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No iPad in March: Shattered Dreams

Apple has a right to release products as they wish. They choose to use the rumor mill to their advantage and not provide product roadmaps.

At the end of the day it's just an iPad. If it comes out in March great. If not oh well..... it will come out eventually. There's nothing wrong with product enthusiasts getting excited about new products though!
 
palpatine said:
so, i guess you can see that it isn't crazy at all? if it doesn't come out in march, i will be quite disappointed, but i think i have made an educated gamble and lost very little money in the process (ipads are already selling for much less than i sold mine for last week).

worst-case scenario? i visit macrumors more often :)
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If you have a reason for upgrading other than wanting the latest and greatest, then no it's not crazy, but there are so many people who sell their products in blind readiness for buying the next gen one just because they must have the latest and greatest.

This is something I don't like.
 
I'm as much an Apple enthusiast as all of you- but I keep a cool head- reality is we're talking about something that isn't real.

If Apple had announced a 3, then I could see the fun in being excited about it. But we're just talking about made up stuff.

You don't have to be so rabid with foam at your mouth and so territorial- think reasonably. Apple hasn't said anything.
 
motoleo said:
Unconfirmed sources are telling us one thing, while Apple Inc. has not said one word.

It becomes a problem when you see articles stating that the iPad 3 was supposed to be released last year.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/09/ipad-3/

I don't understand why people says it HAS to be released and completely ignore Apple's silence.
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Apple never comments on rumors. They announce that they are having a presentation and then introduce the product then. Last year Apple released the iPad 2 on March 11th, while announcing it a little more than a week prior. They were silent on February 15th of last year too but the product still came out a short time later.

Now did the iPhone come out on its normal schedule last year? No, but in the months leading up to WWDC there were no reports of the ramping up of production and it was the consensus of the Tech media that it would be delayed to late summer/early fall.
 
palpatine said:
maybe. but, they have a proven track record. if apple screws this up, then they'll lose a lot of business. i think it is that simple. we're not mindless simpletons. i'm watching every single android release as well, just in case :)
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we clearly have a huge difference of opinion here, because I think that the 4S was a pitiful offering after 18 months since the last iPhone.

They upgraded the specs but the actual experience of using the device didn't really change at all..other than Siri.
 
First, concerning the rumors: unless Apple has decided to sever all ties with the WSJ and Dalrymple, the only thing that is going to stop an event the beginning of March is if some technical or marketing decision go bad at the last minute. I think a WSJ report reaffirmed by Dalrymple is as close to an unofficial announcement as possible.

Second, based on Cook's statements yesterday and over the past year, Apple probably views iPad as more important than the iPhone. From the very beginning Apple has been very aggressive in this category on price and features and there appears to be no letting up in either of those categories. Quite simply, Apple has defined what a tablet should be rather than letting others define the standard. The next generation iPad should do the exact same thing that the first and second generations did - that is redefine the expectations of that class of device.
 
Let me be clear: I want an iPad just as much as anybody. But I'm still careful with my words.

Tech blogs and networks are just raping the iPad name.

You have to be smart enough to tell when something is real or fake.

At this point I don't even read anything concerning the iPad 3. Cause you know it's gonna be FAKE.
 
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matttye said:
we clearly have a huge difference of opinion here, because I think that the 4S was a pitiful offering after 18 months since the last iPhone.

They upgraded the specs but the actual experience of using the device didn't really change at all..other than Siri.
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tick / tock. same as the intel approach. tick is a big innovation, and tock is an enhancement. i didn't expect an iphone 5, even after 18 months, and i got exactly what i wanted: a decent camera (finally!) and a faster processor. i have no plans to upgrade to an iphone 5, though. i think the phone form factor has pretty much reached its apex here.

i am assuming the ipad 2 was a tock. the ipad 3 tick ought to be pretty impressive, but i guess we never know. obviously, i'll be satisfied with a better camera and processor. anything after that, especially a better display, will be icing on the cake.
 
motoleo said:
I know this is MacRumors an all, but hear me out: I'm not the type of person to let myself get carried away. And while I enjoy the rumors- don't you think it's a little much?

No one has even given any thought about the possibility of there not being a next generation iPad in a few days.

They just say, "No! It's coming whether you believe it or not."

But what about the iPhone5-in-the-bar fiasco? The "iPhone 5 prototype" unboxing video? The misinformed manufactures who build cases for non existent products?

Let's not get carried away.

The reason why I believe that there is a possibility that there may not be another iPad in the next few weeks is because- who's the target market? I mean look at all Apple has done. Incredible. Schools are using iPad 2's. Pilots are using iPad 2's. And many others who are just recieving them or haven't recieved them yet.

What would happen if another one was released? Is the market ready for that kind of thing?

All I see is baseless rumors. They can't even think up anything good and there is no reason to have another iPad. LTE? Better resolution? Could you imagine how poorly that would sell? Let's save that for when we can have some better ideas.

The iPad 2 is the it. And it will be for months to come. It can't get any thinner. It's not in need of an upgrade.

Now, that first week of March, if I'm wrong you can all come and tell me "I told you so!"

But if I'm right.....
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Is it your thought that Apple won't release an updated iPad anytime soon because the current one is "good enough" and continues to sell well?

While "past performance is no gaurantee of future results," the way Apple has behaved in the past towards their favorite product lines (eg, the iPhone, but not the :apple:TV nor xServe) suggests you're very very wrong. Apple has in the past happily updated well selling products. And, like with the iPhone 4S, it works quite well for them.

Now, is it a little much to sell you iPad 2 today in anticipation of getting an iPad 3 next month? Yeah, IMO it is. Nothing in life is certain, especially Apple product releases, and I'm not a gambler. But I certainly won't be surprised to see an iPad 3 next month, and think it's more likely than not.
 
motoleo said:
Let me be clear: I want an iPad just as much as anybody. But I'm still careful with my words.

Tech blogs and networks are just raping the iPad name.

You have to be smart enough to tell when something is real or fake.

At this point I don't even read anything concerning the iPad 3. Cause you know it's gonna be FAKE.
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You are correct that one must take care when assessing the validity of rumors. The problem about your thread's entire premise is that the constellation of current rumors are about as credible as you are going to get. At this point, a handful of what you read concerning the next generation of iPad is going to be based in fact.
 
If you honestly think Apple isn't going to release a new iPad in the immediate future you haven't been paying attention.
 
palpatine said:
ban this poster asap! this kind of talk must not be tolerated. i already sold my ipad 2 :(

actually, i think the iphone 5 (and ipad3) talk in september was silly. the expectations for features were way out of line with past precedent. and, as we found out later, steve only had a few days left with the company.

now, cook is in charge, the ipad is definitely falling behind in terms of specs, it is certainly due for a redesign, and the market is obviously ready to pay for it. it makes a lot of sense--much more than the iphone 5 in september. i think apple would be rather foolish for failing to release something soon.

but, i guess you never know. i can't go long without a tablet, so if apple doesn't produce something, i might just try an android!
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i just put mine on ebay also. lol
 
matttye said:
Worst case scenario would be that you can't buy an iPad for what you sold it for and lose a bit of money.
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True, though the chances are minimized if you sell smart and buy smart.

I think it stifles innovation when customers are willing to blindly buy a product without seeing what updates it will bring.
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You misunderstand; the "early adopters" for lack of a better term would presumably still evaluate the upgrade and whether it's worth it. Of course they'll be more inclined to buy, but they're also facing less inertia and a lower cost delta. This is a matter of risk-taking / gambling that the upgrade will be worthwhile and being willing to try it and return it if bad rather than "blindly buying a product".


Apple can be complacent and people will still blindly buy the next product.
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Again with the "blindly". Not real understanding that others may be motivated by different things, eh? I guess that happens, a lot of people who are immersed in technology lose sight of how important the overall user experience is vs. isolated features.
 
TWO2SEVEN said:
Seems to be a 2:3 advantage for MS here....

Only joking btw. I still us a PC at work and there are two HP laptops in my home. I have just come to prefer Apple products. :)
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:)

elistan said:
Is it your thought that Apple won't release an updated iPad anytime soon because the current one is "good enough" and continues to sell well?
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No. Not at all. As much as I like Apple products- I don't like all of them. I haven't been wholly impressed with iPad thus far- but I would try a (hypothetical) iPad 3 if they brought something new to the table.

I just like to wait for a confirmation before I start talking this deep into it.

jb1280 said:
You are correct that one must take care when assessing the validity of rumors. The problem about your thread's entire premise is that the constellation of current rumors are about as credible as you are going to get. At this point, a handful of what you read concerning the next generation of iPad is going to be based in fact.
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As soon as I get confirmation from Apple I'll be excited. Apple and only Apple. I will not be excited by tech blogs. I refuse.
 
you see, i don't mind waiting a year or so for this kind of thing with apple, because (in my opinion) they actually work hard on thier next-generation ipad (and other products) that fits the growing and advancing consumer market of tablets that we customers want. based on the rumours i have heard and seen, i will definatly be getting an ipad 3 for sure when that comes out.

my verdict: apple stands out here
 
matttye said:
Worst case scenario would be that you can't buy an iPad for what you sold it for and lose a bit of money.



I think it stifles innovation when customers are willing to blindly buy a product without seeing what updates it will bring.

Have you noticed that Android phones are evolving faster than the iPhone? Clearly Apple wins in terms of software for a lot of people, but nobody can deny that Android phones in terms of hardware are evolving faster. Android phones have 4G support, NFC, quad core processors (very soon), hd screens, etc.

Android phone manufacturers are lagging behind Apple so they're working hard to try to entice customers, hence the level of evolution seen. However, because of how popular iPhones are, Apple can be complacent and people will still blindly buy the next product. If less people did this, we could be seeing iPhones which are also rapidly adopting the fresh technology that so many people have asked for countless times and been disappointed with when Apple hasn't listened.

Android may have a greater market share than iOS but no single Android device even comes close, hence why Apple can be complacent.

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If there's something you don't like about the iPad 2 then fine, upgrading is a no brainer. :)
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I do not think it stifles innovation at all.

Apple only gets on the newer technologies when they're not going to ruin the user experience. LTE? Yeah, it's fast and everything, but it also eats your battery down to 0% in about 4 hours. Android already has battery life issues--just because LTE is now available doesn't mean you have to jump all over it. If you want an example, look at the Thunderbolt.

To me it seems like Apple can usually do something faster with a dual core than an Android device can do the same task with a quad core. Or they can make 512 MB of RAM seem like 1 GB of RAM. They make the OS so efficient that the hardware doesn't need to be bleeding edge all the time. And if that's the case, then who cares what's inside the box?
 
Mr. Retrofire said:
Why do you read MR?
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Well actually- I don't really read MR currently, I just hang out in the Forums. I like rumors with just a little bit of truth to it. I'm not interested in fanciful the stories. It's like tabloids. Who reads those? Balance is all I'm looking for. Just a little.

Tech blogs are using the word "Apple" and "iPad" for page views- you need to know that.

snow blind said:
Its apex of what... ability to shatter into thousands of pieces?
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What he means is that Apple has reached an evolutionary plateau. We couldn't possibly imagine a successor to the iPad. How thin can it get? What more can you do to it? Is it worthwhile? I'm not all that excited about a better screen or LTE. Yawn. I was hoping that Apple would shake things up.

What about a completely new device?
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motoleo said:
Finally. Reason. Image
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Where's the reason? There is no "Android" hardware company, it's a number of manufacturers scrambling for market share within a segment of the marketplace, so it's no real surprise that they leapfrog each other with several new releases a year. That was true of those companies even before Android. There was no rhyme or reason to handset release schedules, so you bought one only to see a new one released barely 4 months into your 2-year contract. Many of these companies have already started advocating the Apple model of limited releases spread over a longer interval. Their margins are shaved paper-thin when they have that many releases in a year competing with numerous other new releases.

Apple is not about complacency, it's about long-term viability. They aren't competing with Android tablets as much as providing a valuable product. They also need each quarter to be strong so they have to stagger product introductions accordingly.

Apple's iPad market is not just new buyers but the 55+ million satisfied iPad owners, especially the 15+ million iPad 1 hold-outs who are due for a refresh or want to pass theirs down to a kid/other family member and pick up the latest model.

I'm not a betting man but I wouldn't hesitate to wager that we'll see a new iPad introduction this quarter.
 
poloponies said:
Where's the reason? There is no "Android" hardware company, it's a number of manufacturers scrambling for market share within a segment of the marketplace, so it's no real surprise that they leapfrog each other with several new releases a year. That was true of those companies even before Android. There was no rhyme or reason to handset release schedules, so you bought one only to see a new one released barely 4 months into your 2-year contract. Many of these companies have already started advocating the Apple model of limited releases spread over a longer interval. Their margins are shaved paper-thin when they have that many releases in a year competing with numerous other new releases.

Apple is not about complacency, it's about long-term viability. They aren't competing with Android tablets as much as providing a valuable product. They also need each quarter to be strong so they have to stagger product introductions accordingly.

Apple's iPad market is not just new buyers but the 55+ million satisfied iPad owners, especially the 15+ million iPad 1 hold-outs who are due for a refresh or want to pass theirs down to a kid/other family member and pick up the latest model.

I'm not a betting man but I wouldn't hesitate to wager that we'll see a new iPad introduction this quarter.
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OK. This a reasonable response. I agree. For me to wager that a new iPad introduction will happen in the next few days- I'm on the fence. Balance.

However, if there is no iPad in March- I would like my username referenced in some of these articles.
 
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