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No iPhone 5...Iphone 4S more likey?

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aibo82

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Hi

I keep reading all the rumours on iphone 5 and I don't see it happening this year and id be very shocked if it did!

I think more likely we'll get the iPhone 4S with a few spec bumps same design and a white version so:

8mp cam
A5 Chip for speed
And the new iOS notifications

Thats about it!

What do you guys think?
 
I could care less about new hardware, I love my iPhone 4. I just want iOS5!
 
aibo82 said:
Hi

I keep reading all the rumours on iphone 5 and I don't see it happening this year and id be very shocked if it did!

I think more likely we'll get the iPhone 4S with a few spec bumps same design and a white version so:

8mp cam
A5 Chip for speed
And the new iOS notifications

Thats about it!

What do you guys think?
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Themes, lockscreen widgets and a new back material, perhaps Liquid Metal.
 
If it's the iPhone 4Gs that will see I think it's all about the 4G... I think that's the only new thing we'll see in the new iphone 4Gs
 
aibo82 said:
Hi

I keep reading all the rumours on iphone 5 and I don't see it happening this year and id be very shocked if it did!

I think more likely we'll get the iPhone 4S with a few spec bumps same design and a white version so:

8mp cam
A5 Chip for speed
And the new iOS notifications

Thats about it!

What do you guys think?
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If an iPhone is released this year with ANY change whatsoever, it will be the iPhone 5, or 5th version of the iPhone. Period. If you don't believe me, then think real hard as to how we got to iPhone 4 to begin with. Why can we even call this an iPhone 4? Because the other three iPhones were 1,2, and 3 regardless of whether they got a minor upgrade (OG to 3G) or a major upgrade (3G to 3GS).
 
It might be called iPhone 5, but the specs will be that of an iPhone 4S. You can bank on it.

The iPad 2 has foreshadowed much of what to expect.

At most there will be a larger display, on top of A5 chip, 8mp cam, 1gb of ram and maybe just maybe 1080p video and FaceTime HD.
 
kre62 said:
If an iPhone is released this year with ANY change whatsoever, it will be the iPhone 5, or 5th version of the iPhone. Period. If you don't believe me, then think real hard as to how we got to iPhone 4 to begin with. Why can we even call this an iPhone 4? Because the other three iPhones were 1,2, and 3 regardless of whether they got a minor upgrade (OG to 3G) or a major upgrade (3G to 3GS).
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So whats not saying it would follow suit? and that's apples plan now they really going to let the design of iphone 4 only last a year:

Iphone 3G to 3GS same design
Iphone 4 to 4GS same design

I don't think there is any reason for them to change the whole manufacturing process even apple themselves has said THIS IS THE BIGGEST LEAP FORWARD!

There isnt much to compete with the iphone 4 design ether so I think it will be just spec bumps following the macbook approach as there using apples famous aluminium and glass already with the iphone 4!
 
aibo82 said:
So whats not saying it would follow suit? and that's apples plan now they really going to let the design of iphone 4 only last a year:

Iphone 3G to 3GS same design
Iphone 4 to 4GS same design

I don't think there is any reason for them to change the whole manufacturing process even apple themselves has said THIS IS THE BIGGEST LEAP FORWARD!

There isnt much to compete with the iphone 4 design ether so I think it will be just spec bumps following the macbook approach as there using apples famous aluminium and glass already with the iphone 4!
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I laugh heartily at anyone who says "just" spec bumps. Hilarious really. I bet you think the iPad2 is an incremental upgrade as well?

Design means nothing. Specs/processing means EVERYTHING. Example: Lets say your laptop was slow, and you wanted it tuned up. If I took the case off, and replaced it with a more stylish version, would you consider that an upgraded computer?

The chips don't know that they have a more stylish case. They will perform exactly the same.

The iPhone4 has the same internal components as the 3GS. It was a minor bump, as far as capability is concerned. Yes the new screen is nice, but if I hook up my LCD to different computers, it desnt increase performance.

So, like I said, sure it might be called the 4GS. But if it gets the new A5, it will be a massive upgrade, more so then 3GS to 4. The new dual core proc will be relevent for many years, jsut like the 3GS has been. People who bought the 4 bought tech that was EOL, with every last drop squeezed out of it.

But no matter what happens, it will be the 5th version of the iPhone.
 
iPhone 5/4gs will a slight improvement on the iPhone 4 which was a slight improvement on the 3Gs which was a slight improvement on the 3G which was a slight improvement on the original iPhone.
After going from a 3G to a 4, I'm sticking to a 2 year cycle. I really noticed an improvement.
 
afd said:
iPhone 5/4gs will a slight improvement on the iPhone 4 which was a slight improvement on the 3Gs which was a slight improvement on the 3G which was a slight improvement on the original iPhone.
After going from a 3G to a 4, I'm sticking to a 2 year cycle. I really noticed an improvement.
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Nope, 3G to 3GS was a huge jump. Youd be better off getting on the opposite cycle, eg 3GS->5->7

The 3G was the last dying breath of the original processor, the 4 is the last effort of the 3GS processor. So you keep buying tech that is maxed out. Better to get the tech as early as possible and have it be relevent longer.
 
afd said:
iPhone 5/4gs will a slight improvement on the iPhone 4 which was a slight improvement on the 3Gs which was a slight improvement on the 3G which was a slight improvement on the original iPhone.
After going from a 3G to a 4, I'm sticking to a 2 year cycle. I really noticed an improvement.
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Very normal, every other product is the way to go. I had a 3G, 4 and eventually the 6? I didn't buy an iPad, but will likely buy an iPad2 (but thinking about holding out for Retina).

Every other product. :d
 
rovex said:
It might be called iPhone 5, but the specs will be that of an iPhone 4S. You can bank on it.

The iPad 2 has foreshadowed much of what to expect.

At most there will be a larger display, on top of A5 chip, 8mp cam, 1gb of ram and maybe just maybe 1080p video and FaceTime HD.
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This. If Apple sticks to the tick tock method of product cycle (spec bump then redesign) for the iPhone, the iPhone 5 -- and will almost assuredly be called iPhone 5 since they called the new iPad "iPad 2" and now "the new iPad" -- it will be as Rovex predicts.

The same external housing, a non-vaporware white version, FaceTime HD, 1080p recording on the rear camera (and likely a jump to 8MP to match Android phones), and an A5 chip. 1GB of RAM and a 64GB version are also possibilities but not as likely. It really depends on how resource-intensive iOS 5 is. If they can get away with sticking with 32GB storage and 512MB of RAM, they will. Also the same or slightly better battery life I'd imagine.

Now the iPhone 6 will probably see a redesign, hopefully with a 4" screen. It'll also have given developers enough time to not get too angry over having to redo their apps again.
 
rovex said:
It might be called iPhone 5, but the specs will be that of an iPhone 4S. You can bank on it.

The iPad 2 has foreshadowed much of what to expect.

At most there will be a larger display, on top of A5 chip, 8mp cam, 1gb of ram and maybe just maybe 1080p video and FaceTime HD.
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So if they improve the CPU, GPU, memory controller, radio chipset, both cameras, display and the OS; you would consider it to be a 'minor' upgrade that wouldn't justify a full version jump? Really, what does it take to impress you?
 
EvilEvil said:
Ditto. I'm not upgrading until LTE is standard everywhere.
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Same. By that point, I'll also decide whether I want to stay with AT&T or possibly switch over to Verizon.

(Of course if apple surprises us and comes out with something new this summer, I'd definitely upgrade.)
 
err404 said:
So if they improve the CPU, GPU, memory controller, radio chipset, both cameras, display and the OS; you would consider it to be a 'minor' upgrade that wouldn't justify a full version jump? Really, what does it take to impress you?
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If the physical appearance of the phone doesn't change, I don't think they'll change the number. However, if Apple is feeling the heat from the competition, they'll call it the iPhone 5 and hope everyone thinks it's a complete new phone.
 
Sedrick said:
... and hope everyone thinks it's a complete new phone.
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That's my point. You described updating nearly every component in the phone; including the case to accommodate the larger screen. Or are you suggesting that potential cosmetic similarities relegate it to a less substantive upgrade?
 
err404 said:
That's my point. You described updating nearly every component in the phone; including the case to accommodate the larger screen. Or are you suggesting that potential cosmetic similarities relegate it to a less substantive upgrade?
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I go by the table rule: If you can't tell the difference between the two across a table, then it's an upgrade. :)
 
They'll change the number, that's why the went with the number naming convention in the first place, to make it easy. iPhone 3G is considered iPhone 2, while 3GS would be iPhone 3. Next iPhone will be iPhone 5, not 4S or anything stupid like that.
 
For me, it comes down to what the phone can do for me.

***I don't play games on my phone***

Given the above, any spec bump really isn't going to buy me a whole lot. I call, I text, I use fairly simple apps (but I use them a lot). I never find myself saying 'Gee I wish this would go faster'. I'm perfectly content w/ my phone.

My only issue was the network, recently resolved to my utmost satisfaction.
 
CylonGlitch said:
Very normal, every other product is the way to go. I had a 3G, 4 and eventually the 6? I didn't buy an iPad, but will likely buy an iPad2 (but thinking about holding out for Retina).

Every other product. :d
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Yes every other product is the way to go. But its worse if you do 2,4,6 like youre suggesting. 1,3,5 is better because you get the newest tech, and that tech lasts through two cycles.
 
kre62 said:
Nope, 3G to 3GS was a huge jump. Youd be better off getting on the opposite cycle, eg 3GS->5->7

The 3G was the last dying breath of the original processor, the 4 is the last effort of the 3GS processor. So you keep buying tech that is maxed out. Better to get the tech as early as possible and have it be relevent longer.
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Are you sure they're the same processor? The iPhone 4 has the A4 inside (cpu/gpu/mc etc.) I thought the actual CPU in the iPhone 4 was a higher clocked Cortex ARM A8 CPU?

From the 2G->3G the CPU stayed exactly the same, but I'm pretty sure the 4 has a higher clocked CPU than the 3GS.
 
impulse462 said:
Are you sure they're the same processor? The iPhone 4 has the A4 inside (cpu/gpu/mc etc.) I thought the actual CPU in the iPhone 4 was a higher clocked Cortex ARM A8 CPU?

From the 2G->3G the CPU stayed exactly the same, but I'm pretty sure the 4 has a higher clocked CPU than the 3GS.
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While packaged differently, the CPU in the iPhone 3Gs and 4 are essential the same tech. They are both Cortex ARM 8 CPU running at 600mhz and 800mhz repetitively. While the 4 is a bit faster (especially in the GPU), it is also driving more pixels. As a result there is little difference in performance. Take a look at an intensive game like Infinity Blade. It runs essential the same on the two devices when running in their respective resolutions.
The extra RAM in the iPhone 4 counts for more of any performance difference then the CPU/GPU. However the lower RAM on the 3Gs is aided by the fact that the iPad and iPod share the 256 spec, so few devs take advantage of it the 512 on the 4.
The iPad 2 on the other hand has a massively improved CPU/GPU combo. The efficiencies gained by the dual ARM9 cores and the GPU will run rings around the A4.
There is a larger absolute and relative improvement in speed between the A4 and A5 then there was between any prior iPhone generation.
 
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Hopefully its an iPhone 4GS That has

White/Black
16 32 64 GB
A5
Retina
Fixed Antenna like Verizon
Better Front Camera for FaceTime
Stronger Glass
iOS 5
Maybe Upgraded RAM


Same Price and Apple can Expect me to be waiting in line all night
 
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