No iPhone on the Airplane for you!

Did I miss the memo where flight attendants were legislators? PIC makes more sense but God knows he/she has better things to do...

Just show them the part in their information booklet or magazine where it shows that cell phones are approved with airplane modes. Then make a show about changing it to said mode.
 
StealthRider said:
Did I miss the memo where flight attendants were legislators?

Just show them the part in their information booklet or magazine where it shows that cell phones are approved with airplane modes. Then make a show about changing it to said mode.
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Um, this is the part where the rest of the passengers get angry with the obnoxious guy who insists on delaying takeoff because he wants to listen to music on his phone...
 
PCMacUser said:
Um, this is the part where the rest of the passengers get angry with the obnoxious guy who insists on delaying takeoff because he wants to listen to music on his phone...
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Oh, I assumed the problem was that the flight attendant wouldn't let him use the iPhone at approved altitude. Sorry, my mistake. Every douchebag who tries to use a phone from door-closed to canned air should have to sit on the wing.
 
StealthRider said:
Did I miss the memo where flight attendants were legislators? PIC makes more sense but God knows he/she has better things to do...

Just show them the part in their information booklet or magazine where it shows that cell phones are approved with airplane modes. Then make a show about changing it to said mode.
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You can tell that to the armed marshals who escort you off of the plane, and the police who meet you at the door.

It wouldn't hurt to point it out, sure, but ultimately, you have to do whatever the flight attendants say, and arguing will only get you removed from the flight.
 
I KNEW this would be an issue. I have used Treos and PPC's on flights for years, but recently I was told by a United Flight Attendant it is their policy that all phones be OFF and stowed. Flight Mode isn't a viable option. They don't trust you. It must be OFF. Period.

I have a feeling there will be so many iPhones for road warriors that will be used in-flight, the airlines better re-visit their own policies. That's why Flight Mode exists. I'm using my iPod/Video iPod on the flight, not phone mode. Perfectly acceptable.

Airlines have recently been telling people to turn their laptop's WIFI to the off position b/c they realize there would me mutiny if they said NO LAPTOP USE ON AIRPLANES. I suspect with the popularity of iPhones, they will have to say turn it to Airplane Mode on your iPhone. Let's hope so...
 
EricNau said:
You can tell that to the armed marshals who escort you off of the plane, and the police who meet you at the door.

It wouldn't hurt to point it out, sure, but ultimately, you have to do whatever the flight attendants say, and arguing will only get you removed from the flight.
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Oh, I completely agree. However, be rational, and you'll find most people will be rational as well. The people that get escorted off are the ones that have fits and start throwing things, not the ones that calmly disagree.

Now, the Delta flight attendant that I once heard ask a passenger to turn off a phone (before door-closed) because "It's a security risk" needs a little extra instruction in the ways of non-stupidity.
 
StealthRider said:
Oh, I assumed the problem was that the flight attendant wouldn't let him use the iPhone at approved altitude. Sorry, my mistake. Every douchebag who tries to use a phone from door-closed to canned air should have to sit on the wing.
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That's quite possibly the scenario, but either way, no one likes to see a passenger arguing with a flight attendant... or causing some kind of scene.
 
Not to be the idiot here, but...

If you cant make cell calls from a phone when you are on a plane (signal is weak if it even exists) how did all those dudes on 9/11 make their calls to their families?

I think the airlines are just retards. Let us use our phones!!!
 
StealthRider said:
Did I miss the memo where flight attendants were legislators? PIC makes more sense but God knows he/she has better things to do...

Just show them the part in their information booklet or magazine where it shows that cell phones are approved with airplane modes. Then make a show about changing it to said mode.
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I doesn't matter. The PIC owns the aircraft as a whole, and the lead FA owns the cabin. Their word is law, and any federal magistrate will back them 100%. As one who sits in commercial aircraft for about 150 flights a year, and a part-time pilot, I can guarantee this is pretty much inviolable. You will not win that argument. I figure being righteously indignant for a couple of hours is the worst that can happen by complying, but losing several days/weeks "fighting the good fight" over an iPod can never be recovered.

When iPods were first on the scene, and then ANC headsets for the general public, it took a while, and some polite education--in advance--but they learned eventually. It's all part of being the vanguard, eh? ;)
 
JohnNotBeatle said:
When iPods were first on the scene, and then ANC headsets for the general public, it took a while, and some polite eduction--in advance--but they learned eventually. It's al part of being the vanguard, eh? ;)
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It's the polite education that I'm advocating...certainly not violent overthrow :p
 
I'm sure you just got told to do that by an unknowing attendant who was probably having a bad day and really could've cared less if it had an airplane safety switch on it or not. Way too many of them on American and United in my opinion.

My advise is to "CALMLY" say it has a airplane mode and it's turned on. May I still continue to use it. If they tell you no again, don't push it because you'll get some un-preferential treatment either before landing or after or both.
 
bbplayer5 said:
Not to be the idiot here, but...

If you cant make cell calls from a phone when you are on a plane (signal is weak if it even exists) how did all those dudes on 9/11 make their calls to their families?

I think the airlines are just retards. Let us use our phones!!!
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Aeroplanes have special phones onboard. They might be satellite or something. On most long haul airlines, every seat has its own phone. You swipe your credit card in it, and then you can make the call.
 
bbplayer5 said:
Not to be the idiot here, but...

If you cant make cell calls from a phone when you are on a plane (signal is weak if it even exists) how did all those dudes on 9/11 make their calls to their families?

I think the airlines are just retards. Let us use our phones!!!
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In-flight (seat back) phones. That, and if the aircraft were low enough (and maybe grabbing an analog signal), that would be enough.

That's why the FCC (not the FAA) banned in-flight use. The old analog phones were whacking the cell systems, tower-hopping and playing havoc with the system.
 
bbplayer5 said:
If you cant make cell calls from a phone when you are on a plane (signal is weak if it even exists) how did all those dudes on 9/11 make their calls to their families?

I think the airlines are just retards. Let us use our phones!!!
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Bear in mind that most commercial aircraft fly at about 30,000 to 35,000 feet, far out of range of most cell signals. The 9/11 aircraft were much lower; from my understanding, at about 10,000 feet, which would put it easily in range of cell towers without obstructions.

And, do you really want to be on a plane with 300 other rude passengers all squawking away on their phones just to hear their own voices?

Idiotic Phone Talkers said:
Hey! Where are you? Can you hear me now?
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She probably likes typing with two thumbs on a hardware keyboard with a substandard UI. Don't let her get you down.
 
The 9/11 report says they were made on personal cell phones though, not airplane phones.

So do they work, or do they not? I would think they do, but a lot of people say they dont work at all.
 
PCMacUser said:
Aeroplanes have special phones onboard. They might be satellite or something. On most long haul airlines, every seat has its own phone. You swipe your credit card in it, and then you can make the call.
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They used their cellphones, not the airplane phones. Some of them were in the lavatories calling.

EDIT: I do believe they will work, maybe not at 35,000 feet but they will at lower altitudes. They don't want you using them, not because they want to screw you out of money, but because it's an electronic device and according to FCC, it may interfere with other electronic devices. It's not a good think if the altimeter shows you're at 10,000 feet when you're actually at 1,000.
 
PCMacUser said:
Yeah but you can't expect them to know everything about gadgets like this. It's far easier for her to say 'you can't use it', than to pull out a manual and start figuring it out.
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But you can expect her to listen to reason and not be an idiot about it, right? Or have we descended that far into customer service hell that a person wont even listen to the customer even if he's right? Apple should have its own Airline! :apple: Air!
 
personally I don't want people to be able to use their cell phones on a flight.

Flying is stressful/annoying/uncomfortable enough in coach without 250-300 annoying ass people b*(^)%$g about significant others,family members, the shoes they bought, etc.

Can you imagine the general noise level that would build while you're trying to relax on a 6-12 hour flight? Especially when you get the moron right next to you talking on theirs.

Ugh, I don't even like to think about it.

Personally though, I don't see whats so crazy about just advising to use airplane mode the same way you advise to turn phones off. It's no more difficult for the user and they trust people to turn them off, so what's the change for a different button to hit?
 
Mac-Addict said:
Tell them to go f**k themselves, If its legal to use on a plane in Airplane mode then use it. If anyone approaches you say sorry put it in your pocket when their backs turned whip it back out.
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Just because airplane mode is legal, doesnt mean all carriers allow it. Laws are in place for everyones safety, so you probably should do what they say. plus you'll probably look like an idiot when the flight attendants tell you to put something away, and all the passengers around you see you pull it out as soon as the FA leaves. Oh, and lay off the flight attendants, my mother is one.
 
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