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All WP7 needs for me is....

Nokia announces lumia 800 (or the fabled 900) for Canada (please?)

I have used android this year for almost 10 months, have come back to iPhone 4 and tried WP7 and if there is anything that would entice me to switch from iOS, it is WP7.

Agreed. I spent two years with a Droid (OG), and my wife has a Droid3. Barring something unforeseen, I'll never go back. The last six months of the Droid were probably the worst I've ever experienced with a mobile device... so despite Android improvements I'm not ready to give Google another shot.

I actually really, REALLY like the 4S and iOS, but would be all ears if Nokia brought the Lumia 8/900 to the US with CDMA technology. The 800 in black is just plain sexy to see and to hold, and I've been really impressed with WP7 Mango. Super easy to use and totally different than iOS and Android.
 
The size of the iPhone screen is hardly normal compared to most of the new phones on the market.

If Apple does NOT change the form factor of their phone and include a larger screen they will slip even farther from their once greatness.

The iPhone 4S is a good phone, I use one but Apple has a huge problem, if they stick to the same old format for the iPhone 5, they will loose even more users to larger screened phones. What is worst if they make a iPhone with a larger screen they will alienate users like you that think the tiny screen is just fine!

I think they need to introduce 2 new phones. One for the traditional Apple users and a larger up to date unit that can compete with todays new phones.

they will still sell the 4S as the "cheaper" phone. I agree the next model needs a 4" screen and iOS needs a serious revamp.
 
Quite possibly every Droid I owned then must have been the crap of the lot. I've been through numerous Android phones, including all of the "Droid" series and those always seemed to be extremely buggy.

Even the Razr's (not Android - gen 1, 2, and 3) were crap phones in my opinion, always crashing and rebooting. But maybe that was just my experience with Motorola...always getting a crap handset from them.

The DROIDs I've seen are the only rock solid Android phones that I've seen... all the others have weird problems. Not saying they are all perfect, but in general, Moto is the best..
 
The great thing about surprises is that you don't know what they'll be until they happen :) These are exciting times, and technology is moving fast...!
 
Wake Up

I'm speaking from experience. It's too bad for Samsung/Android. I'm not saying I'll never give it another go but I was really let down by the lack of support on the Android device I used and it seemed like any effort to actually *fix* an ongoing issue made 3 things worse in the process.

Regardless of what version of Android or timeframe considered, Android and the manufactures of the devices still operate the same: Rush to market with either a half-assed hardware or software design crammed with as much *new* tech as possible (even if they don't quite know how to best utilize it and DEFINATELY haven't tested it for longevity or quality), support it for about 2 weeks, then move on to the next device. Meanwhile, us consumers are locked into a 2-year contract with said device watching commercials about the "next big thing" constantly reminding us that our device is "old hat" and that the manufacturer doesn't give a damn.

I've personally experienced this with Samsung but a quick browse around different forums shows that other maunfacturers do it too.

Looking at Apple (the iPhone) from the outside, it's pretty obvious to see that they actually care about their customer, they don't have (literally) 10 different devices out at once running potentially 10 different versions of the OS that they must try to maintain... They have strategically positioned themselves with greater control over all aspects of operations whereas Android manufacturers have to contend with carriers and carrier-relations, bloatware, etc. (as a side note: Most blame THIS for the fallout of the samsung fascinate).

No, Apple has ONE device that, as a consumer, you KNOW is going to be the ONLY option for at least a year (half of your contract), there's ONE operating system and EVERYONE has the same one, as a result you KNOW they are going to SUPPORT their ONE device and won't leave you stranded.

Sure it may not have all the latest "cutting edge" features jam packed into it but you know everything that's in it will WORK and if it doesn't, they will FIX IT.

Let me make this analogy: Would you buy a new car that goes 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, has a 1000 watt stock sound system, gets 35MPG? Now let's say this car is a Chevy. After 1.5 years (halfway through your 3-year loan), the stereo flakes in and out, the MPG isn't quite as promised, it breaks down every so often, and now Chevy has made a car that goes 0-60 in 2.5 seconds, gets 40 MPG, etc, etc. and really no longer cares about the car you bought as that's the "nature of the beast".

Or would you rather buy the "Ford" That maybe only goes 0-60 in 5 seconds, has the same 1000 watt premium sound system, gets 35MPG but doesn't have many issues, is one of two cars produced by the manufacturer, you know they won't come out with a new one for another 3 years, bla bla bla.

I guess you could call that "personal preference" but it only makes sense. If you *REQUIRE* cutting edge tech, top-of-the-line this and that, you will ALWAYS be chasing the latest android device and may never be completely satisfied. If you want something that simply works, is supported, etc. I think the choice is clear.

/rant

Iphone has so many issues too. Plus wifi, batt, software problem, it crashes frequently. Updates consumes much memory. Interface is REDUNDANT, ipod touch old to latest gen. Orig ipad to ipad 2 and the iphone all the same UI. it has become so boring.

Lets go with your car analogy.

You have bought a car last year then you really like how it performs and stuff, then the following year that car company released a "NEW" Car, same old design but with a few newly added accesories for a much higher price, will you still buy it even if the newly added accesories and car improvements has been long available to another car brand?

There is really nothing new with the ios5 and siri, all of what they have has been already long enjoyed by android users.

The after sale phase
Ever wonder why apple has great customer care agents and now selling apple insurance plans? It is because their consumers experience many issues with their devices they already an expert because they encounter so much device trouble.

Android is doesnt encounter much of these problems snd that is because of the devices specs.

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I made that switch!

Iphone 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to Droid Razr and Galaxy Note
Ipad 1 to 2
TOSHIBA to MacBook to Macbook Pro
Sony digital Mp3 player to iPod Classic 1 to iPod Nano to latest iPod Classic
 
The car and phone analogies never work. One is a machine whose primary objective is the drive comfortably, look good and haul goods. Other is a machine running a software which takes care of communications, applications, media etc. Sure iPhone is boring for those who spend more time staring at it than using the software, but then they can go stare at some android phones.
 
if the galaxy nexus is the "TRUE android experience" than what were all the billions of phones before it?

honestly, the OP sounds way too focused on tech specs. my samsung s2 has some tech specs better than my iphone 4s (and vice versa) but it hasn't been the tech specs that made me prefer one phone over the other AT all.

it all comes down to software. fancy high numbered specs on my samsung s2 does not help me in any way since it currently only runs android 2.3.x which can't even utilize the dual core CPU for the system UI level at all. i have to wait till april 2012 for an official ICS upgrade or hope that a non-buggy custom ROM comes along.

right now im using the latest MIUI custom rom build and it STILL freezes up while browsing android market and randomly when i set it to USB storage mode. my very first android phone was the hugely disappointing htc hero several years ago and frankly im surprised at how little android has come along since then. beef up the specs all you want, but it hasn't changed the overall disappointing experience of using android.
 
Iphone has so many issues too. Plus wifi, batt, software problem, it crashes frequently. Updates consumes much memory. Interface is REDUNDANT, ipod touch old to latest gen. Orig ipad to ipad 2 and the iphone all the same UI. it has become so boring.

Lets go with your car analogy.

You have bought a car last year then you really like how it performs and stuff, then the following year that car company released a "NEW" Car, same old design but with a few newly added accesories for a much higher price, will you still buy it even if the newly added accesories and car improvements has been long available to another car brand?

There is really nothing new with the ios5 and siri, all of what they have has been already long enjoyed by android users.

The after sale phase
Ever wonder why apple has great customer care agents and now selling apple insurance plans? It is because their consumers experience many issues with their devices they already an expert because they encounter so much device trouble.

Android is doesnt encounter much of these problems snd that is because of the devices specs.

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I made that switch!

Iphone 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to Droid Razr and Galaxy Note
Ipad 1 to 2
TOSHIBA to MacBook to Macbook Pro
Sony digital Mp3 player to iPod Classic 1 to iPod Nano to latest iPod Classic

it's OK man, different things for different people at different times I guess.

My iPhone 4S has yet to crash, have battery problems, etc. I've had it for about a month and a half now and I'm sold. I love it. Android offered a lot of other things but to me it was at the expense of basic necessary functionalities like phone useage and text/pic messaging. If I could get those two things to consistantly work on my Android phone I would maybe have been saying something different (however I hated the music interface and the "take a screenshot every time you press the sleep/wake button" thing)... but it didn't and I made the switch. Never thought I'd do it based on my love for tinkering with software and the fact that I work for a "PC" (as in "mac vs. PC") company... (think large company... global). But I did. I am at the point in my life where I don't necessarily need to screw with my main handset. I've still got my Galaxy S... to be honest, I took the opportunity last weekend to root it and flash the leaked 2.3 version onto it. I played with it quite a bit and it seems MUCH improved but that was in a 5-10 minute "play-session" where I didn't really *do* anything important on it.

Either way, the debate will rage on forever. No stopping it. Maybe one day you'll come back to your iPhone legacy should your life/needs require something different.
 
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