No going back to iOS 6 = no more Apple purchases! I'm starting a movement

[m00min]

Of course Apple force users to upgrade their iPhone's OS. Just not immediately. If you ever have a problem and need to restore you're forced up to the latest version.

It makes staying on your preferred OS version precarious and it's not user friendly.

 

[RedRaven571]

Maybe it was to pad their numbers in the media: "Over 200 million upgrades to IOS 7 in the first 5 days!"

They can still make that claim, who keeps track of people downgrading to a previous version....

 

[KdParker]

There was no warning of such a drastic change. Like most unsuspecting consumers, I got a message on my equipment about an upgrade and I upgraded. Luckily I have warned others who have no idea that the product that they purchased is about to be altered in a huge way

Hmmm...how about 3 months notice. And if you didn't want the upgrade don't upgrade.

Heck, even the major news channels reported on iOS7.

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You do understand that this goes against everything Apple was advertising so far... I am not saying that you are wrong, but Apple, so far, was the company which advertised the famous "It just works..." slogan and the philosophy of buying their product and forgeting of any maintenance or worrying about software... If they want us to study every update, every change... OK, but at least warn people about it... After all, it was Apple that wanted people to think about their products as appliances... Not the users.

This is a crazy argument. iOS7 is not broken, this guy just didn't like it for some reason.

If some offered to upgrade you car engine and you agreed without knowing what was in the upgrade. Then that is your problem, and you will have to make the best of it or sell the car.

 

[tripmusic]

I'm pissed as well. I upgraded to just get a taste of iOS7 and after a couple of days of realizing I liked 6.1.3 better I was going to downgrade. It was just lagging too much on my 4s and it was just hideous to look at. So I attempted to downgrade and was prompted that I was screwed. Back when iOS 4 came out, I downgraded a couple of times to iOS 3 on my 3G with no problems. Why didn't they close this signing window back then? Why not give users a good week anyways if you're going to do this? Hackers will always win the war with them anyways. I sent Apple a feedback email. Hopefully if enough users get their attention, they'll re-open this ridiculous signing window. I paid almost $700 for my iphone, I think I should be able to run whichever iOS I like better and works best with my phone.

 

[KdParker]

I'm pissed as well. I upgraded to just get a taste of iOS7 and after a couple of days of realizing I liked 6.1.3 better I was going to downgrade. It was just lagging too much on my 4s and it was just hideous to look at. So I attempted to downgrade and was prompted that I was screwed. Back when iOS 4 came out, I downgraded a couple of times to iOS 3 with no problems. Why didn't they close this signing window back then? Why not give users a good week anyways. If this is to prevent hackers from doing their thing it wouldn't make any sense. Hackers are not going to waste their time on the first new release of the iOS, they'll wait until the kinks are out. I sent Apple a feedback email. Hopefully if enough users get their attention, they'll re-open this ridiculous signing window. I paid almost $700 for my iphone, I think I should be able to run whichever iOS I like better and works best with my phone.

You could run which every iOS you wanted, and you chose to iOS7.

It was pretty clear that you couldn't go back to iOS6 once you updated.

 

[juswest]

I find your complaint and your long time enthusiast remark odd. If you were a true enthusiast, you would have known about iOS 7 way before it was released. Why? Because you have an account on this rumor site that dates back to 2010. Not only that but even on Apple's website iOS 7 was/is plastered all over it. It was also all over various technology sites. A true Apple enthusiast would not be surprised about iOS 7 when it was officially released.

Regarding the rollback request, the option to roll back is actually detrimental to Apple and us consumers which should not be allowed. Why? Because you basically want to create the software fragmentation that Android users have to deal with all because YOU don't like it. I'm not even going to go into how problematic that is for developers and everyone else involved. I think you are being very selfish and short sighted. If you are unhappy, move on to another product.

LMAO.. Did you call them selfish? For disliking something. And Android fragmentation happens for very different reasons, not because of displeased users.

 

[pajamma]

You could run which every iOS you wanted, and you chose to iOS7.

It was pretty clear that you couldn't go back to iOS6 once you updated.

How was it clear? Did the pop up window encouraging the update mention that?

No.

Did it say, oh, by the way, the new type on the keyboard is SUPER THIN, and don't bother trying to fix it with the accessibility controls. We're way too into the anorexic fonts to let you change that.

My 80+ year old father took Apple's upgrade at faith. He could easily read the keyboard letters before. Now he can't on either his phone or iPad. But that's his fault for not carefully examining the screen caps on Macrumors or the Verge or some "major news channel"? That's BS.

I feel bad for having endorsed Apple's products to him. They made the product far less useful for a lot of people and gave them no way to restore it to what they paid for. They might as well have come to his house and smacked his phone with a hammer.

 

[RobbyIdol]

You could run which every iOS you wanted, and you chose to iOS7.

It was pretty clear that you couldn't go back to iOS6 once you updated.

Wrong, and that's the problem. Most people were not aware that you could not downgrade to iOS 6 (or that such a process as 'downgrading' even existed). For those who had gone through the process before with Apple, or sit on forums like this one all the time, sure they probably had a good idea that there was a small window of downgrading opportunity.

But most people don't frequent sites like this one, or maybe never upgraded an Apple product before. So to say "it was pretty clear..." is a gross overestimation.

I'm curious as to how big or small the downgrading window was on previous iOS releases. The window for iOS 7 was so small (less than 48 hours, if I am correct), that I highly suspect Apple KNEW many folks would balk at the drastic changes and want to go back to iOS 6 immediately. But a change in management in a post-Steve Jobs world would not let that happen, as I suspect, making their own statement as the "new" Apple designers was more important than making a product that people have come trust and enjoy.

 

[hansonjohn590]

It is pretty ****** of Apple to not allow rollbacks. How many other companies do something that ******?

You could run which every iOS you wanted, and you chose to iOS7.

It was pretty clear that you couldn't go back to iOS6 once you updated.

Where was it 'pretty clear'?

 

[gotluck]

You could run which every iOS you wanted, and you chose to iOS7.

It was pretty clear that you couldn't go back to iOS6 once you updated.

It really is not clear, particularly for those who aren't tech savvy / read sites like this. I don't hear news outlets letting people know that you can't downgrade, just that iOS 7 is out. This 'no downgrading' / lockdown mantra was really started by iOS, most all other computer equipment can be restored/rollbacked to previous versions. Car analogies are crazy here, we are talking about software - where the possibility of rollback is a major precedent.

 

[iCarabma]

So I upgraded to iOS 7 and now I'm scared and confused. I can't figure out how to use it so I lost my jobs. I can't stop vomiting. My wallpaper looks stupid. My dog has cancer and Breaking Bad is ending.

Thanks Obama. #tcot.

Let's all go wait at Scott Forstall's house.

 

[rider96]

Honestly one of the many reasons I didn't like iio7 is thin lines. I tweaked the access ability options, increased font size, did bold... But for me it is difficult to see... The browser arrows at the top are difficult to see and use. Didn't have any problem with io6... So why shouldn't I be able to go back to io6?

 

[rotobadger]

Coming to this thread late but, as I see it, the OP should give it a little time before starting his anti-Apple movement. I was dead set against iOS 7 and, now that I've spent a few days with it, I love it. Yes, there are some niggling little things that went sideways with the update (I miss the weather widget in the pull down that showed the week's forecast, the music player is kinda sucky now) but overall 7 is pretty slick and is a welcome change after 6 years of the same ol' OS.

Time marches on and so do operating systems. I'm sure there will be tons of complaints about how much iOS 9 purely SUCKS compared to 8.x. Apple can not stand still (people would complain) so they did the best they could on the new OS...and it's not so bad really!

 

[mdlooker]

I thought once you upgrade you can't go back. Hasn't that been the thing for years now?

Plus I love iOS7. I love the new look and functionality. Change is good. Thread upon thread upon thread of how Apple should add this and add that and now they've done it, it's too much.

 

[rotobadger]

Honestly one of the many reasons I didn't like iio7 is thin lines. I tweaked the access ability options, increased font size, did bold... But for me it is difficult to see... The browser arrows at the top are difficult to see and use. Didn't have any problem with io6... So why shouldn't I be able to go back to io6?

I get what you're saying but, if Apple allowed users to go back, how far should they be able to go back? 6? 5? 1.x? If Apple endorsed "choose your own OS" then they would be required to support all those fragmented OS. The headache would grow exponentially. They can't be expected to write updates and apps to apply to a buttload of ancient operating systems.

Onward and upward...

 

[charlituna]

There was no warning of such a drastic change. Like most unsuspecting consumers, I got a message on my equipment about an upgrade and I upgraded. Luckily I have warned others who have no idea that the product that they purchased is about to be altered in a huge way

There was an entire summer of warning. Screen after screen on the website, the WWDC keynote etc.

 

[parapup]

It really is very dumb and arrogant of Apple to arbitrarily disallow restores to a previous version. I was lucky to be able to get back to 6.1.3 right in time while Apple was still allowing it - iOS7 really lagged badly on my iPad 3 and hardly provided any feature benefits for me. All that while looking ugly. Eeegawd - those animations

I hope my iPad 3/iOS6 combo lasts me long enough to make it possible to switch to something decent that isn't from Apple.

 

[charlituna]

So one last OMG how can you not see how wrong it is to not let people who paid hundreds of dollars on a product to revert back to the previous operating system.? Is that so hard to understand????

Given that they had to push to have it install and did it without bothering to do a little research, how hard is that to understand

Please for the love of everything just go. You said you were going to so do it. Leave Apple, leave all sites related to it so even they don't get any benefit from you.

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Or why even close it to begin with is what I'm wondering

Firmware changes, bug fixes, getting locked out of backups for starters

 

[Merkyworks]

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/09/25/apple-ios-7-user-experience/

Just saying

 

[WeegieMac]

I'm pissed as well. I upgraded to just get a taste of iOS7 and after a couple of days of realizing I liked 6.1.3 better I was going to downgrade. It was just lagging too much on my 4s and it was just hideous to look at. So I attempted to downgrade and was prompted that I was screwed. Back when iOS 4 came out, I downgraded a couple of times to iOS 3 on my 3G with no problems. Why didn't they close this signing window back then? Why not give users a good week anyways if you're going to do this? Hackers will always win the war with them anyways. I sent Apple a feedback email. Hopefully if enough users get their attention, they'll re-open this ridiculous signing window. I paid almost $700 for my iphone, I think I should be able to run whichever iOS I like better and works best with my phone.

Lag on 4s?

I think you're confusing intentionally slower UI transitions for lag. There is no lag on iPhone 4s other than beta 1 and 2 of iOS 7.

It's not as fast as iOS 6 but it's not down to lag, the UI is intentionally slower on all devices with the new UI animations. I don't get any dropped frame rates on my 4s.

 

[KdParker]

It really is not clear, particularly for those who aren't tech savvy / read sites like this. I don't hear news outlets letting people know that you can't downgrade, just that iOS 7 is out. This 'no downgrading' / lockdown mantra was really started by iOS, most all other computer equipment can be restored/rollbacked to previous versions. Car analogies are crazy here, we are talking about software - where the possibility of rollback is a major precedent.

Right - since you didn't hear about it then it didn't happen. And the same non tech savvy people you talk about really don't know/or expect that the possibility of a rollback is a major precedent.

Car analogies fit just fine when making a point. You added the upgrade without knowing what was included. You could have just googled - iOS7 and got all the good and bad points before connecting to wifi and clicking several buttons to update.

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It is pretty ****** of Apple to not allow rollbacks. How many other companies do something that ******?



Where was it 'pretty clear'?

IDK - google iOS7 and read any of the good or bad points about the update. This literally takes seconds.

 

[WeegieMac]

The level of utterly childish bitching in this thread is getting ridiculous, and I'm not talking solely about the OP here.

Some facts:

a) If you updated to iOS 7 on launch day you had three days to simply restore back via iTunes. You had the chance to go back.

b) You're a member of an Apple rumour forum, how did you not see a front page story or a thread about iOS 7 and the new design?

c) As a member of this forum how did you not see threads which clearly showed screenshots and expressed user opinions of the beta process and performance reports on various devices

d) Even if new to this site, I refuse to believe you don't read any other source of tech news or managed to somehow avoid all news of iOS 7 or it's new UI design.

e) We all have friends, these friends use tech and smartphones. No one else in your circle of friends or even work colleagues knew iOS 7 was coming and no one even mentioned in passing, "Hey have you see the new iPhone OS that is coming out soon"?

And while it doesn't actually apply in the case of iOS 6.1.3/4, Apple normally don't allow rollback due to the fact they patch jailbreak holes in the last build with updates and don't want you going back to a jailbreakable build.

 

[bdrake47]

It was not that way when I purchased it

Is your car exactly the same as the day you purchased it?

Your house?

Anything you own?

Have you ever read any of the License Agreements for your vast array of Apple products?

You've already stated in this thread that you haven't been following the news of this update for most of this year, so why did you just confirm the update without tapping Learn More?

I'm sure Apple stock will plummet from your boycott/protest/sit-in whatever, as you join the legions of ice cream sundae, jelly-belly, gummy-bear users, because no other company ever updates their software.

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It really is not clear, particularly for those who aren't tech savvy / read sites like this. I don't hear news outlets letting people know that you can't downgrade, just that iOS 7 is out. This 'no downgrading' / lockdown mantra was really started by iOS, most all other computer equipment can be restored/rollbacked to previous versions. Car analogies are crazy here, we are talking about software - where the possibility of rollback is a major precedent.

M$ is supporting downgrades? Can you easily (& legally) roll-back to Win7, XP still supported? Dell, Sony, HP or any other manufacturer makes it easy to roll-back firmware updates?

Started by iOS? Hardly.

 

[BenTrovato]

It's written on page 14 of the software license agreement. Unless..... You just pressed agree to the terms and conditions without reading the contract. Not trying to give legal advice but just saying not reading the terms to contracts you agree to in life can can lead to unexpected results.

 

[rider96]

It's so sad... I used to be so excited about apple products. I remember the anticipation waiting on line at nite for the iphone 4. Now I see how blindly many of you are led like sheep, or like communists who parrot the party line released by Pravda. Apple says no access to io6, Apple must be right. The poor soul who downloaded the Io7 and is miserable about it is treated like a troll or called to blame because they trusted the upgrade without doing enough research... And you defend this corporation blindly without question. And this makes me firm in my resolve that what has happened here is very, very wrong, and that the consumer must be protected from this arrogant corporation .... And it would be so very simple for apple to allow a week or two window for those who want to revert....