No "Happy Face" Push App?

[Rat-Boy]

Are you really going to get essential notifications from that many different sources?

If I have the notifications turned on for the app, then in my mind, they are essential.

Currently, I have these apps that notify me or probably will once they get updated with push support:

Mail.app
Yahoo Messenger
SMS (To be Messages)
Phone
Facebook
TwitterFon
ESPN
The App Store (To let you know there are updates.)
Weather App? (For storm notifications)
Bank of America?

Those don't even include any new apps people develop like the AP App, other news apps, GPS related notification apps. The sky is the limit.

Currently, I have these apps spread over 4 pages. This could also grow.

Keeping in mind that I will probably not be using the pop up message notifier because if I am playing a game that is going to annoy me.

So, I hear a BING or whatever. When I done with my game, now I have to search 4 pages of apps looking for that stupid lame (1) badge. I mean, this is just totally WEAK. Virtually EVERY phone out there does this better than that.

OR...

As the OP said...

I go to my Push Notification Manager and see ALL the notifications I have gotten over that time and the notications and short snippets, when clicked, take me to the full item in their native app.

Just a kick butt idea.

For such a revolutionary phone, the notification system is the worst on the market I can think of.

 

[fratboy]

Because he organizes his apps in the most inefficient manor possible and doesn't want to "flip through the pages" to see if he has anything.

yeah i know.. like a couple swipes of his finger on the screen is too much exercise hahaha

 

[xanadeath]

By next year all of our finger's muscles will have muscles....lol

 

[Rat-Boy]

yeah i know.. like a couple swipes of his finger on the screen is too much exercise hahaha

Its not a matter of exercise of lazyness.

It is all about being intuitive and efficient.

PRE is when it comes to Notifications.

iPhone isn't.

Period.

This idea STILL isn't as good as the PRE notification system, but is light years better than what iPhone currently will do with 3.0.

 

[xanadeath]

Oh yay...a PRE fanboy....you are blinded by your pre faith young one

 

[Rat-Boy]

Oh yay...a PRE fanboy....you are blinded by your pre faith young one

Oh yay.. An immature poster talking out of the wrong crack God gave him.

PRE fanboy?

You must not know me OR read my posts very much. Heck, just read my signature. LOL...

So now, because I think ONE feature of the Pre beats the iPhone, I am a Pre fan boy even though I own 2 iPhones and no Palm products?

Whatever.

Grow up.

 

[xanadeath]

Someone is mad

 

[cellocello]

I have pointed this out before, and I beleive this is what the OP is getting at - but "push pileup" could be a real problem on the iPhone.

Even now, if you get a text, a call, a call waiting and another text while on the phone - things get really panicky and crazy.

We don't need a "smiley face" app, per say - but we will eventually need a way to "get to stuff later".

Though, I suppose that's what badges are for .......

I dunno

 

[xanadeath]

I wouldn't imagine ever needing that type of application. I can't see people having a hundred apps that use push notifications. Sure...instant messaging is one.....maybe mail....games won't need push notifications...twitter....facebook....thats 4 there

 

[Rat-Boy]

Someone is mad

You are the one making your self look like an idiot. Why would I be mad at that?

I have pointed this out before, and I beleive this is what the OP is getting at - but "push pileup" could be a real problem on the iPhone.

Even now, if you get a text, a call, a call waiting and another text while on the phone - things get really panicky and crazy.

To me, this is why this idea is good.

Forget all those pop ups and crap.

That is a HORRIBLE notification system implementation.

Instead, have a sound to let you know you got something, and then a place to go to see all the notifications you missed while you were ________________. (Fill in the blank)

I wouldn't imagine ever needing that type of application. I can't see people having a hundred apps that use push notifications. Sure...instant messaging is one.....maybe mail....games won't need push notifications...twitter....facebook....thats 4 there

I listed 10 I have NOW that most certainly will incorporate push if they are smart.

Not to mention any new ones like the AP app.

But even if it isn't that many, it is still a better alternative then just updating the badge of said app.

MOST cell phones today have a central notification area.

 

[xyion1]

Actually, it sounds cool as hell to me and I hope a developer looks in to it.

How cool would it be to have one icon, in your doc, where ALL notifications go.

Then, when you open that push application, it lists all the notifications, like, say:

ESPN: TO Slaps head Coach
SMS: From General: I am sorry, it is really not retarded
AIM: From Mom: Why are you not in your bed
AP: Obama Fixes the Economy. NOT.

Then, when you click on one of the above rows, it takes you to said app for the full message, notification, or whatever.

Hell, I would kill for this.

This method is similar to how the Pre and G1 handle notifications. I think its far superior to the iPhone. I'm not trying to entice a flame war! Just saying I like how the Pre handles notifications.

 

[Saladinos]

Push usually requires the developer to set up a server to format data in to push messages and send them to Apple, so I think the number of push-enabled apps won't be as many as you think.

Obviously, companies with resources such as Skype, Microsoft (Windows Live Messenger, if it comes to the iPhone), AOL, Yahoo!, Google can easily afford these servers and are likely to support push quicker than most. Smaller developers may need to consider their options more carefully.

 

[dccorona]

Hey, I've never thought of it that way... Maybe you're right.

If you want a unified notification area, the solution is not one icon that gets all the notifications. The solution is for Apple to implement a built-in OS unified notification area like the WebOS and Android have.

YES YES YES YES YES!!
I want Palms notifications tray and the discreet notifications (scroll on bottom)
I came so very close to switching to Sprint for the Pre just because of that

 

[fratboy]

WOW the pre does ONE thing better than the iphone(which i dont mind the notification system at all)

Lets all go jump to a more expensive phone with less features and more problems...

and i dont wanna hear blah blah blah iphone had same problems when released

YEA that was 2 years ago.. and palm should have had 2 years to implement them properly .. but they didnt PERIOD.. i love the push notifications.

...palm=FAIL ... i would like for anybody to tell me how it is a good competitor for the iphone.. please go into MUCH detail as possible

 

[jman240]

Um, why not just implement something like the new spotlight search on the iphone. Make it a companion to the current system. Wouldn't that make everyone happy.

I already use the search to launch apps, i dont want to scroll through 5 pages with 16 apps per page when i can type like 3 letters and click go.

They already have this awesome search functionality, why not extend that and let apps plug into it so the notifications show up as badges/messages/in a search like list.

Choices are better than forced solutions. For those of you who forgot, the search looks like this.. Maybe you could search for apps that have notifications or something.

 

[rywat]

as far as having to scroll through tons of pages to get to the app/apps with the notification, wouldn't you just keep all the 'pushing' apps all on the same page or between 2 pages?

also, i believe you can customize the notification sound, so figuring out which app is notified shouldn't be too much trouble. unless i am missing something?

 

[Rat-Boy]

WOW the pre does ONE thing better than the iphone(which i dont mind the notification system at all)

Lets all go jump to a more expensive phone with less features and more problems...

and i dont wanna hear blah blah blah iphone had same problems when released

YEA that was 2 years ago.. and palm should have had 2 years to implement them properly .. but they didnt PERIOD.. i love the push notifications.

...palm=FAIL ... i would like for anybody to tell me how it is a good competitor for the iphone.. please go into MUCH detail as possible

Besides Jack and Squat, what does any of this have to do with this thread?

FACT: Notifications and how they are handled is better on the Pre. I am 100% confident that just about anyone would agree with me.

Never did I suggest anything beyond that and have blasted the Pre on this forum many a time.

Um, why not just implement something like the new spotlight search on the iphone. Make it a companion to the current system. Wouldn't that make everyone happy.

I already use the search to launch apps, i dont want to scroll through 5 pages with 16 apps per page when i can type like 3 letters and click go.

They already have this awesome search functionality, why not extend that and let apps plug into it so the notifications show up as badges/messages/in a search like list.

Choices are better than forced solutions. For those of you who forgot, the search looks like this.. Maybe you could search for apps that have notifications or something.

Not a bad alternative idea to the push handling app. But having the app as the OP suggested would not be a forced solution persay.

I wouldn't want the notifications to ONLY go there.

But just have that collector app for those that would find it useful.

as far as having to scroll through tons of pages to get to the app/apps with the notification, wouldn't you just keep all the 'pushing' apps all on the same page or between 2 pages?

I will probably do this work around because that is about the only choice I have.

But make no mistake, I shouldn't HAVE to do that and the iPhone SHOULD have a better push implementation.

also, i believe you can customize the notification sound, so figuring out which app is notified shouldn't be too much trouble. unless i am missing something?

I think you can tell it sounds, pop ups or badge updates.

But I am fairly sure you can not set different sounds, by the app.

But if I am wrong on that, then that is cool and will help.

Still think we need an app or a quick way to get to any apps that can push to quickly view notifications.

I mean, take that Doom game that is coming.

What if I am playing that for an hour.

Do I really want to have to hunt and peck for any notifications I have gotten?

The answer is no.

Or even better, what if I am in a meeting and have my phone muted and I don't feel the vibrations from the notifications?

Would love to go to one place after the meeting and see all notifications.

 

[Pattycerts]

This argument will be much easier to make when 3.0 and PN's are being used by everyone and every app that could use them. I can see the phone getting cluttered if I miss 4-5 notifications and have to check them. We'll see, I will keep most of those apps on the front page so I can see all the badges, that should help a bunch.

 

[cellocello]

This argument will be much easier to make when 3.0 and PN's are being used by everyone and every app that could use them. I can see the phone getting cluttered if I miss 4-5 notifications and have to check them. We'll see, I will keep most of those apps on the front page so I can see all the badges, that should help a bunch.

Have we seen what it looks like if one were to miss like 6 or 7 notifications?

 

[jman240]

From what i've seen the app developers choose the sounds that their notifications make.

i.e. Aim makes the aim noise
Sports app (forgot the name) made a sports themed noise for notifications.

It will be a calvicade of sounds I bet. In the middle of the night, this could become very aggravating.

I hope the ringer switch also silences those noises.....

 

[The General]

Besides Jack and Squat, what does any of this have to do with this thread?

FACT: Notifications and how they are handled is better on the Pre. I am 100% confident that just about anyone would agree with me.

Never did I suggest anything beyond that and have blasted the Pre on this forum many a time.

Not a bad alternative idea to the push handling app. But having the app as the OP suggested would not be a forced solution persay.

I wouldn't want the notifications to ONLY go there.

But just have that collector app for those that would find it useful.

I will probably do this work around because that is about the only choice I have.

But make no mistake, I shouldn't HAVE to do that and the iPhone SHOULD have a better push implementation.
I think you can tell it sounds, pop ups or badge updates.

But I am fairly sure you can not set different sounds, by the app.

But if I am wrong on that, then that is cool and will help.

Still think we need an app or a quick way to get to any apps that can push to quickly view notifications.

I mean, take that Doom game that is coming.

What if I am playing that for an hour.

Do I really want to have to hunt and peck for any notifications I have gotten?

The answer is no.

Or even better, what if I am in a meeting and have my phone muted and I don't feel the vibrations from the notifications?

Would love to go to one place after the meeting and see all notifications.

Paragraphs. Use them.

 

[Pattycerts]

Have we seen what it looks like if one were to miss like 6 or 7 notifications?

Personally no, I went to bed last night and left AIM on, and woke up to a few missed IMs, but they were all from the same app. They seem to be testing one app at a time so we won't be able to truly know until release.

 

[damesJ]

I cannot believe that people honestly think this is a bad idea. Rat-boy makes excellent points. Users should not be forced to put applications thats receive notifications on the front. Instead of conforming and figuring workarounds to the problem.. how about actually solving the problem and giving users options. Maybe some want a unified notifications system and maybe some want badges spread across all applications. Its about choice.

I also find it humorous that someone points out something the Pre does better than the iPhone gets called a blinded fanboy. Sighhh this is why apple users get a bad rep. Sorry to break it to you guys but apple is not god almighty and there are companies out there that do have better solutions to certain things. Maybe some of you should stop being the blinded apple fanboys.

/Rant

 

[eezing]

I don't know about you, but going through all my apps to see if I got anything pushed would get annoying. I have A LOT of apps, so a center push app would be helpful, to me at least.

I agree with you 100%!

After using the AIM dev beta it's clear to me that things may get messy if you receive multiple notifications from multiple apps.

A quick launch notification center would be clutch.

 

[joro]

Personally, I couldn’t imagine having more than a handful of apps that have push notification because it would defeat the purpose if you’re run is constantly dinging as new messages come in every minute or so. In saying that, with a few applications, I don’t think it’s a big sacrifice to put those in perhaps the first one or two pages of your phone. Plus, as someone else pointed out, the new spotlight feature may enable searching based on alerts or alert content.