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Nobody knew a damn thing about this years iPhone until it was actually presented by Apple. The same will be true of next years model...
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Agreed
Nobody knew a damn thing about this years iPhone until it was actually presented by Apple. The same will be true of next years model...
I'm speaking from experience. It's too bad for Samsung/Android. I'm not saying I'll never give it another go but I was really let down by the lack of support on the Android device I used and it seemed like any effort to actually *fix* an ongoing issue made 3 things worse in the process.
Regardless of what version of Android or timeframe considered, Android and the manufactures of the devices still operate the same: Rush to market with either a half-assed hardware or software design crammed with as much *new* tech as possible (even if they don't quite know how to best utilize it and DEFINATELY haven't tested it for longevity or quality), support it for about 2 weeks, then move on to the next device. Meanwhile, us consumers are locked into a 2-year contract with said device watching commercials about the "next big thing" constantly reminding us that our device is "old hat" and that the manufacturer doesn't give a damn.
I've personally experienced this with Samsung but a quick browse around different forums shows that other maunfacturers do it too.
Looking at Apple (the iPhone) from the outside, it's pretty obvious to see that they actually care about their customer, they don't have (literally) 10 different devices out at once running potentially 10 different versions of the OS that they must try to maintain... They have strategically positioned themselves with greater control over all aspects of operations whereas Android manufacturers have to contend with carriers and carrier-relations, bloatware, etc. (as a side note: Most blame THIS for the fallout of the samsung fascinate).
No, Apple has ONE device that, as a consumer, you KNOW is going to be the ONLY option for at least a year (half of your contract), there's ONE operating system and EVERYONE has the same one, as a result you KNOW they are going to SUPPORT their ONE device and won't leave you stranded.
Sure it may not have all the latest "cutting edge" features jam packed into it but you know everything that's in it will WORK and if it doesn't, they will FIX IT.
Let me make this analogy: Would you buy a new car that goes 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, has a 1000 watt stock sound system, gets 35MPG? Now let's say this car is a Chevy. After 1.5 years (halfway through your 3-year loan), the stereo flakes in and out, the MPG isn't quite as promised, it breaks down every so often, and now Chevy has made a car that goes 0-60 in 2.5 seconds, gets 40 MPG, etc, etc. and really no longer cares about the car you bought as that's the "nature of the beast".
Or would you rather buy the "Ford" That maybe only goes 0-60 in 5 seconds, has the same 1000 watt premium sound system, gets 35MPG but doesn't have many issues, is one of two cars produced by the manufacturer, you know they won't come out with a new one for another 3 years, bla bla bla.
I guess you could call that "personal preference" but it only makes sense. If you *REQUIRE* cutting edge tech, top-of-the-line this and that, you will ALWAYS be chasing the latest android device and may never be completely satisfied. If you want something that simply works, is supported, etc. I think the choice is clear.
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One of my problems with Apple is all they got is one device, the 4S. Not enough for me but I am glad you are happy with so little.
One of my problems with Apple is all they got is one device, the 4S. Not enough for me but I am glad you are happy with so little.
how many devices do you use at one time? I only carry one phone on me at a time usually...
Options are nice however, but only when they're equal. With Android there are so many options, you have to weed through all of the crap phones to figure out the top contenders and then roll the dice as to weather or not the mfgr is going to carry it on or screw it up with crappy updates (that break more than they fix) while moving on to newer devices.
One of my problems with Apple is all they got is one device, the 4S. Not enough for me but I am glad you are happy with so little.
Thing is, i have many more things to worry about than a cellphone. But if being a smartphone collector works for you then more power to you
Thing is, i have many more things to worry about than a cellphone. But if being a smartphone collector works for you then more power to you
Sorry, I just can't get used the the iPhone's tiny screen!
Sorry, I just can't get used the the iPhone's tiny screen!
Ok, how is that supposed to affect those who can get used to it fine
I mean i just bought an iPhone 4 and have played with the 4 inch - 4.3 inch big boys from android. First thing i noticed, wow it is so easy to handle compared to the awkward wide phones i had.
I am sorry I do not share your sentiment. I prefer a 3.5 inch screen that works for 7 hours than a 4.3 inch that runs for barely 4. What good a big screen is to me when it is dead? Besides screen size mattered to me when i didn't have a tablet. With the galaxy tab now i don't see the issue. Even a 5 inch phone won't do for me so what's the big deal.
Forget the next IPhone.. it might be new hardware.. but the same 4 year old software. Static rows of icons with no motion whatsoever. Get a Windows Phone instead..
On your IPhone browse to
http://m.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/demo/index.html
to see a demo
On your IPhone browse to
http://m.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/demo/index.html
to see a demo
All WP7 needs for me is....
1. Nokia announces lumia 800 (or the fabled 900) for Canada (please?)
2. MS opens some media API to allow a developer to make a video player like AVplayer/Goodplayer/Oplayer on iOS which allows for any video to be played without having to transcode first, and can be copied using zune file sharing.
I have used android this year for almost 10 months, have come back to iPhone 4 and tried WP7 and if there is anything that would entice me to switch from iOS, it is WP7.
From my perspective, no matter what Style, Size, or Features are in the next iPhone, I'll find it interesting not surprising. Oh sure I do expect Apple to have the requisite gimmick to boast about. But other than that, modern smartphones have stabilized in form factor, general size & shape even though Apples obsessed with their "copying" claim.
What matters to me is a larger display of 4" minimum, and a well debugged iPhone that "just works" as they claim. That in itself would be quite an accomplishment. One they've failed to make with iPhone 4 & 4S.
Both Antennagate & Batterygate have killed the fun of buying a new iPhone for me. I _Really_ want a good iPhone. Perhaps Apple will get the next one right.
In the meantime my buggy iPhones have made me appreciate my SGS II more than ever. As a serious Apple supporter it's a sad day when I cannot honestly say an iPhone is better.
What matters to me is a larger display of 4" minimum, and a well debugged iPhone that "just works" as they claim. That in itself would be quite an accomplishment. One they've failed to make with iPhone 4 & 4S.
Both Antennagate & Batterygate have killed the fun of buying a new iPhone for me. I _Really_ want a good iPhone. Perhaps Apple will get the next one right.
In the meantime my buggy iPhones have made me appreciate my SGS II more than ever. As a serious Apple supporter it's a sad day when I cannot honestly say an iPhone is better.
Well, no phone is "better" to be honest. One will always find something cater more to their needs than the other. That is the only fact.
1. They're going to change the shape and make it thinner.
2. They're not going to make it bigger than 3.5". No reason to, and it would throw all the touch calibration off.
3. I think it will come out in 2013, and have LTE by that point. If one comes out sooner, it won't have LTE, because of the power draw of those chipsets, which means that Verizon will throw a fit and not carry the phone, and that wouldn't be great. OTOH, if they did an incremental, maybe there will be a Pentaband HSPA+ and CDMA chip sooner, so it can go on T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T. Given how the iPhone is a small part of Verizon's portfolio, I don't think they will accept another one without LTE. If it comes down to it, I predict they would simply sit out a round to push their 4G LTE Android devices.
2. They're not going to make it bigger than 3.5". No reason to, and it would throw all the touch calibration off.
3. I think it will come out in 2013, and have LTE by that point. If one comes out sooner, it won't have LTE, because of the power draw of those chipsets, which means that Verizon will throw a fit and not carry the phone, and that wouldn't be great. OTOH, if they did an incremental, maybe there will be a Pentaband HSPA+ and CDMA chip sooner, so it can go on T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T. Given how the iPhone is a small part of Verizon's portfolio, I don't think they will accept another one without LTE. If it comes down to it, I predict they would simply sit out a round to push their 4G LTE Android devices.
You are quite right
I just couldn't help myself. It was fun (yet wrong) to say it's better.
There is no perfect phone for everyone, since we all have different needs, values, preferences & such. In fact that's why I've owned so many different phones and have always had two lines to use.
What me, make a decision? Ha.. Ha.. Ha..
Ok, how is that supposed to affect those who can get used to it fine
I mean i just bought an iPhone 4 and have played with the 4 inch - 4.3 inch big boys from android. First thing i noticed, wow it is so easy to handle compared to the awkward wide phones i had.
I am sorry I do not share your sentiment. I prefer a 3.5 inch screen that works for 7 hours than a 4.3 inch that runs for barely 4. What good a big screen is to me when it is dead? Besides screen size mattered to me when i didn't have a tablet. With the galaxy tab now i don't see the issue. Even a 5 inch phone won't do for me so what's the big deal.
You are showing you ignorance again as the SG2 will run all day without running out of battery.
There is nothing wrong with you being happy with the tiny screen, I am just sayin . . . . .
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If the next iPhone has LTE, Apple will have no choice except to change the phones form factor. Unless they come up with a better battery, the iPhone 5 has got to be bigger just to hold the battery or it will not make it to lunch!
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Touch calibration? Throw it off?
The iPhone's normalish sized screen is much better than the oversized screen forced down your throat if you get a GSII, battery life aside.
If the next iPhone has LTE, Apple will have no choice except to change the phones form factor. Unless they come up with a better battery, the iPhone 5 has got to be bigger just to hold the battery or it will not make it to lunch!
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Touch calibration? Throw it off?
Possible true, as all the LTE devices are carring 1500-1800mah batteries, the current iPhone only has a ~1400mah, and for Apple's battery life requirements, it would be longer. However, in a few years, just like has happened with 3G, I think that LTE chips will be just as efficient, and Apple will go for them. Verizon is going to have a fit if Apple doesn't do LTE on the next one though... it may be a temporary end to the Verizon iPhone. I really don't think Verizon cares that much about the iPhone, or Apple about Verizon.... AT&T still is the iPhone carrier by a huge margin.
All current iPhone apps are made to run on a 3.5" screen, and all the UI elements and such are proportionally designed for the relative size of fingers. OTOH, I've seen people using iPhone apps on an iPad to control stuff, so it might not be that bad after all...
The size of the iPhone screen is hardly normal compared to most of the new phones on the market.
If Apple does NOT change the form factor of their phone and include a larger screen they will slip even farther from their once greatness.
The iPhone 4S is a good phone, I use one but Apple has a huge problem, if they stick to the same old format for the iPhone 5, they will loose even more users to larger screened phones. What is worst if they make a iPhone with a larger screen they will alienate users like you that think the tiny screen is just fine!
I think they need to introduce 2 new phones. One for the traditional Apple users and a larger up to date unit that can compete with todays new phones.
We started off with the 3.5" iPhone vs. 3.7" DROID and 3.2" G1. Now we have super-sized phones for us super-sized Americans, our super-sized gas-guzzling cars, our super-sized food, and our super-sized everything else.
I REALLY hope that Apple sticks to what is right, and sticks with the 3.5". Although frankly, I don't really care, as I can just keep the 4S for a while. Considering they are still selling 3GS'es on contract, the 4S isn't going out of style any time soon.
I don't think that Apple will succumb to the temptation to shove massive phones down it's users throats by hummer-izing it's phones like HTC and Samsung have.
The worst is going to be when Otter Box makes a case for Galaxy Note!!! They do have one for the Gnex though, which is enough of an abomination of over-sizing!!!
All sold by Verizon, the last 2 manufactured by Motorola (horrible device maker in my opinion).
Thunderbolt was a fail due to HTC and Verizon trying to have the corporate control thing with the handset.
The only way i would agree is if i could use one for a week and see for myself. Beyond that i had mentioned pics and vids. Video is always jerky on android devices, i have no idea why this cannot seem to be fixed. Purely if i'm spending $100 more then the cost of an iphone it better take videos just as nice or better.
Moto is top dog from Android devices. They are rock solid, have decent battery life (excellent for Android), and top-notch RF. The DROID series especially has just dominated the Android scene continuously since the OG DROID, then DROID 2 and DROID 2 GLOBAL, and then DROID BIONIC. DROID 4 will do the same with 4G LTE, a 4" qHD screen, and a background-lit 5-row keyboard.
Quite possibly every Droid I owned then must have been the crap of the lot. I've been through numerous Android phones, including all of the "Droid" series and those always seemed to be extremely buggy.
Even the Razr's (not Android - gen 1, 2, and 3) were crap phones in my opinion, always crashing and rebooting. But maybe that was just my experience with Motorola...always getting a crap handset from them.