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That's because it IS fraud. Apple doesn't want to pay it's share of taxes and never will because nobody cares to hold them accountable. Worse yet, this thread WILL have fanboys being apologetic about it and defending Apple....

Think about that; cheering on a corporation worth billions that evades taxes.

When you assume that these comments are from shareholders, it all makes sense. Why wouldn't shareholders want Apple to cheat and steal, they benefit financially.
 
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It's called transfer pricing and it has been going on since at least the 1990s, which shows you whose payroll the politicians are on.
 
All former presidents get speaking engagements, as thank yous from lobbyists. Nothing new there.
Some hide it better than others.

One does not have to be a socialist to see that the American political system does not serve the people......


Not really much I would disagree with in your response.
 
Maybe as a private citizen Tim doesn't like the way mainstream republicans
compare him and other gays to pedophile s or maybe he resents the suggestion by mainstream republicans that he is sick, a monster, is mental ill, wants to convert straight men and boys to be gay and a danger to society.
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Taxed at just over 10% would cover NASA's budget for a year...
whatever the reason...apple company shouldn't get involved in politics (IMO).
 
Maybe as a private citizen Tim doesn't like the way mainstream republicans
compare him and other gays to pedophile s or maybe he resents the suggestion by mainstream republicans that he is sick, a monster, is mental ill, wants to convert straight men and boys to be gay and a danger to society.
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Name one "mainstream" Republican that has ever said such about any LGBT individual, with source please. Thanks
 
So Apple held the fund raiser or was it Tim Cool holding one as a private citizen?
Tim Cook utilized Apple resources to put on the fundraiser, and if you dug a little, I'm willing to bet Apple capital was used as well.
 
Arrangements such as the "double Irish with Dutch sandwich" essentially reduce profit in one location by increasing costs in that location through payments made to another.
If you look at the transaction structures necessary to deliver the target tax rates, the question is the extent to which they are genuinely commercial transactions that reflect the actual commercial reality or whether they exist solely to deliver the desired tax benefits. This debate is really as much about ethics as it is about the legality of the arrangements that result in a lower effective tax rates.
 
Name one "mainstream" Republican that has ever said such about any LGBT individual, with source please. Thanks



http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56be42a2e4b08ffac12544f6
POLITICS
GOP Lawmaker Compares Gays To Pedophiles To Defend Discrimination

A West Virginia lawmaker argued that defending LGBT rights would open the door to protections for pedophiles.

At a legislative hearing Friday, Republican Del. Tom Fast argued against an amendment to a bill that would ban discrimination against same-sex couples. The non-discrimination amendment (which ultimately failed) was added to a bill that would let Uber operate in the state.

“Once homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior is elevated to a protected status, there is nothing to stop bigamy, pedophilia or any other sexual practice from receiving the same protection,” Fast said.
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Tim Cook utilized Apple resources to put on the fundraiser, and if you dug a little, I'm willing to bet Apple capital was used as well.

please feel free to dig deeper and back up your claim with fact, unless you are just a typical right winger who spouts lies and makes baseless claims they can back up.

So go ahead no prove you are not a liar....
 
This is about tax fraud- not selling pills on an infomercial. If there was true tax fraud going on, you bet the government would be after apple. No one wants to pay more taxes then they are legally obligated. No one.
Wanna bet? Headline today all over the news is how Facebook is in the hole for billions in taxes, yet continues to punt behind loophole after loophole. Were this any private citizen, the IRS would be seizing their assets and tossing them in jail after 30k. The Fed is afraid to crack down on Facebook for the same reason they're afraid to crack down on Apple: both are economic juggernauts that drive the market globally, and the fragile economy can't withstand any more turmoil right now going into the November elections.
 
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There are multiple issues here and we would do well not to conflate them.

First, as to Apple's conduct, their obligation is to adhere to the tax laws that apply to them -- nothing more, nothing less. No one pays more taxes than they owe out of a sense of charity. In fact, if Apple were to do so they would violate other legal obligations to their shareholders.

Second, to the extent U.S./European tax law permits Apple to get away with an unusually good deal or that it incentivizes Apple to keep money in a jurisdiction with a disproportionately small connection to its operations, then the laws must be reformed. Powerful forces try to confuse this issue because numerous large companies take advantage of the same "loopholes" on which Apple relies.

I wonder if the fact these companies can "donate" their way to crafting tax rules how they want them. How convenient.
 
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Jesus H. These people are clueless. The entity that didn’t earn it is the government. WTF do you think pays for the police, ambulances, roads, schools etc. etc?
Wow. What it means is that Apple and their employees get full benefit from the use of public services without paying anywhere near their share. Get your head out of your butt man.

Apple's employees do pay for those services: through income and sales tax. Any tax levied on a corporation is simply paid by the consumer. If Apple was forced to pay their "fair share", do you think they would simply eat the cost of their lost profits?
 
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56be42a2e4b08ffac12544f6
POLITICS
GOP Lawmaker Compares Gays To Pedophiles To Defend Discrimination

A West Virginia lawmaker argued that defending LGBT rights would open the door to protections for pedophiles.

At a legislative hearing Friday, Republican Del. Tom Fast argued against an amendment to a bill that would ban discrimination against same-sex couples. The non-discrimination amendment (which ultimately failed) was added to a bill that would let Uber operate in the state.

“Once homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior is elevated to a protected status, there is nothing to stop bigamy, pedophilia or any other sexual practice from receiving the same protection,” Fast said.
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please feel free to dig deeper and back up your claim with fact, unless you are just a typical right winger who spouts lies and makes baseless claims they can back up.

So go ahead no prove you are not a liar....

Awww I'm a Bernie Bro, but thanks for playing, Kreskin. And I doubt the small amount of AAPL stock I hold would grant me access to their petty cash ledger.

And one yo yo from the West Virginia legislature no one outside of huffpo has ever heard of isn't "mainstream," Leroy
 
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56be42a2e4b08ffac12544f6
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“Once homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior is elevated to a protected status, there is nothing to stop bigamy, pedophilia or any other sexual practice from receiving the same protection,” Fast said.
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please feel free to dig deeper and back up your claim with fact, unless you are just a typical right winger who spouts lies and makes baseless claims they can back up.

So go ahead no prove you are not a liar....


Just like the typical left wingers......
 
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Awww I'm a Bernie Bro, but thanks for playing, Kreskin. And I doubt the small amount of AAPL stock I hold would grant me access to their petty cash ledger.

And one yo yo from the West Virginia legislature no one outside of huffpo has ever heard of isn't "mainstream," Leroy

Liars gonna lie, don't worry you don't have any credibility anyways.

Another republican, Derrick Wilburn the vice chair of the Colorado Rwpublican party.
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Just like the typical left wingers......

Yeah typical left winger who pointed out facts to oblivious republicans proving them wrong.
 
So I don't see any actual numbers verifying the actual rate of 35% was paid in your post....
I can't tell if you are kidding. Do you not believe that the US corporate tax rate is 35%? Or are you not willing to review the 10Q to verify what I said?
 
This thread really needs some perspective!

1. The US government is hardly the one to be complaining here. Apple pays the 35% tax rate on all income from the Americas. The US government just wants a share of taxes on other foreign income that they aren't currently entitled to tax. They are free to change the laws to tax this income.

2. Apple pays vastly more than their competitors. Effective tax rates: Apple 26%, Alphabet 17%, Samsung 16%.
Ummm.. That's the corporate tax rate in the U.S. Is this number really hard to verify?

Apple doesn't separate out taxes by region that I can find, but from their latest 10Q.

The Company’s effective tax rates during the third quarter of 2016 and 2015 differ from the statutory federal income tax rate of 35% due primarily to certain undistributed foreign earnings, a substantial portion of which was generated by subsidiaries organized in Ireland, for which no U.S. taxes are provided when such earnings are intended to be indefinitely reinvested outside the U.S.

All income from the Americas goes through the US and thus is taxed at 35%. Most other income is funneled through Ireland.

This is the problem that I have with that. If I was an American citizen, and I make money elsewhere...anywhere in the world, I would be taxed at the US rate for my WORLDWIDE income... it makes zero regard of where I made that money. After all, I took advantage of American education, economy, skill, land... in order to position myself to be able to make all that income.

Here is Apple.. a CALIFORNIAN corporation, born and bred in Silicon Valley California... run by Americans, with American educated hires...and they get to claim that all of their foreign income are earned in low tax rate Ireland and therefore should not be subject to American taxes.

You know who gets to pay for that bogus claim? You. Me. The people that still have to pay American taxes on dividends earned if we ever had shares in Irish companies.

The blame doesn't lay purely on Apple. The system is broken. But it is broken that a company like Apple can make such a bogus claim. And that is wrong. I think that's what this economist means.
 
And Apple provides jobs, products, and services that bolster a country's economy through taxes.

I wouldn't brag about the jobs - $12 part time jobs aren't adding much to the economy.
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Like the article says, this isn't just Apple, but also Google, Amazon, etc. This suggests that, among other things, the interests of shareholders are prioritized above all else except, hopefully, the law. It's hard to argue that they shouldn't be.

But I would personally prefer that they would all would pay their taxes in the USA. It feels like we, as a country, are getting gypped by those who can afford to make the biggest contributions.

TPP will make it worse - take a look at the investor portion - transnationals can override health, safety, and environmental laws based on potential lost profits.
 
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