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No need to upgrade from 5 to 7
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If 50m WR is so much more than IP68 then it would include all Watches down to the Series 3 with at least IPx8? But nope, the Series 7 just had IP6x which means it’s dust resistance but water submersion isn’t certified/tested.
WR50 afaik means it’s okay for swimming up to 50m depth of water, but not for prolonged, constant submerge.
“Apple Watch Series 7, Apple Watch SE, and Apple Watch Series 3 have a water resistance rating of 50 meters under ISO standard 22810:2010. This means that they may be used for shallow-water activities like swimming in a pool or ocean. However, they should not be used for scuba diving, waterskiing, or other activities involving high-velocity water or submersion below shallow depth. Series 7 is also rated IP6x dust resistant.”
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As long as Apple keeps pumping out a new version every year, I will keep buying it, no matter how incremental of an upgrade everyone else thinks it is. The addition of a native keyboard and fast charging may seem incremental to some but to me, those were huge upgrades and changed how I use my watch. Can’t wait to see what the next model brings. Besides, I got to keep it fresh. From the leaks and rumors, to the anticipation, to the keynote, to the numerous website refreshing on the morning of launch, to the order placement and waiting for shipping, to the unboxing and set up, to the eventual usage. It’s anything but boring. To me, boring would be using the same thing over and over for a few years. That’s just me though.
Maybe there way of saying if the water goes in it's not our problem...
I swim a lot with mine and I never had issue, but I saw report of people who killed their watch like that and Apple didn't cover it. For that reason I got AC+.
With AC+ to be honest I don't really care if it ever dies. But my S5 SS was still ok after 2 years of swimming with it (and shower, with soap ofcourse...)
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT205000 My guess is they are saying we are not responsible if anything happens. It's WR, but we don't warranty it. Probably too many variables out of their control (like if someone drop it).
It seems like you really like the keyboard. Can I ask how you find it (any issues or things that you particularly like/dislike about it)?
I use my watch pretty heavily (leaving the phone at home when I can) and one of the main shortcomings of watch only is having to use Siri to dictate text replies. It works ok usually, but every now & then, it misunderstands a word & I have to cancel/ start over. using the scribble is very slow. I think the keyboard will be a massive improvement, but aside from that, I'm happy with my Series 5. I'm almost down to 80% battery life. When I get there I'll replace the battery & hope that the series 8 has cellular band 71 for T Mobile, but I am looking forward to getting a watch that has the keyboard.
Same as you, I found dictation to not be completely reliable. If one word was screwed up, especially at the end of a relatively long text and it changes the context of the text, the whole thing had to be recreated lol. It was somewhat mitigated by allowing a correction to the text but that’s just takes time. The scribble was way too slow like you said as well. There are times when I need to get a quick text out and not able speak out loud. That’s where the keyboard shines for me.
Only thing I would change is I think there’s enough space to expand the keyboard vertically and make it a bit larger. Other than that it’s been great. Even the autocorrect on it and quick path works very well.
I have this app on my Series 0, 3 and 4 & find it useful.....some people say that Apple copied their keyboard......just my .02 cents.
Ps. I have nothing to do with this developer just like apps that are well written and useful..
Honestly, I just don't think we're going to see enormous year to year jumps anymore. We're at the point where the Apple Watch is a mature product. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be exciting - just that I don't believe it's going to happen. I'll be happy to be wrong though!
I have this app on my Series 0, 3 and 4 & find it useful.....some people say that Apple copied their keyboard......just my .02 cents.
Ps. I have nothing to do with this developer just like apps that are well written and useful..
Wow! How did I not know about this app. Looks amazing for my needs. Thank you for sharing it.
That may be true for you. Others find the benefits of the alway-on display and larger displays worth the upgrade. Isn't it nice that everybody can make their own choice?
Agreed … It’s great that we can all choose, I choose to upgrade mine every year, however small, there is always a difference which is good enough for me. Fitness and staying healthy are a big part of my life and I choose to sink money into an AW each year to help me achieve this as well as all the other features that an AW offers.
Yes I could do many of those things with on older version but why should I ?
Some choose to keep a car for 20 years until it falls apart, some change their car more frequently, some drive a ford some drive a Ferrari …. They all basically do the same thing as one another …. Much the same as an AW 4 or 7 …. It’s just that one does it slightly differently to the other.
Life is all about choices
I just upgrade every other gen so I went OG, 3, 5, 7. I wasn't going to upgrade my 5 to the 7 but the trade in price was good for my 5 and I had some remaining credit from an iPhone trade in. Also took advantage of the $100 rebate cellular deal with T-mobile so I figured it was worth the upgrade for me. I also like the Midnight color more than Space Grey, the larger screen is also a nice change. Much like my 3 to 5. I go for the Nike model every gen so I'm pretty happy with my upgrade all around. Not a crazy change, just more of slight evolution from my 5.
Its not that those aren't great features. Any hardware upgrade is worth it to somebody.
I was thinking more about the core functionality of the device. Apple have made the Apple Watch track more stats, faster and look nicer since the OG model but the overall functionality of the device hasn't really changed and (this might just be me) Watch OS is starting to get a bit tired and in need of a rebuild.
For example: Holding the screen should be required to change watchface so that the left swipe and right swipe gestures can be opened up for further functionality (1x1 widgets?). The app menu is a bit of a mess. The floral pattern isn't very user friendly as you cannot see the names of apps and the A-Z menu looks like a bad Android launcher. The likelihood of the user using several apps at once is so low that the 'dock' screen of one press of the 'home' button is completely wasted.
There is plenty of room for improvement but the lack of competition is stopping Apple doing anything about it.
That would drive me totally mad. I have several watch faces set up that I switch between constantly. As in I often swipe through several in a minute, to check all the info I have distributed among several faces. And what do you mean by widgets, aren't most complications already widgets? If you want 1x1 widgets, try the X-Large face with complications. You get one large complication per face.
It’s more so that 1x1 iOS widgets just work across Watch OS without any porting required. You’re like me and have several watch faces with multiple bits of info because one doesn’t cut it (eg Siri face to the left). This should be replaced by the ability to just have a page of complications or thereabouts without displaying the time as a sub-screen to one side.
Well, the most complications you can currently fit on a single face is 8 on the Infograph face, and that's still not enough to see everything I want to see.
I do wish the placement and size of the time display were customizable, but I also know there is no way to fit all the info I want to check on a single watch screen -- if you did, the info would be too small to read! So some form of scrolling or swiping is necessary, and that should always be done by a simple swipe, not touch and hold to invoke.
For my use case, I feel similarly. My first AW was the Series 2, kept it for 3 years and upgraded to my current Series 5, which felt like a big change with larger screen + AOD.
I feel like with the watch, 3yrs upgrade cycle seems to work for me, so I will likely go with the Series 8 when it comes out later this fall.
I feel like with the watch, 3yrs upgrade cycle seems to work for me, so I will likely go with the Series 8 when it comes out later this fall.
But wouldn't it be better if you could swipe between pages of actual information instead of a bunch of watchfaces you had to make because the facility wasn't there? For example there are, what 5-6 complications for weather? Why not a weather widget showing all that info at once? Thats what left and right swipes would be for; you wouldn't need top change the watchface because the information would be elsewhere.
I think we might be arguing vocabulary. I don't care if it's called a watchface or widget, I just want to organize the info the way I want them, and be able to swipe or scroll through them without having to long press.
Exactly. My arguement is that you shoukdn't have to set up loads of watchfaces just for complication data and that WatchOS itself is getting a bit long in the tooth with lots of wasted interactions.
I wouldn't say there's a need to upgrade but a few data points.
- Battery life is better. On a 4 or 5, don't remember which it was, I had surgery (similar surgeries 2 years apart) and wound up wearing the watch for 1-1/2 days in both cases. The 7 had 25% vs 10% vs the 4/5. Not exactly the same use case but close enough.
- Workout's in the Apple app have been better optimized for battery life.
- My GPS and HR are more accurate. That might be a Watch OS fix but they are better on my watch than the older one's.
- Charging is faster, but, you also have to probably buy a new brick as it's USB-C. Thanks Apple for the BS about saving the environment while not including one in the packaging.
- The screen size actually does matter. I rarely make mistakes on the passcode when I have to enter it now.