for themselves, which means they need to update, but if they don't like it, what then, how do they go back to what they had? Isn't that part of the point being made in this thread?

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You can't blame apple for new software that you agreed to download... Is like updating a computer from win 7 to win 8 for free and just because it was free you didn't read about it and then complain.

I still think they should let you downgrade the first week of a major update though, especially for the oldest device that the new iOS can run.

Aside from the fact that going from something like Windows 7 to Windows 8 would require somewhat more user participation, unlike an iOS upgrade that almost requires none of it (in comparison), you can also go back to Windows 7 pretty much whenever you wanted to, which you can't really do with iOS. So, kind of an apples to oranges comparison, making it not all that relevant (and even if relevant, would actually only add more to the argument being made in the thread that it shouldn't be as "simple/quick" to upgrade and/or there should be a way to go back to what you had before).

 

[ELSELS]

I have to admit, I agree with the OP (not that I'll never buy another Apple product). But.....

What if you update your device to 'try out iOS7', find out you don't like it (for whatever reason) and want to go back? Outside of a very brief window, you can't.

In OS X, if you don't like the latest, greatest version (I updated to Lion/ML, found I didn't like them), you can 'downgrade' to your previous version (i.e. - I went back to SL); why not iDevices?

Very Wise point +1 -

 

[gotluck]

the inability to downgrade ios infuriates me
that's one reason why the most recent ios device I own is iPhone 4 - fully downgradable if you have saved shsh blobs which of course I do, this is only because of hackers (geohot) though.

 

[msvadi]

The details of iOS 7 design have been known for months. The fact that there is no downgrade option with iOS has been known for years. With modern internet technologies, all information is at your fingertips. Using web search is so much easier than starting a movement ...

On the other hand, may be I'm missing something here, because I would never wait in line overnight for a new phone ...

 

[BigMar89]

wasn't there a rumor before iOS 7 was revealed that Apple was planning to allow the user to switch between skeu and flat UI? most likely never considered by Apple but wouldn't have been so bad for those complaining or that are business savvy.

 

[burgerking2]

I have to admit, I agree with the OP (not that I'll never buy another Apple product). But.....

What if you update your device to 'try out iOS7', find out you don't like it (for whatever reason) and want to go back? Outside of a very brief window, you can't.

In OS X, if you don't like the latest, greatest version (I updated to Lion/ML, found I didn't like them), you can 'downgrade' to your previous version (i.e. - I went back to SL); why not iDevices?

I agree, I think it was like a 2-day window for most.

Couldn't they have at least waited 1 week before removing the IOS 6 software, so people could have some hands-on time? Or until they release the next revision 7.1??

Maybe it was to pad their numbers in the media: "Over 200 million upgrades to IOS 7 in the first 5 days!"

 

[Huliodude]

I'm with the OP. Why can't I have my old phone back that I paid for? You can't truly know if you'll like an OS no matter what you read beforehand until you install it and try it for yourself.

I tried it, I like some of the new features but overall much prefer iOS 6 in terms of looks and battery life on my 5.

My mother who's in her 60's and couldn't care less about iOS was really left with a learning curve she didn't expect when she updated as per the little update notice on her settings icon.

I for one am not planning on buying another Apple product until they loosen up a little.

I know I'm in the minority, and Apple is only after the majority, which makes good business sense, but I guess they're not for me any longer.