Some people need notebooks for a reason; and not just because they want to spend more money for a less powerful machine
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No IPS? Really?
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Some people need notebooks for a reason; and not just because they want to spend more money for a less powerful machine
This.
I didn't really expect IPS, but it woulda been nice. And with the bump in the supposed battery life to 8-9 hrs from 7, they could presumably have put it in without killing battery life.
If Apple can put a 21 incher in a $1200 machine, they can put a 15 incher in a $2500 machine. If apple can put a 10 incher in a $500 machine, they can put a 13 incher in a $1200 machine. Cost really isn't that extreme for these panels; they've been around, it's not like they are OLED.
And all that aside, god forbid they offer it as a BTO and let the consumer take it up the rear since we all know Apple isn't happy with less than like 2000% profit margin.
I'm sure cost is also the reason there is no 640 GB HDD. That extra $10 for Apple, ouch.
The only problem with these suggestions is that the MBP is PORTABLE and the iMac ISN'T. Just a small oversight though.
Oh yea ? Where's my air in MacBook Air ?
Filmmakers don't use a notebook to produce movies. Pro photographers never develop their photographs on a notebook for final publishing. Serious professionals have external displays. Either you've never come anywhere near a professional photographer ever in your life or you're a blatantly lying hypocrite. I've been working for one of the biggest magazines in the world for the past 2 years. I roam around in the best of best photojournalism studios around the world. I've never come across a single professional who ever whined to me about not having an IPS display hindering their work. You are living in your own dream world.
I'm pretty disappointed with Apple notebook displays. Fortunately, I don't use my 13" Aluminum Macbook (not pro) with the internal screen much - I use it for iPhone development and have it attached to an old Samsung SyncMaster with is a 1600x1200 IPS display.
My circa-2000 IBM Thinkpad has a 15" 1600x1200 IPS display which is (sorry, Steve) gorgeous. It's a higher pixel density than the new "high resolution" Macbook Pro model. (Being this old, it's a 4:3 aspect ratio.) The stingy vertical resolution on wide Macbook displays has always bothered me.
My circa-2000 IBM Thinkpad has a 15" 1600x1200 IPS display which is (sorry, Steve) gorgeous. It's a higher pixel density than the new "high resolution" Macbook Pro model. (Being this old, it's a 4:3 aspect ratio.) The stingy vertical resolution on wide Macbook displays has always bothered me.
Don't mean to start arguing with you. Congrats on your success in life and the industry. I don't mean to demean you or say you are wrong, but this is technology. We should expect it move forward.
I am a freelance photog located in Montreal. I DO work in the industry. I HAVE worked with a lot of other professional photographs and designers. I DO edit and do colour critical work for print. Please do not call me a hypocrite after reading a single post of mine.
I know what you mean by saying this is a LAPTOP. I use a MBP as can be seen in my sig. I use it for my work in the field and when on the move. I am not whining about the lack of IPS. I am just stating that with the advancement of technology, it's to be expected.
For all colour critical work, I use an external IPS monitor. However, there are certainly times when I wish I had it on my MBP. Wouldn't you appreciate the ability to do all your work (pre to post) on a single device while on the road?
Again, I don't want to start a war with you. I don't doubt your knowledge, but IPS has it's uses and would certainly be appreciated in the Macbook Pros. Even if it's only BTO.
Regards,
Sim
EDIT: Oh and a lot of filmmakers/videographers use notebooks. A lot of reporters work on the road almost 100% of the time. I guess you are right that they don't rely on notebooks for post, but still, it would be appreciated.
I am a freelance photog located in Montreal. I DO work in the industry. I HAVE worked with a lot of other professional photographs and designers. I DO edit and do colour critical work for print. Please do not call me a hypocrite after reading a single post of mine.
I know what you mean by saying this is a LAPTOP. I use a MBP as can be seen in my sig. I use it for my work in the field and when on the move. I am not whining about the lack of IPS. I am just stating that with the advancement of technology, it's to be expected.
For all colour critical work, I use an external IPS monitor. However, there are certainly times when I wish I had it on my MBP. Wouldn't you appreciate the ability to do all your work (pre to post) on a single device while on the road?
Again, I don't want to start a war with you. I don't doubt your knowledge, but IPS has it's uses and would certainly be appreciated in the Macbook Pros. Even if it's only BTO.
Regards,
Sim
EDIT: Oh and a lot of filmmakers/videographers use notebooks. A lot of reporters work on the road almost 100% of the time. I guess you are right that they don't rely on notebooks for post, but still, it would be appreciated.
How can you be so sure the panels aren't IPS when nobody has one of these new machines yet? As far as I know the 24" LED cinema display is an IPS panel but they don't mention it at all... So just coz they don't say explicitly "these new machines have IPS panels" doesn't mean they don't (or that they do)... Nobody will know till they ship
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm happy Apple didn't put an IPS in. All I'm saying is its not a have - or - die feature for professionals like you said in your previous post.
I too mentioned a few posts back that it would have been good to have it as a BTO. Afterall, who doesn't like nice things ?
Because Apple marketing would JUMP on it if they were. It would be a big selling point for them.
The macbook pros do not have a 8 bit panel. Read professional review where they test the color accuracy of the display or look up the panel model. They are all TN (6 bit) panels.
But would they? If they don't jump on it for the LED cinema display, why would they jump on it for the MBPs?
Because it's a huge marketing point for the iPad, they would certainly highlight it on the MBP.
My point is, nobody whatsoever has reviewed these models yet - a 1680x1050 panel has never been offered in a MBP before, so whatever anyone knew about older models is totally irrelevant... how can you say with such certainty that it isn't IPS?
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5583
says HP 8740w has spillproof keyboard with drains, core i7 820 and a 30bit IPS display
says HP 8740w has spillproof keyboard with drains, core i7 820 and a 30bit IPS display
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5583
says HP 8740w has spillproof keyboard with drains, core i7 820 and a 30bit IPS display
thats more than likely 10 bit across the 3 colors. I believe 12 bit are the highest made. Of course, I did see a commercial from Sharp where they advertised 4 color displays.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5583
says HP 8740w has spillproof keyboard with drains, core i7 820 and a 30bit IPS display
*drools hopelessly*
Why is Apple incapable of offering that sort of hardware, even at an obscene price?
Agree, it's really weird...
I guess Steve has created a successful cult - a bunch of blind people
following and giving him money....
Exactly, i mean that's what Apple used to be about. Having the best gear for an outrageous price. I don't like paying the Apple tax and having a computer that's just barely on par with windows PCs (and yes, i will still buy a Mac sigh )
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5583
says HP 8740w has spillproof keyboard with drains, core i7 820 and a 30bit IPS display
An incredible machine. I have to talk to Adobe if there is any path
from my Mac version to a PC version of their Creative Suite...
I like OS X, but this laptop is everything I could ever dream about.
And they say Windows 7 doesn't s@ck that much....
What is reality? How do you know reality? The reality is Aristotle that you don't have one of these machines yet and no one does yet so who knows. So don't try to distinguish reality from fiction when no one has the knowledge yet. He is just presenting an idea, obviously your ignorance is to strong to see this.
Do photographers/designers/filmmakers want IPS? YES
Should MacBook PRO's have an IPS screen at this price point? YES
Should Macbook PRO's have much OTHER stuff at this price point? YES
Everyone and there mother can tell you that the MBP's should have i22's with OLED techonology with 5tb SSDs 64 gigs or ram but they don't. So for now we are stuck with TN sadly......
Has anyone even seen the displays? Is there a possibility that they are using higher quality TN panels? Not IPS to be sure, but perhaps there was a panel switch we havn't seen yet.
your entirely post is ignorant. I choose to be in touch with reality, not live in what ifs. I do agree though the macbook pro would be a lot nicer if it had an IPS display.