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Well this is a sad rumor. I hope it isn't true!

What else could Apple market for the next iPhone, apart from just speed? I hope iOS 5 won't be a disappointment either, or else i'm jumping ship.

diversity antenna, biometrics, "smart" bezel, world phone, larger screen, 4G, OLED, more memory (flash), thunderbolt port, etc. (Not that most of these will happen, but these are all things that could be done and which would make the iPad 5 interesting).
 
I'm indifferent about this actually, doesn't seem like NFC would be widely used in Canada at the launch of the iPhone 5 anyways.

On the other hand, I really want an LED indicator on the iPhone 5.
 
iPad 2 smart covers

It was rumored that the iPad 2 would have NFC because there was an unknown sensor on the device, which turned out to be the magnetic sleep/wake sensor for the new smart covers. I don't think we'll see NFC in the iPhone 5 since all of this speculation is based primarily on misinformation about the features of the iPad 2, just like how the rumored SD card slot turned out to be the SIM card slot. So there's your answer. Smart covers, not NFC.
 
Ridiculous technology anyway, as if swiping a card is so difficult. The only good thing about this technology is from a scammers' point of view.
 
But Apple doesn't only sell in the US. NFC is used in Asia and Europe. In places like Japan, it's in regular phones as well as a range of the booming smartphones now...which run Android, by the way.
While I do understand this. In their home market, NFC is not very widespread, and I'm sure they will eventually work with retailers to make it so, but right now NFC isn't a selling point for me.
 
wished nfc would speed up deployment
would love to just wave-and-pay thru checkout
so old tech to whip out cash or credit card and signature with a stylus
 
Ridiculous technology anyway, as if swiping a card is so difficult. The only good thing about this technology is from a scammers' point of view.

Pretty much everything in this statement is off base. NFC offers so much more than swiping a card ever would be able to do.
 
NFC as credit card payment system is not catching on well in Europe. On the other hand NFC payment systems for transit etc. are doing great. It seems people want to keep credit cards separate from small / micro payment systems and in all honesty I don't blame them.

I think so too. I've seen it widely used in Asia for transit systems as well, and as prepaid cards for purchases at convenience stores and what not.
 
Ridiculous technology anyway, as if swiping a card is so difficult. The only good thing about this technology is from a scammers' point of view.
Do you realize how unsecured credit cards are? You hand it to a waitress at a restaurant and hope for the best. Skimming the magnetic strip is easy, as is the bare bones technique of simply copying your numbers down. ANY sort of NFC system involving encryption would be more secure.
 
It was rumored that the iPad 2 would have NFC because there was an unknown sensor on the device, which turned out to be the magnetic sleep/wake sensor for the new smart covers. I don't think we'll see NFC in the iPhone 5 since all of this speculation is based primarily on misinformation about the features of the iPad 2, just like how the rumored SD card slot turned out to be the SIM card slot. So there's your answer. Smart covers, not NFC.

No. Smart covers make sense for the iPad, a book like device. The iPhone is a phone. They will not have smart covers.
 
So Google/Verifone is rolling out NFC terminals in San Francisco and New York City, over the next four months, and current RFID terminals can't accept NFC. They will probably test for like a year in just those two cities to give time for some adoption and adequate testing until they begin to roll out other NFC terminals (that of course is assuming that they even determine that it's a worthwhile expenditure to spend $10-$15 a phone to add an NFC chip in it, on top of replacing current RFID terminals with approximately $200 RFID/NFC terminals.) So now we are talking about probably over 1 year and 4 months before other cities outside of New York City and San Francisco. And probably much longer until it becomes widely available.

Saying all that, how exactly is this a dealbreaker for so many? Hell, I don't even remember the last time I saw someone swipe their RFID-enabled credit card at a terminal. Now I understand that some places in the world like Japan and Korea actually have decently-spread NFC, so if this is actually a mature technology in your country, I'm not talking to you. Me personally, I'll continue spending 5 seconds sliding my credit card threw a terminal and won't worry a bit.

Am I missing something? Can someone please educate me on the greatness of NFC?
 
So Google/Verifone is rolling out NFC terminals in San Francisco and New York City, over the next four months, and current RFID terminals can't accept NFC. They will probably test for like a year in just those two cities to give time for some adoption and adequate testing until they begin to roll out other NFC terminals (that of course is assuming that they even determine that it's a worthwhile expenditure to spend $10-$15 a phone to add an NFC chip in it, on top of replacing current RFID terminals with approximately $200 RFID/NFC terminals.) So now we are talking about probably over 1 year and 4 months before other cities outside of New York City and San Francisco. And probably much longer until it becomes widely available.

Saying all that, how exactly is this a dealbreaker for so many? Hell, I don't even remember the last time I saw someone swipe their RFID-enabled credit card at a terminal. Now I understand that some places in the world like Japan and Korea actually have decently-spread NFC, so if this is actually a mature technology in your country, I'm not talking to you. Me personally, I'll continue spending 5 seconds sliding my credit card threw a terminal and won't worry a bit.

Am I missing something? Can someone please educate me on the greatness of NFC?

The complacency of people kills me. People become complacent with what they have and don't seach for ways to make it better or do it more efficiently. People say we don't need and don't want to even try A because B works just fine, even though B is many times more efficient.

And the worst thing is the chicken and the egg paradox. "It's not wide spread so I don't need it." If you don't ask for it the makers won't see a demand and it will NOT BECOME WIDESPREAD...

I personally was praying for NFC in the next iphone. It was one of my main reasons to upgrade.

I do live in Japan, and I only use cash around once or twice a week. Everything else is credit card or NFC cards. If I could have them both on my phone, have an application on my phone that AUTOMATICALLY tracks my spending so I can more easily manage my finaces with even fewer missed transactions, and have more retailers want to install more terminals because so many people around the world have that system just waiting to be used, what's not to want.

Just an aside, here in Japan, many of the NFC cards were made to work only locally at first, but recently cards have been reworked to work accross the country and across diffrent companies. Different standards have... standardized. Imagine you have a freely reprogrammable chip in your phone that can use different apps to change function. Just stick it in there and you're good...

Please people, instead of just being complacent, try to think of more efficient ways of doing things...

(about security, I cringe when taking out my card, always hoping that no one can see my numbers, even in Japan...)
 
So Google/Verifone is rolling out NFC terminals in San Francisco and New York City, over the next four months, and current RFID terminals can't accept NFC. They will probably test for like a year in just those two cities to give time for some adoption and adequate testing until they begin to roll out other NFC terminals (that of course is assuming that they even determine that it's a worthwhile expenditure to spend $10-$15 a phone to add an NFC chip in it, on top of replacing current RFID terminals with approximately $200 RFID/NFC terminals.) So now we are talking about probably over 1 year and 4 months before other cities outside of New York City and San Francisco. And probably much longer until it becomes widely available.

Saying all that, how exactly is this a dealbreaker for so many? Hell, I don't even remember the last time I saw someone swipe their RFID-enabled credit card at a terminal. Now I understand that some places in the world like Japan and Korea actually have decently-spread NFC, so if this is actually a mature technology in your country, I'm not talking to you. Me personally, I'll continue spending 5 seconds sliding my credit card threw a terminal and won't worry a bit.

Am I missing something? Can someone please educate me on the greatness of NFC?
Those costs are pennies on the dollar if it just slightly reduced credit card fraud. The savings would translate into lower interest rates and lower merchant CC fees, which means cheaper goods.
 
I think one possibility--if Apple approves of doing this at least for sale in Japan, South Korea and Hong Kong, where NFC systems are common--is a small adapter that plugs into the 30-pin dock connector on the bottom of the iPhone 5 (and adding very little to the profile of the iPhone 5) that becomes your NFC transceiver, and an app from the App Store works directly with this special adapter.

That way, Apple doesn't need to deal with the complexity of adding NFC hardware directly to the iPhone itself, since the NFC hardware will be mostly on the adapter.
 
Epic fail

NFC was the only reason why I was going to be upgrading to the iPhone 5 (and the only thing missing from the iPhone 4), dang it, now I have to wait until 2012 to upgrade.

boo Apple, the next iPhone is going to be an epic fail.

Nothing new there. Every iPhone so far (and both iPads) have been described in advance as epic fails. It's kind of a rite of passage.
 
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