Given how few households likely have 6E routers, I don’t think this merits much outrage. I certainly don’t notice issues, and I think most issues are based off of the speed you buy from your provider, not your router quality.
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No iPhone 14 or iPhone 14 Pro Model Supports Latest Wi-Fi 6E Standard
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Holding on to my Mini until they get rid of Lightning and add 6E
Transfer rates for large 48mp images and video since the old lightning interface is still USB2.0 based.
Connections for future AR/VR platforms.
Interference and smoother connections in dense city apartments/condos.
Basically modern longevity. Lacking that and USBC, this is a stopgap short life cycle phone.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see a spring refresh with the wifi chip and USBC swapped in.
6E is ready for those living in urban wifi dense areas. If you’re in suburbia or rural you won’t notice a difference. AC is basically instant on a fiber line anyway.
Fair point - local radio spectrum congestion. I have quite a few WiFi networks visible locally (a fairly urban area) and it's not a problem here, but I can imagine something like a collection of hi-rise apartment buildings could get pretty congested.
The one possibility that occurred to me in the meantime would be something to do with streaming 4k60 video off the camera, since Apple is leaning into the "shoot theater-quality movies using an iPhone" angle again (eh, they were showing film crews and such). The common complaint I've heard from this is that it takes so long to get that video off the iPhone via Lightning. A bit of googling suggests that uncompressed 30fps 1080 12-bit 4:4:4 video comes in around 2.2 Gbps - quadruple that for 4k and then double for 60fps and it's a bit under 18 Gbps. The roughly 6 Gbps upper limit for WiFi 6 and 6E wouldn't be able to handle this, but I see speeds of up to 40 Gbps suggested for WiFi 7, which might be able to handle this.
(Come to think of it, 40 Gbps... of course it'd lose a lot due to various real-world factors, but that's starting to sound like the contents of a 256 GB iPhone could be transferred in a minute or so - that could be a reasonable point to drop the wired connection entirely - though I'd want them to keep something like the iPad's "Smart Connector" row-of-contact-spots-in-front-of-a-magnet approach, for a last-ditch wired connection.)
basically no one has 6E yet, most people dont have 6 yet, AC is barely the majority by now, so by the time 6E is common this phone will be pretty old 🤷♂️
Even most folks that have 6E arent really using it to the full potential. It'd be nice to have, but it's a pretty niche need right now
Even most folks that have 6E arent really using it to the full potential. It'd be nice to have, but it's a pretty niche need right now
What's the need for a phone currently? I get 343 down and 136 up on an iPhone 13.
If I remember correctly, the wide bandwidth of WiFi 6E is only really useful if you're running something over 480 megabits/second download speed. And very few phones support it even now (the only one I know of is the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G). I know that if you build your own computer, you can get adapter cards that support WiFi 6E.
Well, at least Apple didn’t raise the price. I guess that’s a really small victory for us?
Another crap lineup. No reason to buy the new phone. The 12 pro max is basically the same phone
None of the new iPhone 14 models support the latest Wi-Fi 6E standard and instead remain limited to Wi-Fi 6, according to Apple's tech specs.
Rumors previously suggested that the new iPhones would support Wi-Fi 6E, but Apple's website confirms that the iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Plus, iPhone 14 Pro, and iPhone 14 Pro Max are limited to Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) with 2x2 MIMO.
Wi-Fi 6E offers the features and capabilities of Wi-Fi 6, including higher performance, lower latency, and faster data rates, extended into the 6 GHz band. The additional spectrum provides a lot more airspace beyond existing 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wi-Fi, resulting in increased bandwidth and less interference for devices that support Wi-Fi 6E.
Wi-Fi 6 has been supported since the iPhone 11.
Article Link: No iPhone 14 or iPhone 14 Pro Model Supports Latest Wi-Fi 6E Standard
I agree, don’t like any of them, except the default “Black” one which I’ll have to go with. The Plus has the light blue which I would’ve like for the Pro Max but of course it’s not made in that.
No, it’s not expected til 2024 at the earliest, so I don’t understand why people are saying it’s “around the corner”. It’s possible that it wouldn’t be available for the 16 so Apple could‘ve at the very least gave us 6E NOW. What nonsense. What are you all excited about Wi-Fi 7 for? They’ll probably won’t give you that either.
What are you talking about? I’ve had 6E for 2 years + now. Tell me how much time has to pass before you no longer consider it “niche?” “Most folks aren’t using it to it’s full potential?” Freaking give it me in a product already such as this one and I’ll use it to it’s full potential, ok? You make products where you flat out to refuse to include it guess what no one can use it to it’s ”full potential“
The new iPad Pro better damn well have 6E, this much I do know.
I am on Gigabit internet. My iPhone 12 which has Wifi6 does max 600 Mbps under ideal conditions. Where as Google Pixel 6 Pro does full Gigabit on speeds. Let's me do everything faster. Especially when I have 6E gear, why should I be bottlenecked by a top end phone?
6E offers little benefit for most users, especially if you don’t have gigabit or are in a room other than your router. The additional spectrum is worse at penetrating walls than 5GHz.
Even if you are on gigabit and in the same room, what are you doing on a phone where you’ll notice a real world difference between, say, 800Mbps and 1Gbps? I have gigabit on WiFi 6 (wired backhaul between two units using MoCA) and an iPhone 13 Pro and every website loads instantly, every 4K video buffers instantly, and almost every app downloads faster than it installs.
What more do you people want?? 6E is marginal at best if you have the right conditions and the best everything.
Even if you are on gigabit and in the same room, what are you doing on a phone where you’ll notice a real world difference between, say, 800Mbps and 1Gbps? I have gigabit on WiFi 6 (wired backhaul between two units using MoCA) and an iPhone 13 Pro and every website loads instantly, every 4K video buffers instantly, and almost every app downloads faster than it installs.
What more do you people want?? 6E is marginal at best if you have the right conditions and the best everything.